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NOBLE|370Z 09-16-2012 12:05 PM

GTM TT KIT on Canadian 370Z (IC question)
 
Folks,

I've been waiting to get my kit installed at a shop in Calgary AB. They have recently just finished installing a GTM TT kit on a new AT AWD G37. I asked the shop how the install went and the shop explained to me that during that install they had to modify the inter-cooler tubing/brackets because of the bumper being different that those on US models. Apparently CDN cars have higher level safety restrictions so the bumper is slightly thicker?

Can someone verify this as being an issue on the G37? I have a MT 370Z and Id like to confirm if another Canadian 370Z has had the GTM kit installed without any modifications to the inter cooler assembly. I have never seen this issue being posted on a thread in the forums and I'm sure Sam at GTM would have made me aware of this if it was the case.

Thank you

Boosted Performance 09-16-2012 01:16 PM

Prior to 2009 yes, the Canadian bumpers had to be strong enough to withstand a 8km/h (5mph) impact without sustaining any damage vs. the 4km/h (2.5mph) standard in the U.S.

2009+ will all be the same since Canada changed the regulation to be more in line with the U.S and international standards.

However, I was able to import my 2006 350z (a few years back) without issue. If the bumper was weaker on the U.S mode, there would have been a ban on importing the car to Canada since it would not comply with the federal regulations.

NOBLE|370Z 09-16-2012 01:35 PM

Okay thank you for your post BP. Now Im concerned why the installer at this shop had to charger x number of extra hours for welding/modifying the IC assembly. They said they wont know if my kit needs to be modified until they try fitting it with all the pieces bolted up.

Its hard to argue with the shop when they already have your car in pieces. Anyways Ill make the point when I go to drop off the vehicle and hope for the best

theaudir8fan 09-16-2012 02:05 PM

hey which shop are you going to? I doubt that this is a issue since the mounting bracket for the front crash beam for US/CAD version are all in the same location and as the intercooler completely replaces it

Legz 09-16-2012 02:44 PM

Tunerworks? The AWD G37 coupe is mine, waiting for it to come alive :):):)

SAM@GTM 09-17-2012 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOBLE|370Z (Post 1918800)
Folks,

I've been waiting to get my kit installed at a shop in Calgary AB. They have recently just finished installing a GTM TT kit on a new AT AWD G37. I asked the shop how the install went and the shop explained to me that during that install they had to modify the inter-cooler tubing/brackets because of the bumper being different that those on US models. Apparently CDN cars have higher level safety restrictions so the bumper is slightly thicker?

Can someone verify this as being an issue on the G37? I have a MT 370Z and Id like to confirm if another Canadian 370Z has had the GTM kit installed without any modifications to the inter cooler assembly. I have never seen this issue being posted on a thread in the forums and I'm sure Sam at GTM would have made me aware of this if it was the case.

Thank you

We have installed many systems on Canadian cars here at our shop and have not found anything to be different between US or Canadian Spec cars. Plus, they haven't even got your car in yet, so how can they say that the kit will have to be modified to fit on a Canadian Spec car? Furthermore, we have not received any phone calls or e-mails from Tunerworks in regards to the piping not fitting the G37X. Common sense says that if there was such an issue, we'd get a phone call so that we can assist them.

Sam

NOBLE|370Z 09-17-2012 08:37 PM

I didn't want to mention which shop stated it... My 370Z was supposed to go into Tunerworks a few weeks ago, but it's been set back because of delays they experienced with LUGZ's G37. The shop manager explained to me part of the delay was due to the the kit tubing requiring modification because it was a CDN model. He cited the CDN difference compared to US bumper thicknesses. I can understand having to modify the tubing/brackets if there are other aftermarket accessories being added to it. Tunerworks didnt say my car would need to have the tubing modified, but they said they didnt know until they tried to fit it. In the back of my head I know that Sam would have given me a heads up if that was the case. Thanks for confirming it for me on this thread anyways Sam.

Im a little bit concerned now. Its starting to sound like Tunerworks may not have fitted the kit on LUGz car properly, or else they were BSing me, to buy them time. LUGZ did Tunerworks explain to you that the aluminum tubing/brackets needed changing on your GTM TT kit? BTW are they done installing the kit yet? They've been working on it for weeks now, so I hope they did a really good job with the install and that you're happy with everything. Any feedback you have about Tunerworks for me would be appreciated. If its negative, please just PM me. Thanks guys

Tombonombona 09-17-2012 10:08 PM

Sub'd for this since this is exactly what I want to do. Except I'm in Saskabush

Legz 09-18-2012 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 1920857)
We have installed many systems on Canadian cars here at our shop and have not found anything to be different between US or Canadian Spec cars. Plus, they haven't even got your car in yet, so how can they say that the kit will have to be modified to fit on a Canadian Spec car? Furthermore, we have not received any phone calls or e-mails from Tunerworks in regards to the piping not fitting the G37X. Common sense says that if there was such an issue, we'd get a phone call so that we can assist them.

Sam

To be honest I've received multiple calls from Tunerworks updating me on the progress, but none that involves piping modifications... Now you've mentioned it, it's getting me worried, as they could of just contacted GTM for help/replacement...

