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zuperman 370 05-28-2012 10:33 AM

will i need A/F sensors and box
 
Hey guys if im going FI, and purchase the blitz touch brain or any reader, will i need to purchase an O2 sensor cable and sensor box to hook it up to the system for it to read the A/F, or can i use the existing O2 sensors that are alread on the car to hook it up to the reader, the sensor and box cost something close to 600$ so im hoping that i wont need to purchase that part.

JMac88 05-28-2012 12:47 PM

This is something I ran into as I have gauges that read the factory O2 sensors.....

The factory o2 sensors are not true widebands, and therefore I would recommend an aftermarket sensor.

Depending on the system (i don't know blitz at all) i chose to go with the innovative lc-1 as it has a 5v out that will work with most digital gauges/systems

zuperman 370 05-28-2012 01:28 PM

Ohh ok thank you for the advice so I should buy the extra a/f box, can you please show me what you are running to monitor you af bosst etc

Ron 05-28-2012 01:44 PM

factory sensors are wideband. I am reading them through obd2 using dashcommand and when comparing the readings to my innovate mtx-l they are very similar if not the same. I keep the actual gauge on the glove box just for peace of mind but I mostly go by the stock sensors.

What happened to the JUN cams?

zuperman 370 05-28-2012 01:53 PM

So there will be no need to purchase the a/f box ?

Ron 05-28-2012 02:01 PM

Depends on the system you go with. Blitz R-VIT DS does not require additional sensors to read from AF from OBD2. HKS Camp 2 does.

What I do, like mentioned above, is read AF via OBD2 using DashCommand installed on a CarPC and keep a standalone AFR gauge on the glove box.

zuperman 370 05-28-2012 02:05 PM

What about the blitz touch brain? Vit ds has been discontinued

Ron 05-28-2012 02:13 PM

Looks like it should work without any additional sensors, you will need a sensor for boost though.

Quote:

Product Specs
Brand: BLITZ
Product: Touch B.R.A.I.N
Part Num: 15158

FEATURES:
- 3.5 inch TFT/Touch panel display. Achieve better operability and visibility.
- Easy installation by connecting to OBD connector
- Newest program can be downloaded from Blitz website for future upgrades.
- A variety of graphics can be displayed, such as Racing mode, 3D mode, and Eco mode
- Logging data while driving can be saved into USB memory or SD card
- Equipped with Data logger function to watch saved data on the PC. Real time logging to connect to the PC with original USB cable Separately available) is also available
- Equipped with a Reflash function which can rewrite standard ECU data through the SD card which has a tuning program (Separately available). Simply execute the program on the Reflash mode and reprogram the standard ECU.If the standard program is backed up, it can be recovered easily.
- By connecting original sensors to the Junction Box (separately available),external input data for real can also be displayed.
- Wide range of both Japanese and European fitments available.

SPECIFICATIONS:
Dimensions (mm): 15 x 133mm × 74mm
LCD screen: 3.5inch TFT LCD Touch Panel
Display Items: up to 50 (up to 8 items can be displayed simultaneously)
Show Style: 56 categories
External features: USB, microSD, can be connected to PC
Accessories: Universal Monitor Holder

Readings:
- Rotation
- Vehicle Speed
- Ignition
- Throttle
- Water Temperature
- Intake Temperature
- External Air Temperature
- ATF Oil Temperature
- Exhaust temperature voltage
- Airflow
- Airflow 2
- Airflow Hz
- Intake Manifold
- Boost
- Solenoid
- Solenoid 2
- Air intake g/s
- Air intake %
- I/J ms
- I/J %
- I/J 2ms
- I/J 2%
- Gear
- Power
- Distance
- Real-Time fuel consumption
- Average fuel consumption
- Cumulative mileage
- Mileage interval
- Fuel Consumed
- Fuel Cost
- A/F Control 1
- A/F Control 2
- A/F 1
- A/F 2

- A/F Restore 1
- A/F Restore R
- A/F Restore 2
- A/F Learning 1
- A/F Learning 2
- O2
- O2 R
- O2 2
- Battery
- Fuel pressure
- Fuel temperature
- 4WD

PRODUCT NOTES:
- works with most vehicles with OBD port and can also work on older Nissan models with the addition of an extra wiring harness.
- Depending on the vehicle, there might be information that cannot be displayed.
- Please contact us with vehicle details for further information on wether the Touch B.R.A.I.N will work with your vehicle and for information on what can be displaye

zuperman 370 05-28-2012 02:24 PM

Thanx a lot for clearing that up bro, what about boost sensors I'll deff need that right

Ron 05-28-2012 02:38 PM

Correct, you will need additional sensors for anything that OBD2 doesn't provide. Boost, oil temp, oil pressure, fuel temp, exh temp etc etc.

zuperman 370 05-28-2012 02:42 PM

Cool thanx Ron for your help, don't our cars already read oil temp? Will I need all of that for FI?

Ron 05-28-2012 02:46 PM

It does read it but it is not an OBD2 parameter, there is a separate sensor for it. I am still using the stock gauge to monitor oil temps.

zuperman 370 05-28-2012 02:51 PM

Thanx man a lot, so a/f reading and boost should be enough for starters and can get everything later on, thanx again bro for clearing everything up rep coming ur way:D

Ron 05-28-2012 02:55 PM

Anytime man :tiphat:

This is what I am monitoring on my system, plus oil temp on the stock gauge:

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...3/IMG_1625.jpg

zuperman 370 05-28-2012 03:04 PM

Nice bro what system are you running looks like it's custome


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