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V8Killer 08-31-2012 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Z_RACER (Post 1894758)
excuse me mr 30,000 posts :ugh2:


single turbo takes away from the heart of a NA SPORTS CAR

I'd really like to hear your side of taking the heart away? I'd like to think of it as adding more life.

GaleForce 08-31-2012 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1895267)
Marti has a great relationship with a shipping company and can get your car to his shop for a really good price

We'll need to talk

Isamu 08-31-2012 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 1896237)
We'll need to talk

indeed man, indeed! :tup:

Marti 08-31-2012 05:47 PM

anyone that thinks that the single turbo takes away from ANYTHING..... I'm sorry, I have to say you're incorrect. This thing is a BLAST to drive. Very responsive and it just craps horsepower and speed.

:tiphat:

Boosted Performance 08-31-2012 08:33 PM

I must agree with the post above. I just recently got a chance to go for a spin in the twin scroll car that I recently built a kit for.....and it pulls hard. 10 psi at 3600rpm and from there you just hang on all the way to red line. If feels like the car came off the production floor like that (and perhaps it should have).

XwChriswX 08-31-2012 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CSA0890 (Post 1894853)
Well I cant say Ive ever missed a shift can you? I put over 100 miles a day on my Z a manual would get old fast as my last car did with a stick.

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 1894883)
I'm sure it is, its just something about auto trans that to me personally is just boring. But to each his own!


If ur automatic, what is the point of saying that? You can't ever miss a shift if you're not even shifting! The hard work is already being done for you.
Manual is not for everyone, but neither is automatic.

You do realize that when in the Manual mode, the 7AT operates just like a manual, sans clutch pedal. So you can sit there and just 'go' and never leave 1st gear the same way as if you were in a 6MT. There is just as much room for error in the 7AT as in the 6MT.

The same thing could be said for SynchroRev Matching on the 6MT, it's doing part of the job for you calculating the proper RPMs when you downshift, so unless you never ever turn it on, it's kind of a situation of arguing 6 to one, half a dozen to another...

True an Auto may not be following suit of the 'traditional old-school' mentality of Manual trans or :gtfo2:, but as we've seen, M3, GT-R, Lambo's, Ferarri's, Porche's, are all equipping some variant of an "Auto" trans... And lest we forget, top fuel dragsters.

Hate or not, it is still just as fun in its own way. Sure in a MT you gun it, go, off gas, lurch forward, shift, on gas, snap back, and do this 4 or 5 more times...

But with the 7AT in either mode, you are On the gas, and you never have to take your foot off... it's just go... go... GO. Kind of like riding a jet fighter or a rocket ship. It's hit the 'On' button, and see how far you can push the limit till your balls fail you. :tup:

Isamu 08-31-2012 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1896503)
I must agree with the post above. I just recently got a chance to go for a spin in the twin scroll car that I recently built a kit for.....and it pulls hard. 10 psi at 3600rpm and from there you just hang on all the way to red line. If feels like the car came off the production floor like that (and perhaps it should have).

:iagree: and couldn't do so more...

this thing freaking screams...

Isamu 08-31-2012 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1896592)
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You do realize that when in the Manual mode, the 7AT operates just like a manual, sans clutch pedal. So you can sit there and just 'go' and never leave 1st gear the same way as if you were in a 6MT. There is just as much room for error in the 7AT as in the 6MT.

The same thing could be said for SynchroRev Matching on the 6MT, it's doing part of the job for you calculating the proper RPMs when you downshift, so unless you never ever turn it on, it's kind of a situation of arguing 6 to one, half a dozen to another...

True an Auto may not be following suit of the 'traditional old-school' mentality of Manual trans or :gtfo2:, but as we've seen, M3, GT-R, Lambo's, Ferarri's, Porche's, are all equipping some variant of an "Auto" trans... And lest we forget, top fuel dragsters.

Hate or not, it is still just as fun in its own way. Sure in a MT you gun it, go, off gas, lurch forward, shift, on gas, snap back, and do this 4 or 5 more times...

But with the 7AT in either mode, you are On the gas, and you never have to take your foot off... it's just go... go... GO. Kind of like riding a jet fighter or a rocket ship. It's hit the 'On' button, and see how far you can push the limit till your balls fail you. :tup:

:iagree:

370Z_RACER 09-01-2012 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1896592)
You do realize that when in the Manual mode, the 7AT operates just like a manual, sans clutch pedal. So you can sit there and just 'go' and never leave 1st gear the same way as if you were in a 6MT. There is just as much room for error in the 7AT as in the 6MT.

