can anyone explain this?
 

for those who are interested in FI or have done FI, I have a question for you.

1. Did you know that you would go for the FI eventually when you determined to get a Z?
2. What are the advantages getting 370z TT/SC instead of Evo/Sti's cheap HP upgrade?

I bought my Z 3 months ago, and I have just realized that it costs way more money to go FI route for n/a car. I was not a car guy :(
Many of my friends suggest me to trade in my car for EvoX and do some turbo upgrade if I have money to go for TT/SC for my Z because even if I lose my money on trade-in, EvoX will be much faster.
What do you think about it?

BTW, my goal is to have 400+.

answers
1: No actully I never had the intention to go FI untill i joined this forum(you bastards) I actully did about 6 months of research before I bought my Z. I did research on all cars that I could afford, from sti, mustang, evo. Every comparison i did the 370z had more pros then all them. I have always wanted a Turbo car but i couldn't have been ignorant to actual facts in front of me and all the vehical reviews.

2:Alot of this has to be reviews read and all. To sum it up. 370z looks better and interior is nicer the evo, and STI. Also bang for buck 370>all. TT wise or S/C you get to keep all that and have the top performance you want. From my understanding and reading if you upgrade the turbo's on the evo and the STI you are very limited since the engine saposably can't handle that. We have Z running around on this board pushing over 500 whp and they have been doing it for a little while now. We are starting to learn on this forum that the engines in these cars are built very well and are handling abuse like a champ. In all reality this has to be your decision in what you want. If i was to do it all over again i would do it in a heart beat. If i didnt have the money to do it and I had to buy a car for just the fact of a turbo then i wouldn't have purchased it. TT on my car though always brings a smile to my face and when it comes to getting next to other people, I love how they weren't expecting to hear my blow off valve go off. I hope this helps but once again this is mainly a decision on what you want to do.
Frank

Since you already have the Z by the time you lose money on the trade and upgrade the Evo X or STI you could have gotten the Stillen SC

Or the GTM

So, $10k on Z (assuming I would get GTM SC) will be a better buy than trade-in + EvoX's turbo upgrade?

yes because you will be in your goal. also you will have a nicer looking car imo. Like I said those cars have engine problems once you upgrade the turbo because the internals can't handle. This info came from alot of reading and a buddy that owns A STI and EVO, who is now considering in selling and getting a z to TT
Frank

"Better" is an opinion. I think it would be cheaper, but you got to do the cost comparison

You don't need $10k to get a GTM SC.
$6k SC, $1.5k install... Still plenty left for other add ons...

I had a 450 whp STi with stock internals for years and both the 4g63 and 4b11 Evo engines can handle HUGE power. Afraid you are misinformed re Evo engines.

Ok well thank you for correcting me. Like I said I was going based off what others said and from things i read, and I made sure to include that when i put that info in the post.
Frank

Would I not need an oil cooler and clutch upgrade?

Yes and at some point.
This car will 100% need a solid oil cooler with any form of forced induction. The clutch will need to be replaced, but not required when you first add a SC or TT. If you go TT I would advise to do it then as the engine is already out of the car.

True so add another $2k... Ok you'll be down $10k if you include everything. :)
I was just talking about the SC, supporting mods would have to go on both cars.

:iagree::iagree::iagree:

They are going to charge the same regardless if engine is out or not. There are a few of us running around with stock clutch for a little while now with no issues. So don't let that be a deal breaker.
Frank

I would pick a Z over any car. I have had alot of dealing with nissan built cars and the motors can take alot. If money is a problem then maybe look into a 300zx. I have a 300zx and a 370z. Drag racing wise the 370z can not compair witht the 300zx. But I have only had my 370z for a few months. I have alot of time in my 300zx. Slowly I'm warming up to the 370z. I'm planning a Stage 4 GTM build for my 370z in July. So maybe then it can hang with my 300zx. But will see..... It all comes down to which car do you like better. Cause you dont want to put the time and money in modding a car and then not like it. I have loved Z's scents I was a kid, I know not along time I'm only 22. But still I will keep both my Z's as long as I'm alive they are great cars. But thats just what I prefer.....

I'm in the same boat. I had the 350Z for 6 years, and the only major mods were intakes, wheels, and side skirts. With the 370Z, I bought a nice exhaust (first ever), and then some nice wheels to compliment the look. FI is definitely in the plans next year once I get things planned with a shop... money-wise, it's a pinch, but I would like to enjoy the toys while I'm still young.

I have not upgraded clutch nor an oil cooler... I do have a 450whp DD
Evo X is 300lbs heavier btw with 3 diffs to loser your power though.
before the Z i had an EVO 8 with FP red turbo putting down 450whp also and I wouldn't go back. I'll never own another 4banger. 3.7L full boost at 3.5k < 2.0 full boost at 5k rpm

No offense, but asking members of a 370Z forum as to what car you think you should go with isn't exactly an impartial way to conduct a consensus. If you were to ask your initial question on either an STi or EVO forum they'd all tell you to go with those cars respectively.

Perhaps you need to be asking around on various forums as well, if you haven't already done so.

Just my two cents, don't hate me. :wtf2:

4wd is nice, 2wd is fun. the both cost a lot don't kid yourself, but the z does look like sex. unbiased though, if you are a one car guy go with the 4 door, if you have questionable roads, or travel north during the winter awd hands down, if you don't really know how to drive that well but still want to go fast the 4wd is MUCH easier to control.

Agreed. People here by-and-large have made their choice and that will be reflected in their answers. I actually surf this and Evo forums because I am trying to decide between the two, and I am torn. I think the 370Z is a better looking car hands-down. However, living in CA I have to deal with CARB/SMOG and an EVO is much easier to mod under the radar. Furthermore, I have done a lot of track and driving events over the years and I want a FI car that can handle track abuse. That's one place that the 370Z still makes me nervous because it seems that FI 370Zs have cooling problems. The EVO is a rockstar on the track, period. And a stock EVO X would probably handle an FI 370Z all day on a track (not dragstrip) because it's easier to put the power to the pavement with a very sophisticated AWD system, 300 extra lbs notwithstanding.

Z owns the X in stock from on any track.. check out C&D lighting lap if you like. If you got 30-40k to burn why not get a used 2000-04 911 turbo

I don't believe that, and I don't believe that a FI 370Z will last half as long on a track without overheating, but I am not going to get into a he-said/she-said argument with you.

Regarding the 996 turbo, I have actually thought about it a lot. The thing is, it's very hard to buy the old non-variable vane turbos knowing how good the new ones are. That and I want a car a little newer.