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SwedeZ 05-27-2021 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ZontheRocks (Post 3996386)
Not just a few, but a few dozen, you say?

:woot:

I look forward to the reviews. Keep it up.

I'll make sure to post a review once mine is done. My install will probably be delayed compared to others, though, as I need my kit shipped to Europe. Not sure how long that takes. 2 weeks of total shipping time would be my guess.

Spooler 05-27-2021 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SwedeZ (Post 3996482)
Yeah, I didn't have my engine rebuilt with upgraded parts in the name of my initial 525whp goal, but a few years down the road, I might see myself with a desire to move towards 700whp - depending on how it behaves on the road with 525. Plus, I've never owned a car with more than 350whp. I'll prob get myself in trouble jumping instantly to twice that power. :driving:

My car will only be for normal road use and will never see the strip or track, so if it turns out it struggles with grip at 525 on the road, I'll probably just leave it at that power level. I don't want to be spinning the wheels all day long in 3rd gear and up.

700whp is not a problem with the correct mods and tire. 1st and 2nd are the only useless gears. Go above 700whp and that is where it starts getting interesting. You have to learn to drive with your right foot. Starting off at a lower level is the right approach to not get in over your head. What's nothing to me may scare the crap out of someone else.

ilikebacon 06-17-2021 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackElectric (Post 3986979)
Nice to see conaiderations for CARB/emission compliance. Are you actually going to get the kit CARB tested for those in california, and elsewhere with strict emissions compliance?

Also what are we looking at in terms of boost figures, and will there be an option for conversion from your old kit?

I second this, as a resident of the "great" state of california

LordJhase 06-29-2021 08:00 AM

What are the advantages of going with Rotrex over a Procharger unit?

TopgunZ 06-29-2021 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LordJhase (Post 4000451)
What are the advantages of going with Rotrex over a Procharger unit?

All of that information is on the first 2 posts of the thread.

LordJhase 06-29-2021 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 4000485)
All of that information is on the first 2 posts of the thread.

I see rotorex vs vortech

Ghostvette 06-30-2021 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by LordJhase (Post 4000511)
I see rotorex vs vortech

vortech = procharger. They are similar systems. Some simple research would have told you that. :tiphat:

cgr406 06-30-2021 08:05 AM

Hi Aaron, any word on pricing & availability of kits to convert Ace setups to this one?

LordJhase 06-30-2021 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 4000619)
vortech = procharger. They are similar systems. Some simple research would have told you that. :tiphat:

Isn't a part of research asking questions? Why not get it from the experts ? Oh alright then

Ghostvette 06-30-2021 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LordJhase (Post 4000625)
Isn't a part of research asking questions? Why not get it from the experts ? Oh alright then

Yes, but when you ask questions that can be answered via Google search and then the first post of the thread, you identify yourself as a lazy person. If you had said, 'I read xxxxx and xxxxx, and I don't understand 'yyyyy' and 'zzzzz', you might get a different response. It's like asking 'what kind of oil should I use in my car', when there are easily half a dozen threads on this forum about that topic. :icon14:

That's okay, continue to be lazy. We like lazy people here. :bowrofl:

Zingston 06-30-2021 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 4000630)
Yes, but when you ask questions that can be answered via Google search and then the first post of the thread, you identify yourself as a lazy person. If you had said, 'I read xxxxx and xxxxx, and I don't understand 'yyyyy' and 'zzzzz', you might get a different response. It's like asking 'what kind of oil should I use in my car', when there are easily half a dozen threads on this forum about that topic. :icon14:

That's okay, continue to be lazy. We like lazy people here. :bowrofl:




Half dozen? More like 10 dozen. :rofl2:

SouthArk370Z 06-30-2021 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LordJhase (Post 4000625)
Isn't a part of research asking questions? Why not get it from the experts ? Oh alright then

The "experts" have already answered your question; many times (see Ghostvette's reply above). ;)

TopgunZ 06-30-2021 06:06 PM

It's a fair question. All that needs to be said is that they are so similar it is comparing apples to apples.