The same thing could be said for SynchroRev Matching on the 6MT, it's doing part of the job for you calculating the proper RPMs when you downshift, so unless you never ever turn it on, it's kind of a situation of arguing 6 to one, half a dozen to another...

True an Auto may not be following suit of the 'traditional old-school' mentality of Manual trans or :gtfo2:, but as we've seen, M3, GT-R, Lambo's, Ferarri's, Porche's, are all equipping some variant of an "Auto" trans... And lest we forget, top fuel dragsters.

Hate or not, it is still just as fun in its own way. Sure in a MT you gun it, go, off gas, lurch forward, shift, on gas, snap back, and do this 4 or 5 more times...

But with the 7AT in either mode, you are On the gas, and you never have to take your foot off... it's just go... go... GO. Kind of like riding a jet fighter or a rocket ship. It's hit the 'On' button, and see how far you can push the limit till your balls fail you. :tup:

the Z still has a slushbox, unlike those exotics you mention...

SharpByCoop 09-01-2012 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1896592)
But with the 7AT in either mode, you are On the gas, and you never have to take your foot off... it's just go... go... GO.

One of the disappointments when I had my 6-speed Subi STI was how regularly it would miss a shift when going full tilt at the drag strip. I eventually got it to 11.1, and my tuner rode it to an astounding 10.8, but even HE missed a shift the first pass. (Shifting for tens with 500+whp is not as easy as a stock 'slushbox' Z.)

Back on Route 1 at home, I had some MILF in an auto Murano stab the throttle against my Subi from light to light. She killed me because I was pausing between shifts. (Read Chris' quote...) 10-second Subi p0wned by a soccer mom.

Hence, the switchover for me. I LOVE it.

BOY_RACER, errr... 370_RACER, you have much to teach, but MORE to learn.

Just sayin'.... ;)

Coop

Isamu 09-01-2012 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SharpByCoop (Post 1897680)
One of the disappointments when I had my 6-speed Subi STI was how regularly it would miss a shift when going full tilt at the drag strip. I eventually got it to 11.1, and my tuner rode it to an astounding 10.8, but even HE missed a shift the first pass. (Shifting for tens with 500+whp is not as easy as a stock 'slushbox' Z.)

Back on Route 1 at home, I had some MILF in an auto Murano stab the throttle against my Subi from light to light. She killed me because I was pausing between shifts. (Read Chris' quote...) 10-second Subi p0wned by a soccer mom.

Hence, the switchover for me. I LOVE it.

BOY_RACER, errr... 370_RACER, you have much to teach, but MORE to learn.

Just sayin'.... ;)

Coop

:tup:

XwChriswX 09-01-2012 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Z_RACER (Post 1897346)
the Z still has a slushbox, unlike those exotics you mention...

:facepalm: Then you didn't get the meaning of my post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SharpByCoop (Post 1897680)
One of the disappointments when I had my 6-speed Subi STI was how regularly it would miss a shift when going full tilt at the drag strip. I eventually got it to 11.1, and my tuner rode it to an astounding 10.8, but even HE missed a shift the first pass. (Shifting for tens with 500+whp is not as easy as a stock 'slushbox' Z.)

Back on Route 1 at home, I had some MILF in an auto Murano stab the throttle against my Subi from light to light. She killed me because I was pausing between shifts. (Read Chris' quote...) 10-second Subi p0wned by a soccer mom.

Hence, the switchover for me. I LOVE it.

BOY_RACER, errr... 370_RACER, you have much to teach, but MORE to learn.

Just sayin'.... ;)

Coop

:icon17: Nice. Can't say the same for other AT's, but the 370z AT in the world of AT's I'd say is very potent... compared to other AT's.

Isamu 09-01-2012 07:55 PM

the 7AT is badass! and I drive a manual..

Red__Zed 09-01-2012 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SharpByCoop (Post 1897680)
One of the disappointments when I had my 6-speed Subi STI was how regularly it would miss a shift when going full tilt at the drag strip. I eventually got it to 11.1, and my tuner rode it to an astounding 10.8, but even HE missed a shift the first pass. (Shifting for tens with 500+whp is not as easy as a stock 'slushbox' Z.)


Coop

10s are nothing. 9s or bust:roflpuke2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66yYiCwHYD8

XwChriswX 09-01-2012 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1897812)
10s are nothing. 9s or bust:roflpuke2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66yYiCwHYD8

9s or nothing. 8s or bust:roflpuke2:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCC9Uug4o8E

And sometimes, both...



