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BG370z 05-23-2013 12:04 PM

Sam is looking at it now. I guess that was a 3rd gear pull.
Car seems to be working good. This was a canned tune from GTM.
Also the 3rd gear pull is not a good chart so much as the 4th gear pulls
are better looking? Waiting on the tweaking from GTM.

Chuck33079 05-23-2013 12:07 PM

If it was the initial tune he sent, there's a lot left on the table. It was a very noticable difference on mine between the first tune he emailed me and the current one. You'll like the results when he gets back to you. How much boost are you running?

I don't know why a shop would use 3rd gear for dynoing a car. I was under the impression you wanted to get as close to a 1:1 ratio as you could without dealing with excessive wheel speed.

BG370z 05-23-2013 12:31 PM

I think the boost is running around 0.7 bar(10lbs)+/-

Chuck33079 05-23-2013 12:33 PM

10 psi? Okay, then those numbers are more than a little low.

elperuano 05-23-2013 03:27 PM

10lbs? Then sumthin is horribly wrong.

roplusbee 05-23-2013 07:05 PM

0.7 Bar should net something in the neighborhood od 500+ WHP. I am sure that a slightly richer AFR condition is done for safety reasons, but anything under 450 WHP just seems low.

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skidad62 08-27-2013 08:21 PM

Did you ever get this tune straightened out - curious what it put down in the end. Should be a 4th gear pull for sure. My previous car put down 640 to the wheels -looking forward to seeing your TT in person!

BG370z 01-03-2014 11:40 AM

TT parked until spring
 
Products Purchase from Z1/waiting to install:

1 x MOTUL MoCOOL Radiator Coolant Additive
1 x 370Z Upgraded Radiator with Condenser
1 x Mishimoto Thermostat For 370Z/G37
1 x AAM Competition Oil Pan Spacer (VQ37HR)
1 x 08-Up G35 G37 Z Speed Performance Aluminum Engine Under Shroud
Finish: Black

Wish List:
Products
1 x Kinetix 370Z / G37 Front Camber Arms
2 x SPC Rear Camber Arms
1 x BC Racing Type BR- Version: RS
1 x Whiteline Sway Bar Set
1 x Seibon Carbon Fiber Vented Hood-TS

My Tuning:

Got a second tune from Sam(GTM) seems to be working great
i will have to dyno again. Last dynos it was so hot outside it affected
the readings im sure over (30degC+/-)

Chuck33079 01-03-2014 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BG370z (Post 2635548)
Products Purchase from Z1/waiting to install:

1 x MOTUL MoCOOL Radiator Coolant Additive
1 x 370Z Upgraded Radiator with Condenser
1 x Mishimoto Thermostat For 370Z/G37
1 x AAM Competition Oil Pan Spacer (VQ37HR)
1 x 08-Up G35 G37 Z Speed Performance Aluminum Engine Under Shroud
Finish: Black

Wish List:
Products
1 x Kinetix 370Z / G37 Front Camber Arms
2 x SPC Rear Camber Arms
1 x BC Racing Type BR- Version: RS
1 x Whiteline Sway Bar Set
1 x Seibon Carbon Fiber Vented Hood-TS

My Tuning:

Got a second tune from Sam(GTM) seems to be working great
i will have to dyno again. Last dynos it was so hot outside it affected
the readings im sure over (30degC+/-)

Be careful with the Mishimoto stuff. Their themostats fail and can take a motor with them.

BG370z 01-03-2014 11:44 AM

Hey Chuck
thanks for the comment,
Any Other suggestions other than the Mishimoto?
I ran really hot on the track-but it was a scorcher.

Chuck33079 01-03-2014 11:46 AM

Not for the thermostat. Look at fans and hood venting instead of the thermostat. I won't run anything made by Mishimoto. Also, did Sam lower the fan temps on your tune? That helped me a lot.

BG370z 01-03-2014 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2635557)
Not for the thermostat. Look at fans and hood venting instead of the thermostat. I won't run anything made by Mishimoto. Also, did Sam lower the fan temps on your tune? That helped me a lot.

Not sure if fan temps were touched or not. I guess i will have to do some
run files.

theDreamer 01-03-2014 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BG370z (Post 2635554)
Hey Chuck
thanks for the comment,
Any Other suggestions other than the Mishimoto?
I ran really hot on the track-but it was a scorcher.

Fan speeds to kick on lower will help, also upgrading the fans will be a solid move, the hood venting will be a nice added bonus. I am finally getting my seibon TS hood on and once the temps warm up I will finish my data logging and comparison charts.

BG370z 01-03-2014 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2635567)
Fan speeds to kick on lower will help, also upgrading the fans will be a solid move, the hood venting will be a nice added bonus. I am finally getting my seibon TS hood on and once the temps warm up I will finish my data logging and comparison charts.

I was looking at some fans and shrouds also any suggestions?

