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SAM@GTM 09-13-2011 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by travisjb (Post 1310964)
Apparently mine ships today...

Terrific press release, Sam!

Thanks Travis, When is the next track event with the SC system on the car ?

Sam

blackonorange 09-13-2011 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 1310595)
The 03/04 Cobra ran 12.9 out of the box. There are stock Z's doing that on here. Considering the Cobra makes 390hp/390tq out of the box the real weakness is in its IRS. Even with the whipple you'll make the #'s but you'll never put it down. You would have to swap out to a 2004 Mustang GT solid axle to get consistent traction. Of course if you do so you lose the little handling capabilities the IRS gave the 03/04 cobra. Undoubtedly a great car, 4.6L cast iron factory S/C but it won't be able to run with an S/C stg2 Z. Now if you want to talk about price and bang for the buck that's kind of dumb considering you're talking about a car almost 10 years old, of course the aftermarket is dirt cheap even by mustang standards now. The 03/04 Cobra is heavy, handles poorly and has nothing going for it except that engine which has been eclipsed by the new 5.0. Time to move on man, I was on the verge of getting a Cobra before the Z but I can't live in the past. 17K if not paid in full, will lead to an upside down auto loan, which blows!

Thank you, lol I didn't wanna be the one to tell him that

DarkZide 09-13-2011 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 1311264)
Thank you, lol I didn't wanna be the one to tell him that

He didn't tell me anything and you weren't going to either. Thinking the Z is superior to the Cobra when taking into the consideration of the time difference of their production and technologies at the time is fool hardy. Look at the Z you had in production at that time....a 350z that couldn't outrun a mustang GT from that same era.

shumby 09-13-2011 04:21 PM

Sam. will LTH's work on either the stage 1 or stage 2? Would like to put these on when I get my trans. As well would you have a base tune for this or should I get a local shop to tune after LTH install?

NYBladeZ 09-13-2011 04:25 PM

Last I checked a 350z on a road circuit will more than handle a Cobra. Based on your posts you have a history with built Stangs, as do I. I'm telling you for a fact, even with the IRS brace, the Cobra is only good for straight lines. Hell almost all Mustangs are until the new 5.0 which is in a category of its own.

You can point away the money argument all you want, its irrelevant, I could get a CRX throw in a built spoon engine run a 200 shot and blow a Cobra's doors off at far less than $17k. A turbo charged z34 or s/c z34 will take a Cobra even a whippled one in a straight light however throw a turn in there and a small margin of victory on a drag strip will turn into bus lengths on a road course. The Cobra is nose heavy, the suspension is crap why do you think the IRS never carried over and if your friend financed all or part of the $17k it means in the long run he pays more than $17k and got ripped off, end of story. Now stop making me trash the Cobra bc I love that car more than any mustang to ever see the road during my lifetime, I'm just not delusional.

NYBladeZ 09-13-2011 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by shumby (Post 1311418)
Sam. will LTH's work on either the stage 1 or stage 2? Would like to put these on when I get my trans. As well would you have a base tune for this or should I get a local shop to tune after LTH install?

I have a bad feeling the LTH's will not help SC'd guys until VVEL is cracked, it just flows to damn well.

shumby 09-13-2011 04:36 PM

YA that is the issue I ran into with Sam and my install. But i thibnk dreamer is runnign LTH's on his SC.

NYBladeZ 09-13-2011 04:39 PM

Yeah I know he is, but I don't think he's making any real gains with them. Hopefully sam will shed some light. Initially sam said that LTH's wont work unless modified to fit the Stage 2.

blackonorange 09-13-2011 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkZide (Post 1311322)
He didn't tell me anything and you weren't going to either. Thinking the Z is superior to the Cobra when taking into the consideration of the time difference of their production and technologies at the time is fool hardy. Look at the Z you had in production at that time....a 350z that couldn't outrun a mustang GT from that same era.

I bought my z cause it has suede ( a form of suede I guess), cause it's got power seats, steering wheel controls . What I'm getting at is it has options, it's refined. That stuff costs money it's not just straight power it's a refined power. There's more to a car then just a 1/4 mile time so don't come in here saying we are all crazy for paying what we do. My Roomate has a 06 gto , I could argue with muscle heads all day

G37sHKS 09-13-2011 04:44 PM

Okay how come this thread went from Sc press release to Cobra vs 370Z? :shakes head::shakes head:

blackonorange 09-13-2011 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by G37sHKS (Post 1311462)
Okay how come this thread went from Sc press release to Cobra vs 370Z? :shakes head::shakes head:

I know sorry.. Great work Sam looks great, I'm just not a fan of the tq numbers and I'm set on STs system but if I was going this route I would be ecstatic about this kit :)

NYBladeZ 09-13-2011 04:54 PM

Me too, I'm going to start banging and yelling "We need a VVEL Crack." Its the final piece of the puzzle.

Jamaica 09-13-2011 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by shumby (Post 1311440)
YA that is the issue I ran into with Sam and my install. But i thibnk dreamer is runnign LTH's on his SC.

not anymore.

Do people really think Sam will modify the kit to fit LTH?

blackonorange 09-13-2011 04:56 PM

Is that the reason for the lower tq numbers?

NYBladeZ 09-13-2011 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamaica@UAMotorsports (Post 1311487)
not anymore.

Do people really think Sam will modify the kit to fit LTH?

I think the LTH's will need to be modified, either way in the long term you're asking for it if you continue to run stock cats. I'll wait on going f.i. until everything is said and done, problem is I'll be waiting for a while.


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