They had the car for almost 2.5 weeks now, here's what they told me of the delay:

-Oil cooler adapter needs to be replaced, it was machined poorly (It's not a GTM kit), so not their fault, I'm getting the adapter replaced as we speak.
-Fuel pump not fitting correctly, needs some sort of bracket replacement? Tunerworks stated they have contacted GTM for a replacement part, Sam if you can verify this?
-They needed to order some small parts from Nissan.

Going to give Casey@Tunerworks a call today to see what's up...

NOBLE|370Z 09-18-2012 11:39 AM

Conclusion
 
Folks

I went to Tunerworks this morning so I could meet the mechanic himself, rather than just going through the shop manager. Admittedly, I just should have done this in the first place. The mechanic told me that he didnt have to do any modification to the tubing of the intercooler as it all fit fine regardless of it being a CDN car, albeit was pretty tight he said. Therefore, I'm not sure why the shop manager made up a story about the tubing being outsourced to have some aluminum welding modifications done...

All the mechancis I met at Tunerworks today gave me a really good impression of their skills and I realized that they're keen on making sure their customer's installs are perfect in the end. For example, I looked at LEGZ G37 this morning, and the install looked absolutely terrific. It was very clean and tidy. The mechanic wasn't afraid to point out some minor fitment issues that he will have fixed by the time the car is done, which demonstrates he is honest and a perfectionist.

Without me having to ask, the mechanics explained how great the GTM kit quality is. They said all the components we're top tier. They do a lot of high end bolt on kit installs on cars like Audi, BMW, Porsche and they said that this kit blew away most of them. I know its beaten to death on this forum how great GTM's kits are, but I'll give Sam a big thumbs up anyway :tup:

This was a long winded reply, and to sum it all up I'm more comfortable now that I have met the people who are personally installing my kit. That's important to me, especially since I'm shelling out ~$4,000 to them :icon17:

Thanks guys

SAM@GTM 09-18-2012 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legz (Post 1921738)
To be honest I've received multiple calls from Tunerworks updating me on the progress, but none that involves piping modifications... Now you've mentioned it, it's getting me worried, as they could of just contacted GTM for help/replacement...

They had the car for almost 2.5 weeks now, here's what they told me of the delay:

-Oil cooler adapter needs to be replaced, it was machined poorly (It's not a GTM kit), so not their fault, I'm getting the adapter replaced as we speak.
-Fuel pump not fitting correctly, needs some sort of bracket replacement? Tunerworks stated they have contacted GTM for a replacement part, Sam if you can verify this?
-They needed to order some small parts from Nissan.

Going to give Casey@Tunerworks a call today to see what's up...

We did get a phone call in regards to the fuel pump bracket. Sometime during the early production years of the G37, Infiniti switched from the early style fuel pump used in previous years to the new style fuel pump that is also used in the 370Z. We sent the appropriate parts for the earlier car in your kit. Once Tunerworks had it apart though, it was clear that you actually had the later style pump that requires different brackets and fittings. Once we confirmed with them that you had the later style pump, we sent them the bracket and fittings right away and that is the last we heard from them.

Also, 2.5 weeks for such a big job is not unrealistic since the motor, transmission, transfer case, front differential and most of the front suspension has to come out on the AWD car to fit the twin turbo kit.

Sam

Legz 09-18-2012 12:00 PM

Fantastic, thanks for the update gentlemen, going to drop by and take a look at install later this afternoon and take some pictures. I do have to agree that the GTM kit is very well made, had the chance to stare at the pipes before handing them over to Tunerworks.

wickedness 09-18-2012 09:48 PM

Hmmmm, cant wait to get a track here so we can see who spins like a top first! My last car was a challenger vortech supercharged with 650 hp, but i found it was a constant pain in calgary except for the afternoon- evening because it was too cold for the tires. As gtr`s are coming down in price in my opinion this is the ideal car for this climate. If you want to go fast without the constant chase the money down the entire driveline so it doesnt break scenario. My z is n.a. and have gone through 2 trannies under warranty.I have 295/30 series rear yokos on 19" rims and have no problem doing a controlled drift over 100. Anyway what i am trying to say is this is such a balanced car with very few mods. Anything rwd with over 500hp makes it into a instant drag car without t.c. . If we ever get a track ill keep this car for it and buy a gtr to hit warp 10!

Legz 10-03-2012 12:05 PM

Got the car back yesterday and was pulling some codes, but Tunerworks took care of it right away, and so far it's running well.

The engine bay should look familiar to most.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8309/8...c8055c96_c.jpg

Like NOBLE said, the hardware itself from GTM has been praised over and over, but I still have to say they are indeed extremely well built and precise. The precision of the kit really shows in the AWD, it's down to the mm's, even the oil pan itself is relocated.

As for you folks interested in Tunerworks, they've been great so far, there are some small issues here and there, but they took care of it instantly. Communication has been great. Sorry no dyno yet, still in the phase of stabilizing the car.

Here's the ICC not able to fit properly due to the non sport bumper. But no biggie, I'm planning to cut the black trim anyway.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8039/8...3a449522_b.jpg

I do have to say, w/ the stock exhaust, boost builds up very fast :tup:

elperuano 10-03-2012 12:10 PM

Nice! Enjoy the new ride! Every full boost run puts a smile from ear to ear on my face


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