:|

Red__Zed 09-01-2012 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1897823)
9s or nothing. 8s or bust:roflpuke2:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCC9Uug4o8E

And sometimes, both...



:|

I can't even imagine trying to get a traditional manual through the SQM sub 9...crazy stuff

XwChriswX 09-01-2012 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1897830)
I can't even imagine trying to get a traditional manual through the SQM sub 9...crazy stuff

:iagree: Good luck with that...


Poor s2k.

Red__Zed 09-01-2012 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1897832)
:iagree: Good luck with that...


Poor s2k.

What is insane is he still ran an 11.45...despite running completely into the other lane and then driving back.



For reference, against the top FI Z times...



FORCED INDUCTION
1) SharpByCoop --GTM TT S2-- 08 G37S coupe 5AT 11.439 @ 125.68 mph 1.816 60ft DR
<-----curb-hopping s2000-- 11.45 @ 55.21
2) *Billy02987 --GTM TT S2-- 09 Tour Sport 6MT 11.736 @ 122.59 mph 1.942 60ft street - driven by jnaut
3) Nismo370 -----GTM TT S1-- 09 Nismo ---- 6MT 11.759 @ 127.14 mph 2.157 60ft street
4) Brazilbro ----GTM TT S1-- 09 Base Sport 6MT 11.812 @ 126.51 mph 2.020 60ft street
5) 98intrigue ---custom ST-- 10 40th ----- 6MT 11.852 @ 119.61 mph 1.880 60ft DR
6) Seb@SZ -------GTM TT S2-- 10 Base Sport 6MT 11.961 @ 122.13 mph 1.843 60ft DR
7) *RCZ --------Stillen SC-- 09 Tour Sport 6MT 12.207 @ 116.34 mph 2.034 60ft street - driven by jnaut



:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

XwChriswX 09-01-2012 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1897843)
What is insane is he still ran an 11.45...despite running completely into the other lane and then driving back.



For reference, against the top FI Z times...



FORCED INDUCTION
1) SharpByCoop --GTM TT S2-- 08 G37S coupe 5AT 11.439 @ 125.68 mph 1.816 60ft DR
<-----curb-hopping s2000-- 11.45 @ 55.21
2) *Billy02987 --GTM TT S2-- 09 Tour Sport 6MT 11.736 @ 122.59 mph 1.942 60ft street - driven by jnaut
3) Nismo370 -----GTM TT S1-- 09 Nismo ---- 6MT 11.759 @ 127.14 mph 2.157 60ft street
4) Brazilbro ----GTM TT S1-- 09 Base Sport 6MT 11.812 @ 126.51 mph 2.020 60ft street
5) 98intrigue ---custom ST-- 10 40th ----- 6MT 11.852 @ 119.61 mph 1.880 60ft DR
6) Seb@SZ -------GTM TT S2-- 10 Base Sport 6MT 11.961 @ 122.13 mph 1.843 60ft DR
7) *RCZ --------Stillen SC-- 09 Tour Sport 6MT 12.207 @ 116.34 mph 2.034 60ft street - driven by jnaut



:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

:bowrofl:

Considering he was running 1.5x the HP of any of those cars listed, I'd say I would expect him to do as good/better. :roflpuke2:

But yeah, still pretty impressive to beat a stock Z through the wall... :icon17:

Fabio88 09-01-2012 10:57 PM

I dont know about all of this STS makes sick turbo systems and give you room for way more stuff I have sts and soon will be at 700 rwhp.

Isamu 09-01-2012 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fabio88 (Post 1898047)
I dont know about all of this STS makes sick turbo systems and give you room for way more stuff I have sts and soon will be at 700 rwhp.

:ugh2: hope you built that motor

98intrigue 09-02-2012 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Fabio88 (Post 1898047)
I dont know about all of this STS makes sick turbo systems and give you room for way more stuff I have sts and soon will be at 700 rwhp.