SpoolyD@SZR 07-02-2021 04:50 PM

Got a customer that's excited to get his soon. Looking forward to tuning it on the dyno.

Birdiev 07-08-2021 10:03 PM

I'm excited as well. Please let us know when they get shipped out. Will be sitting outside waiting for the kit to arrive.

TopgunZ 07-12-2021 07:31 AM

Multiple kits will be shipping this week. I will be shipping as "Hold at Fedex location" closest to the provided address. This protects both parties from porch pirates and over handling. I have seen how FedEx and UPS deliver heavy boxes. They usually slam them down on the cement approach and then if nobody is home they slam them back into the truck and repeat the cycle.

Rusty 07-12-2021 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 4002130)
Multiple kits will be shipping this week. I will be shipping as "Hold at Fedex location" closest to the provided address. This protects both parties from porch pirates and over handling. I have seen how FedEx and UPS deliver heavy boxes. They usually slam them down on the cement approach and then if nobody is home they slam them back into the truck and repeat the cycle.

You should see how they throw them on the truck! :eek:

TopgunZ 07-12-2021 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 4002133)
You should see how they throw them on the truck! :eek:

Yes, when loading the trucks to set them up for delivery for the day, it gets ugly. This is why the approach I am taking just makes sense to reduce any issues.

cgr406 07-18-2021 08:19 PM

Hi Aaron, any word on pricing & availability of kits to convert Ace setups to this one?

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TopgunZ 07-20-2021 12:29 PM

Here are some highlights of the new Topgun Speedworks ROTREX kit vs the vortech setups.

Obviously belt slip is a big concern for the supercharger crews. If you know anything of the other setups out there then it's easy to agree. We have vetted out any and all belt slip even when making up to 22psi of boost!

Here are a few pictures of our routing vs the vortech routing on the serpentine side. As you can see there is much more wrap around the drive belt where slip commonly occurs. We also use custom high diameter idlers which reduces belt wear and dust.

Below you can see we also have increased the supercharger side belt from 8 rib to 10 rib. This obviously creates much more grip. More on the ease of adjustability in a later post.

RIP belt slip!!!!

http://www.the370z.com/members/topgu...23082726-n.jpg


http://www.the370z.com/members/topgu...68531489-n.jpg


http://www.the370z.com/members/topgu...93154392-n.jpg


http://www.the370z.com/members/topgu...87569086-n.jpg

TopgunZ 07-20-2021 12:31 PM

More highlights of the ROTREX kit.

It will take you longer to find your Allen wrench then to adjust the idler. Literally 10 second adjustment!

Most guys remove the supercharger on vortech setups. If not be prepared to say 20 new swear words and come out with beef jerky hand.

This design is built for simplicity and end user in mind.

http://www.the370z.com/members/topgu...79966293-n.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/topgu...72739932-n.jpg

Kordain 07-21-2021 09:23 PM

93 Oct 340lph fuel pump not for sale by speedworks?
 
Looking good Aaron!

I was just putting the pricing together for this and noticed even though the web page says the 93 Oct 500hp components are all available on the main page there is no 340lph pump/kit/V stabilizer on there. Just the 450 for E85.

Am I missing something?

Cheers :)

FX-32 07-28-2021 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cgr406 (Post 4003183)
Hi Aaron, any word on pricing & availability of kits to convert Ace setups to this one?

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+1 On this, I really want to upgrade to this new kit from the ACE kit.
I am really pleased with the ACE kit, but if I can "move the graph to the left" and put a full filter as well, then I would like to have the new kit.

TopgunZ 07-28-2021 08:32 AM

Unfortunately, I am no longer offering the buyback option. This is due to the fact that it caused me way to many headaches.

Of the 3 kits I received back so far, one was packed HORRIBLY and the bracket punched out the sidewall of the box and I had to replace it (at my cost). One did not have the shipping plug inserted instead of the vent plug and the whole box and unit was covered in oil, which I had clean and replace (at my cost). One did not have all of the components in it i had asked to be returned. I hope you can understand that I cannot continue to deal with this.

