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SAM@GTM 02-24-2012 08:17 PM

GTM Performance Engineering: Stage 1 Supercharger Upgrade Kit 500whp capable
 
We here at GTM are thoroughly excited to share the results of the Stage 1 Supercharger Upgrade kit. We tirelessly push the envelope and we're never satisfied!

For those of you not familiar with this upgrade kit, it effectively uses the intake system and supercharger compressor housing of our Stage 2 Supercharger kit to help the Stage 1 Supercharger breathe better. And oh, does it ever breathe!

Below is the list of all the parts that comes in this upgrade :

GTM SC Compressor housing C38-81 V band type
GTM SC Pulley 92mm
GTM Power St Fitting
GTM Power St Hose
GTM Breather Filter
GTM Urethane Eng Mount
GTM 3" MAF Piping
GTM 3" Inlet Intake
GTM 4.5" Intake Filter
GTM Transition Couplers
GTM T-Bolt 3" V-band Clamp
GTM SC Belt
GTM Base ECU Map

Depending on Pulley size, We recommend the following :

Bosch EV14 650cc injector upgrade
GTM Fuel Pump Voltage Stabilizer kit
Custom Dyno Tuning

With these breathing parts added to the C38-81 supercharger in our Stage 1 kit, we were able to squeeze every last drop of horsepower out of that blower. More, in fact, than anyone gave this blower credit for.

Below is the dyno graph. The BLUE lines are a bone stock 2011 Nismo 370Z.

The RED lines are the same car with our Stage 1 S/C and upgrade kit, 10psi of boost, test pipes, and HKS Cat-back Exhaust on 91 octane pump gas.

The GREEN Lines are the same mods except a smaller pulley, 11psi of boost on 93 octane gas.


For people that don't have our Supercharger yet and want this kind of performance out of the box, we'll be offering a Stage 1.5 Supercharger Kit so you can have great performance with a good price point.

Baer383 02-24-2012 09:22 PM

Sam you weren't kidding that is very impressive.:tup:

I will call you Monday to talk to you about the upgrade.


Thanks Frank

P.S. email me stage 1 instructions I already have stage 2.

Ron 02-25-2012 09:18 AM

Where's theDreamer? Matt come get one of these!

Zat_Zuma 02-25-2012 09:52 AM

Very nicely done :tup:

KevinB 02-25-2012 10:51 AM

What's the price point of the 1.5?

edub370 02-25-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinB (Post 1564792)
What's the price point of the 1.5?

(price of stage 1 + price of stage 2)/2 ?????

haha i really wouldnt be surprised if that was close but idk

theDreamer 02-25-2012 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1564690)
Where's theDreamer? Matt come get one of these!

Hahaha

phunk 02-25-2012 12:23 PM

damn that is some really good output to get out of a clean fit supercharger kit.

well done.

prescott3656 02-25-2012 01:23 PM

On the Website it's about $1300 for the upgrade with one engine mount and about $1500 with both mounts. Not too bad IMO, might be ordering this in the coming months...

Mike@GTM 02-25-2012 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinB (Post 1564792)
What's the price point of the 1.5?

For the upgrade kit, it is $1,326.53 Here's the link: GTM Motorsports*::*FORCED INDUCTION*::*GTM STAGE ONE SUPERCHARGER COMPRESSOR HOUSING/INTAKE UPGRADE

For the Stage 1.5 Supercharger Turn-Key kit, it is $7,172.00 Here's the link to that: GTM Motorsports*::*FORCED INDUCTION*::*GTM 370Z 550HP STG1.5 SUPERCHARGER (TURN KEY) KIT

SPOHN 02-25-2012 02:00 PM

At what point is the fuel pump votage stabilizer needed? Just when upgraded fuel pump and injectors? And what flaws lie in the stock system that this is needed?

Mike@GTM 02-25-2012 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phunk (Post 1564967)
damn that is some really good output to get out of a clean fit supercharger kit.

well done.

Thank you! I'm happy we were able to pull this off and really show just how impressive the Rotrex units really are. Of all the supercharger units we've ever worked with, Rotrex makes the best ones, hands down. I'm really surprised that they have such low market penetration here in the US. It seems people in general are very resistant to progress and technological advances. Too bad, really...they're missing out. lol

Mike@GTM 02-25-2012 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 1565122)
At what point is the fuel pump votage stabilizer needed? Just when upgraded fuel pump and injectors? And what flaws lie in the stock system that this is needed?

When we were developing the Stage 2 Supercharger kit, we found that air/fuel ratios were not being consistent. This was very strange because we hadn't run into that problem on our Twin Turbo kits on the 370Z or any of the earlier VQ cars we have Forced Induction Systems for.

We did a lot of digging, data logging and testing to find the root cause of the issue. You see, on the 370Z, Nissan changed the wiring to the factory fuel pump wiring harness. On the stock fuel pump it's no big deal and in fact the older Z's and G's were a bit overkill on the wiring side of things. What we discovered, was that voltage was dropping when the fuel pump was working the hardest and drawing the most power. We developed our Fuel Pump Voltage Stabilizer to make sure that the fuel pump gets the voltage it needs to operate properly all the time without having any fuel delivery issues.

It has been alluded to in the past as to why this isn't an issue on the twin turbo cars before, but I'll go over it again just briefly here. Twin Turbos do not consume horsepower in order to produce positive manifold pressure the same way that a supercharger does. That means that in order to get XXXwhp from a supercharger, you need XXX + the amount of power the charger consumes. As such, there is significantly more fuel demand on a supercharged car at peak power than the equivalent power turbocharged car.

Now, you asked "at what point" it is required. The answer is "it depends". On our supercharger kits, if you are going for 480+whp, it's a good idea. There may be cars that have a lower threshold than that, and there may be cars that can tolerate more power. There's a lot of variables involved, but we take the stance of "better safe than sorry" with this and include it as part of our Stage 2 Supercharger kit and highly recommend it with the Stage 1.5 system. It is also available on its own for those that purchased systems from other companies that don't take things quite as seriously as we do. Remember, we don't just make a kit, we engineer the whole shebang to make sure that no matter what power or performance you are after, you have the products available to have everything mesh together cohesively. ;)

theaudir8fan 02-25-2012 04:26 PM

wow, great results, can't believe it did that well

SPOHN 02-25-2012 04:30 PM

Very interesting read. Nice to see you guys take it to the next step. GTM is truly innovators in this business. Thanks.


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