Chuck33079 01-03-2014 11:59 AM

I'd try the radiator and the lower fan temps first, and then see what additional parts you may need.

theDreamer 01-03-2014 12:06 PM

Since I am not one to do wiring and all that, I know GTM has a nice plug-n-play fan/shroud setup with a couple fan options and it works with their radiator and now confirmed to work with the CSF radiator.

Chuck33079 01-03-2014 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2635595)
Since I am not one to do wiring and all that, I know GTM has a nice plug-n-play fan/shroud setup with a couple fan options and it works with their radiator and now confirmed to work with the CSF radiator.

That's the rub. Theirs is a easy drop-in, but I hesitate to send them any money based on their current issues.

Also, what have you done to combat underhood temps already? Any header wrap/ceramic coating? That may be a good place to look as well.

BG370z 01-03-2014 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2635616)
That's the rub. Theirs is a easy drop-in, but I hesitate to send them any money based on their current issues.

Also, what have you done to combat underhood temps already? Any header wrap/ceramic coating? That may be a good place to look as well.

Thats right i forgot that i have Turbo and header wraps to install as well.

BG370z 01-03-2014 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2635595)
Since I am not one to do wiring and all that, I know GTM has a nice plug-n-play fan/shroud setup with a couple fan options and it works with their radiator and now confirmed to work with the CSF radiator.

i was eyeballing that setup as well. But will look at these options first as wraps,rad and vented hood. Those could be a second option for sure.

luigi90210 01-03-2014 03:27 PM

if you want more power but dont want to spend the money on a full 3in exhaust, get a 3in electric cutout welded on to your test pipe

BG370z 01-04-2014 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2635975)
if you want more power but dont want to spend the money on a full 3in exhaust, get a 3in electric cutout welded on to your test pipe

i have the Z1 test pipes on to the Greddy TIC Turbo exhaust. Never heard of cutting test pipes before.

Chuck33079 01-04-2014 11:40 AM

It would be a pain in the ***. There's not enough room in there if you've got external wastegates. You'd have to weld them in way downstream. You'd also have to get another map for when the cutouts are open. And electric cutouts fail all the time. And they're not cheap.

esfourteen 01-04-2014 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2636992)
It would be a pain in the ***. There's not enough room in there if you've got external wastegates. You'd have to weld them in way downstream. You'd also have to get another map for when the cutouts are open. And electric cutouts fail all the time. And they're not cheap.

I've thought about cutouts before, you could install them just after the test pipes and it would still be a big improvement, but you absolutely do not need another tune for a larger exhaust, I wish people would stop spreading information like this when they don't fully understand things. They certainly seem prone to failure though which is a concern.

luigi90210 01-04-2014 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2636992)
It would be a pain in the ***. There's not enough room in there if you've got external wastegates. You'd have to weld them in way downstream. You'd also have to get another map for when the cutouts are open. And electric cutouts fail all the time. And they're not cheap.

You don't need to retune unless boost starts spiking to stupidly high levels, I have seen eclipses with cutouts spike upwards of 5psi with the cutout open vs closed.

Also the more expensive cutouts have low failure rates with good warranties. QTP(I think that's the companies name) has an extremely low failure rate and has a leak proof design, but their cutouts are expensive, close to 300 for one. The cutouts that use the butterfly valve design always leak eventually due to soot build up preventing the valve from fully closing.

Chuck33079 01-04-2014 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esfourteen (Post 2637089)
I've thought about cutouts before, you could install them just after the test pipes and it would still be a big improvement, but you absolutely do not need another tune for a larger exhaust, I wish people would stop spreading information like this when they don't fully understand things. They certainly seem prone to failure though which is a concern.


You don't need a retune for a larger exhaust, but you do for the cutout. You're essentially going from a 2.5 in to no exhaust.

esfourteen 01-04-2014 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2637385)
You don't need a retune for a larger exhaust, but you do for the cutout. You're essentially going from a 2.5 in to no exhaust.

no. no you don't.

Chuck33079 01-04-2014 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esfourteen (Post 2637396)
no. no you don't.


You would just run the cutouts with no adjustment to the tune? I would absolutely get it on the dyno and see if anything needed to be adjusted.

esfourteen 01-05-2014 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2637409)
You would just run the cutouts with no adjustment to the tune? I would absolutely get it on the dyno and see if anything needed to be adjusted.


if you're on a stock block and afraid of making too much power, sure put it on a dyno and see if you want to turn down the boost. as far as AFR and timing goes, going from a 2.5" to 3" cutouts won't require a change to the tune

BG370z 01-06-2014 06:11 AM

Are there bigger test pipes(GTM?)
i am running with no cats.

Chuck33079 01-06-2014 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BG370z (Post 2639049)
Are there bigger test pipes(GTM?)
i am running with no cats.

GTM has 3" downpipes, but they won't mate up to a 2.5" exhaust without some work.


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