If you want the Rotrex kit you will need to purchase it from me. I can offer discounts to repeat customers. If you want to save on install then you just replace the components that need to be replaced and sell the ACE kit as a used kit with lots of brand new parts.

Theres really only 3 parts that change. It is the main bracket with SC attached already, SC charge pipe (that goes across the engine bay) and the driver side intake pipe. And a couple of couplers.

So theres no need to touch the intercooler, passenger piping, coolant tank system, etc...

Elmo370z 07-28-2021 10:57 AM

What a bunch of di**. Now you can thank the 3 tool bags for ruining for you all

FX-32 07-28-2021 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 4004531)
Unfortunately, I am no longer offering the buyback option. This is due to the fact that it caused me way to many headaches.

Of the 3 kits I received back so far, one was packed HORRIBLY and the bracket punched out the sidewall of the box and I had to replace it (at my cost). One did not have the shipping plug inserted instead of the vent plug and the whole box and unit was covered in oil, which I had clean and replace (at my cost). One did not have all of the components in it i had asked to be returned. I hope you can understand that I cannot continue to deal with this.

If you want the Rotrex kit you will need to purchase it from me. I can offer discounts to repeat customers. If you want to save on install then you just replace the components that need to be replaced and sell the ACE kit as a used kit with lots of brand new parts.

Theres really only 3 parts that change. It is the main bracket with SC attached already, SC charge pipe (that goes across the engine bay) and the driver side intake pipe. And a couple of couplers.

So theres no need to touch the intercooler, passenger piping, coolant tank system, etc...

Wow that's too bad, people ship out thing with no care at all.

Z1Motorsports offers NO REFUND if you send back a core (ie: upper intake manifold for porting service) that arrives damaged due to bad packaging.
Please consider doing something like that, everything properly detailed. Now with this bad experience you can discount a lot if it's oil in the packaging and zero refund if damaged. Saying that beforehand will ensure that the customers put a bit of effort to do thing right when sending it back to you.
When money penalty is involved things change.

Spooler 07-28-2021 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FX-32 (Post 4004571)
Wow that's too bad, people ship out thing with no care at all.

Z1Motorsports offers NO REFUND if you send back a core (ie: upper intake manifold for porting service) that arrives damaged due to bad packaging.
Please consider doing something like that, everything properly detailed. Now with this bad experience you can discount a lot if it's oil in the packaging and zero refund if damaged. Saying that beforehand will ensure that the customers put a bit of effort to do thing right when sending it back to you.
When money penalty is involved things change.

I think he is done with that. Can't blame him.

takemorepills 07-30-2021 04:28 PM

Honestly, as a "small business" operator myself, I cringed when I saw TopGunz offering a buyback!
The logistics of it are not worth it.

takemorepills 07-30-2021 04:31 PM

Is anyone getting the Rotrex kit for a 7AT and running moderate power gains?

I'm looking to see the outcome of a kit that is installed on a 7AT car, tuned primarily for 91, runs full air intake filter and will be daily driven.

I know most people getting this kit will be installing it on upgraded 6MT cars and going all-out (jealous!) but I am hoping that someone is going for a more restrained approach on a 7AT car that I can follow.

FrankEtier 07-30-2021 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by takemorepills (Post 4004870)
Is anyone getting the Rotrex kit for a 7AT and running moderate power gains?

I'm looking to see the outcome of a kit that is installed on a 7AT car, tuned primarily for 91, runs full air intake filter and will be daily driven.

I know most people getting this kit will be installing it on upgraded 6MT cars and going all-out (jealous!) but I am hoping that someone is going for a more restrained approach on a 7AT car that I can follow.

I’m waiting on my kit, hopefully shipping soon!

Will be installed on 2014 7AT(fast intentions flex plate) car with stock engine, not a daily driver.
Full CJM fuel return system/billet rails with 450 pump and ID 1300 injectors. Also will have flex fuel. Starting out with just a 93 pump gas tune then bringing in the E85 afterwards.

