NOVIDEM Supercharger Nissan 370Z
 

Hi togehter

Today I was at the premiere of the new supercharger 370Z from NOVIDEM of Switzerland!

Enclosed are the first photos!

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Mhhhhhh .... I see no intercooler and the kit looks set up?
Its not the same as the 350Z from the VQ35HR....???

Enjoy...

Greetings from switzerland

Ivo

Hmm. If boost numbers are modest, non-intercooled could still work well on a budget. Looking forward to additional details and dynos -- the kit looks very clean, and the welds are nice.

Wish someone would make a roots blower kit, tho' :(

As far as flow goes, that is as bad as it gets. The split after the supercharger outlet is horrible, and the driver side split is welded in the opposite direction of the flow. That is the angle (about 15*) you want if you want to draw slight vacuum.


I disagree.


It also looks like there is an electric clutch on the s/c drive. It means that the s/c could be turned on/off via switch. I am assuming
that they are trying to save fuel wit this? The Mercedes SC230 had a roots blower also with an electric clutch a few years back. These clutches are much like the a/c clutches...and I am not sure how well they hold.

EDIT:

Found the picture of the s/c with the electric clutch:

http://www.carsteering.com/data/all_...B2-700-Map.jpg

I had the same thought on the intake pipe..

sorry but who ever came up with this must not have any experience with boosting cars, the design is completely flawed :(

There MUST be something in there to divert flow to the driver side intake. Looks cool...if you don't know what you're looking at =D. Though, with the Swedes, I'm not surprised. Sven: "PRESS IT FOR GLORY!"

I kid. Your designs are usually quite practical as well as aesthetically pleasing.

Anytime you may not be getting similar airflow to both throttle-bodies (bends, uneven length piping), I'm out.

That would be my biggest worry. There is no way they can maintain equal pressure on both sides throughout the RPM range--efficiently--and an inefficient method would create heat.

That design looks like garbage.

It's far from ideal, but the volume that has to fill and the distance to the TB is pretty modest, so notwithstanding flow interruption from the sharp bend, boost should be pretty equal -- if it had to travel through another round of piping and an intercooler it would be another story.

Anyway, design theory aside, have they tested it yet?

Hey guys,

here is the dynosheet:

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HP, WHP.....sorry i don't no.....:ugh:

Greetings
Ivo

Looks like bhp. A gain of 80 hp to the crank sounds about right for a non-intercooled set-up.

That's a pretty nice torque curve too.

Wait a minute. You're not a Swede. You're Swiss. Solid looking dyno. Expensive watches and large bank accounts vs. awesome looking cheap furniture.

I drive myself the STILLEN Supercharger:icon18::icon18::icon18:

I unfortunately can not provide accurate information .....

This kit is officially for a week in Switzerland!

Hope that soon more information will be available ...?

Best regards from Switzerland
Ivo

Power and tq do not cross at 5252 rpm on that dyno sheet, meaning one of those numbers is bullshite (technically, scaled wrong).

Will this even be available as a kit? Quick search suggests these are in-house installs only.

If that makes reasonable (but not crazy) power and is inexpensive due to few components, this would make a great kit -- especially for those of us with AT who are leery of risking the trans.

Also, 80hp falls nicely between simple bolt-ons and the lowest current FI applications. If they could get the price right, there could be a good market here.

Someone has gotta explain the goofi IC piping routing tho. it looks like the left bank would get no boost

The efficiency of this supercharger due to the piping would be lower than that of a quality kit with better routing. This lower efficiency means the engine is going to have to work harder to feed itself air which will be unevenly distributed between cylinders.

Also its not rocket science to know that if one side has more pressure than the other it will get more air and thus run leaner. One side of the engine is essentially going to drag the other side along creating added stress, and like mentioned above heat.

Those intake pipes do look retarded, but remember that it's an open plenum. I would still prefer both sides be even.

Yes, the design is really awkward, and air doesn't like to flow through sharp turns -- BUT, the distance to the TB is so short, so I bet the effect is pretty negligible.

The alternative would be a longer length of piping.

Responsiveness is probably better here with the shorter, albeit less than ideal, piping angle.

Probably not much room either -- note the flattened section of piping on the SC outlet piping -- that's much more of a travesty to me than the sharp bend.

Also that sharp bend isn't going to have much of an effect on heat (I think someone implied that?) -- that's really all down to compressor efficiency.

Assuming that's actually Nm of tq, 412 Nm = 304 lbft, which looks to be about the value for torque and power if it crossed at 5252.

Looks like they are using the NOVI Paxton supercharger in this kit.

NOVI Superchargers | Paxton Superchargers

Yes the power is in PS and the torque is in Nm... so you arent going to see them cross at 5252 unless you convert the numbers.

The piping looks stupid. Does it matter? Little to none since its an open plenum anyway. Both throttle bodies are leading to the same place.. you would probably be at very high airflow levels before you saw one bank running different than the other. It may be funny to look at the MAF voltage bias.. but I highly doubt it would matter anyway.

The HP is decent for no intercooler so probably low boost. But the market for its going to be pretty low... people know they can make a lot more power with a higher boost intercooled setup with piping that is more symmetrical and pleasing to the eye.

This kit could be remedied with an intercooler. Send that SC discharge to the front bumper and divide the IC outlet with 2 ends tanks and bring the pipes up symmetrically. Then you are in good shape!

PS: never seen anyone run the MAFs so close to the throttles. Couldn't get any closer than that. Who knows... if it works it works. Id be curious how it behaves when the throttles shut rapidly.

if its offered at under 3K and makes a solid 80 hp, I'd buy it.

Wonder if a rotrex could fit in that position similar to stillen but use air to air inter-cooling.

on gtm twin supercharger setup one was mounted there on each side