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O&G 01-17-2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1493925)
Yes I mentioned that too and got ignored, he had some other stuff too. STS is just not worth it to me. Jtran's single is far superior IMO




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ROFL, glad your back homie! Get that 3' exhaust in ASAP!

car8oy281 01-17-2012 03:31 PM

someone had mentioned s and r and there 5xx whp at 9 psi. there type of Dyno reads pretty high. a stock ctsv SC on that type of Dyno makes right at 525 whp. on our Dyno the same vehicle only makes right at 415 to 418 whp

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Kingbaby 01-17-2012 06:16 PM

Interesting?

blackonorange 01-17-2012 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by car8oy281 (Post 1494579)
someone had mentioned s and r and there 5xx whp at 9 psi. there type of Dyno reads pretty high. a stock ctsv SC on that type of Dyno makes right at 525 whp. on our Dyno the same vehicle only makes right at 415 to 418 whp

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Ye I agree Dynos can be skewed

roplusbee 01-17-2012 08:20 PM

To Ron and O&G:

I want to be there to witness, lol. Drag strip or closed circuit? If it is the latter, I want in as well!

To all interested:
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I think 98intrigue pushed the single turbo thing with his build and trial/tribulations. There are others out there that did well and props to them. As far as what works "best" on a platform? That one can be debated for quite some time. I think Mike and a few others hit it on the head earlier on in the discussion.

For me.....this is my first V configuration engine and to me, I would only run twins to reduce the interesting things that a single brings to that setup. Every other turbo'd car I have owned or worked on was an "I" configuration and was better suited for larger single turbo setups. Two of my colleagues had I6s and I had an I4.

One had RHD MKIII Supra (1.5JZ-GTE with Blitz TT upgrade kit) and installed a equal length tubular manifold and some random T4 Garrett. It sucked. We then sourced a cast iron single manifold and we were chasing him as a result. The second guy had a R33 GTS-T (with RB26DETT swap). Lets just say we spent most of the time working on his car. Eventually, we rebuilt his motor and went with a T04 Garrett as well. For some reason, he continually had problems with boost/vac. He got it straight right before he left, but I am not sure if he sold it or took it to his next assignment. Lastly, I had a S13 200SX Fastback (CA18DET that needed a ton of maintenance and TLC). I made the mistake of not managing my goals/expectations and built the motor twice. Once to stock goodness and again so that I could clear the 300HP limitation without blowing up. I wasted money on tubular manifolds (2 to be exact), rebuilt T25/T28 turbos (1 stock rebuild and 2 FP branded). I ended up with the good ole stock cast iron manifold, ported stock intake manifold, and a GT2871r with upgraded turbine/compressor wheel(s). I had heat shields out the yin/yang in my engine bay until I decided to go back to the stock manifolds. We wrapped all of my exhaust piping )down to the cat-delete the last go around and replaced the stock heat shields.

The end result? From a dig, the R33 would jump out and get walked down by the other 2. From a roll, the MKIII was a beast. The 2 I6s would jump ahead, but I would walk them down by 100mph (which was too late). Maybe if I started in a lower gear to keep my boost up, I would have done better.....Oh well!

NYBladeZ 01-17-2012 08:50 PM

Now that's how you settle it, #s are nice but applying it safely at the track is what really matters!

blackonorange 01-17-2012 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 1495189)
Now that's how you settle it, #s are nice but applying it safely at the track is what really matters!

True that

gbrettin 01-18-2012 11:59 AM

I'd be interested in more comparisons between STS and the twin setup.

The major thing I've noticed is that the STS setup looks easy to get running on the car (very appealing). The finished product of GTM looks a lot better imho.

Awesome write up Mike.

blackonorange 01-18-2012 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin (Post 1496129)
I'd be interested in more comparisons between STS and the twin setup.

The major thing I've noticed is that the STS setup looks easy to get running on the car (very appealing). The finished product of GTM looks a lot better imho.

Awesome write up Mike.

My STs setup will be here on Friday I will put together a good review for every one with lots of pics as well

erkthejerk73 01-18-2012 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 1496150)
My STs setup will be here on Friday I will put together a good review for every one with lots of pics as well

you installing or a shop doing it?

blackonorange 01-18-2012 12:21 PM

Shop cause I'm doin headers as well , and I don't wanna do that lol

gbrettin 01-18-2012 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 1496150)
My STs setup will be here on Friday I will put together a good review for every one with lots of pics as well

Nice! I'm very interested. :tup:

blackonorange 01-18-2012 06:31 PM

Shop quoted me at 2 g with install and tune me driving away the car they told me that installing headers takes almost as long as the STS kit

tower74 01-18-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 1496150)
My STs setup will be here on Friday I will put together a good review for every one with lots of pics as well

Sleepless nights ahead of you...trust me:excited:. The first pull you do will make you want more:cool:

blackonorange 01-18-2012 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tower74 (Post 1497392)
Sleepless nights ahead of you...trust me:excited:. The first pull you do will make you want more:cool:

I'm hoping to get 500 whp with the headers on 10 psi


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