Hoping for around 550wheel on pump and 600 on E85, I feel like that is moderate compared to what Topgunz says this is capable of. Currently have all parts ready for install other than Topgunz Kit.

takemorepills 07-30-2021 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankEtier (Post 4004883)
I’m waiting on my kit, hopefully shipping soon!

Will be installed on 2014 7AT(fast intentions flex plate) car with stock engine, not a daily driver.
Full CJM fuel return system/billet rails with 450 pump and ID 1300 injectors. Also will have flex fuel. Starting out with just a 93 pump gas tune then bringing in the E85 afterwards.

Hoping for around 550wheel on pump and 600 on E85, I feel like that is moderate compared to what Topgunz says this is capable of. Currently have all parts ready for install other than Topgunz Kit.

Nice, will you be posting your install and results on here?

I can only get 91 in my state, and anywhere from 400 to 450whp would be fine for me. I don't want to push the 7AT too hard.
I had a 2016 GTI that lost it's DSG transmission at 20K miles with a Stage 1 tune, those DSGs were supposed to be "bulletproof" but that was an eye opener!

GrayGhost 08-03-2021 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by takemorepills (Post 4004869)
Honestly, as a "small business" operator myself, I cringed when I saw TopGunz offering a buyback!
The logistics of it are not worth it.


Quote:

Originally Posted by takemorepills (Post 4004869)
Honestly, as a "small business" operator myself, I cringed when I saw TopGunz offering a buyback!
The logistics of it are not worth it.


Correct me if I’m wrong Topgunz, but I don’t think he did it for money but more for customer satisfaction. The buyback was only on the ACE kit that came out a few months before and I can imagine buyers being pretty pissed to see a superior product come out right after they bought the already latest and greatest. It’s unfortunate those clowns had to ruin it


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TopgunZ 08-03-2021 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GrayGhost (Post 4005298)
Correct me if I’m wrong Topgunz, but I don’t think he did it for money but more for customer satisfaction. The buyback was only on the ACE kit that came out a few months before and I can imagine buyers being pretty pissed to see a superior product come out right after they bought the already latest and greatest. It’s unfortunate those clowns had to ruin it


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This....

TopgunZ 08-03-2021 02:45 PM

In other news, we just sent a kit out the door to a big name shop that is going to push this thing hard. I cant wait to see what they can do with this monster. Buckle up!

@Dynosty

cgr406 08-04-2021 02:19 PM

OK, so no buyback program. I get that. But what is the pricing and availability for the parts needed to convert from an ACE kit?

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DUSHER 08-04-2021 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cgr406 (Post 4005427)
OK, so no buyback program. I get that. But what is the pricing and availability for the parts needed to convert from an ACE kit?

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INB4 he refers you to page 15 post #224 :rofl2:

cgr406 08-05-2021 07:58 AM

Yes, I've seen that. It says basically buy a whole new kit and sell what u don't need. Of course, thats always been an option, from day one. I'm trying to understand what the cost would be to get just the parts needed to convert, similar to what I did in converting from the Gen 1 kit to the Gen 2 (ACE) kit.

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TopgunZ 08-05-2021 09:14 AM

It would be $5150 to send out everything you need to turn the ACE kit into a Rotrex kit.

Remember, this is an entirely new head unit (MSRP $2800) with the oiling system ($3250 msrp total) , new bracket with all new pulleys and new belt setup. New aluminum cast driver side intake, charge pipe, SC intake with filter, boost control hardware.

cgr406 08-05-2021 10:37 AM

Thank you Aaron.

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NorthStyle 08-05-2021 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 4005545)
It would be $5150 to send out everything you need to turn the ACE kit into a Rotrex kit.

Remember, this is an entirely new head unit (MSRP $2800) with the oiling system ($3250 msrp total) , new bracket with all new pulleys and new belt setup. New aluminum cast driver side intake, charge pipe, SC intake with filter, boost control hardware.

TopgunZ would it be possible to combine the boost control function you've incorporated in the Rotrex with with the SpecialtyZ solenoid to control it through Ecutek? I'm not sure if it's a wastegate/ebc or whatever, so not sure what is/isn't possible with it.


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