:rolleyes::ugh2::bowrofl:

Isamu 09-02-2012 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 98intrigue (Post 1898170)
:rolleyes::ugh2::bowrofl:

:icon18::iagree:

Fabio88 09-02-2012 01:21 AM

If you want to hear what my car sounds like heres a lil teaser :)

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=...type=2&theater

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=...type=2&theater


this link below is when i was at 451 rwhp not bad pull

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=...type=2&theater

this is when i first got it out of the shop before i added rims and carbon fiber and paint
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=...type=2&theater

GaleForce 09-02-2012 07:45 AM

Let's get back on topic ;) ,I want to know more about Isamu's turbo idea/plan... :driving:

Isamu 09-02-2012 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 1898274)
Let's get back on topic ;) ,I want to know more about Isamu's turbo idea/plan... :driving:

right now I am making 508whp, and 404wtq. the goal is to get the torque more inline with the hp.
I don't know if you have seen my dyno sheet, but the curve is very smooth, and the car drives almost like stock before boost. I know Marti wants to keep that same feel, but deliver more torque.... and for me, more power

370Z_RACER 09-02-2012 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1898288)
right now I am making 508whp, and 404wtq. the goal is to get the torque more inline with the hp.
I don't know if you have seen my dyno sheet, but the curve is very smooth, and the car drives almost like stock before boost. I know Marti wants to keep that same feel, but deliver more torque.... and for me, more power

any plans to do anything with that power?

Isamu 09-02-2012 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Z_RACER (Post 1898336)
any plans to do anything with that power?

yea, I have a solo date with Road America next year...
and I want to do some more serious track events...after of course going and obtaining my license

370Z_RACER 09-02-2012 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1898796)
yea, I have a solo date with Road America next year...
and I want to do some more serious track events...after of course going and obtaining my license

which event are you running?

why would you get a single turbo if

a) you dont even have a license et
b) you want to do anything but strait line

GaleForce 09-02-2012 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1898288)
right now I am making 508whp, and 404wtq. the goal is to get the torque more inline with the hp.
I don't know if you have seen my dyno sheet, but the curve is very smooth, and the car drives almost like stock before boost. I know Marti wants to keep that same feel, but deliver more torque.... and for me, more power

Sounds good. I did see your graph and it was very smooth :tup:

blackonorange 09-02-2012 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 98intrigue (Post 1898170)
:rolleyes::ugh2::bowrofl:

Idk I love my STS kit, my car still puts vettes down even with -2.5 camber on the rear

Fabio88 09-02-2012 08:12 PM

:happydance::happydance::happydance:
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 1899053)
Idk I love my STS kit, my car still puts vettes down even with -2.5 camber on the rear


Isamu 09-02-2012 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Z_RACER (Post 1898834)
which event are you running?

I have been afforded the chance to run Road America by myself/ It's not for an event, just an opportunity to have free reign of a nice track...
Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Z_RACER (Post 1898834)
why would you get a single turbo if

a) you dont even have a license et
b) you want to do anything but strait line

do you know anything? I mean seriously?
your comments are nonsensical at best... by your logic, I shouldn't mod my car unless I am a racecar driver? :facepalm:
why does one put an intake or exhaust on ones car? because they want to mod... or have more power, or because they can...
No, I don't have an SCCA license yet.. I am Active Duty Military, the lead of my section, and deploy so I can't just take off any ol' time to do the class(es)

now with that, please leave your ignorant and off topic questions at the door.. kthxbye...

Isamu 09-02-2012 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 1898968)
Sounds good. I did see your graph and it was very smooth :tup:

Thanks! I am very happy with it, but I am in that boat where I want more power... lol

however, I am getting a roll cage, and more suspension work done while the car is going to be down.

GaleForce 09-02-2012 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1899127)
Thanks! I am very happy with it, but I am in that boat where I want more power... lol

however, I am getting a roll cage, and more suspension work done while the car is going to be down.

:tup: for the cage. I was thinking about this myself, nothing major, just something to properly mount 4 point harnesses for use with some Status seats :tup:

Fabio88 09-02-2012 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1899127)
Thanks! I am very happy with it, but I am in that boat where I want more power... lol

however, I am getting a roll cage, and more suspension work done while the car is going to be down.

It will be cool to have more FI options with the z you cant go wrong there.

98intrigue 09-02-2012 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 1899053)
Idk I love my STS kit, my car still puts vettes down even with -2.5 camber on the rear

I was laughing at the fact that he said 700rwhp...not simply because he has an STS kit.

blackonorange 09-02-2012 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 98intrigue (Post 1899208)
I was laughing at the fact that he said 700rwhp...not simply because he has an STS kit.

Ohhhh gotchya

XwChriswX 09-02-2012 10:16 PM

:drama:

Fabio88 09-03-2012 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 98intrigue (Post 1899208)
I was laughing at the fact that he said 700rwhp...not simply because he has an STS kit.

Im not at 700 rwhp I said I will be soon its a project please read.


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