It is done. Standby for numbers....
 

Way back when I started my build over. The changes were:

IPP Stage 2 Longblock With C2 cams 10:1 compression
1300 ID injectors
CJM S1SE fuel system
E85 conversion
Precision 6870 turbo
Motordyne Exhaust
HKS Hipermax SP Coilovers
Z1 2 piece rotors
Ecutek with Boost by ECU tuned by Seb
Coolerworx Shifter
Rays 57CRs
RE11 f R888R r (Spare rear with RE11 for non beast mode days )

The longblock itself has moly coat upgrades , full ARP L19 package upgrades throughout and cometic head gasket ( Because apparently Cosworth discontinued our gaskets. )

The build itself went through it's share of mishaps and mistakes but after all the little things were sorted tuning began with Seb. After what felt like 100 logs it was finished last week.

I have 4 Maps only Map 1 is a 93 octane map and also Flex capable. Maps 2-4 are Flex only. Toward the end Seb asked how far I intended to go and I said 18psi or 800rwhp capable. I sent that log and we ended up near 20psi with a 23psi boost cut. At that level what I know for fact now is it's enough to skate away from a Challenger Hellcat like it had a Hyundai badge.

Tomorrow morning at 9 the car will be on the dyno at Titan to get numbers for each map. Currently reading E78 as it has since the start of tuning map 4. Seb cautiously asked if I wanted continue upward from 20psi because there was a bit more on the table with AFRs but I tapped out.

So tomorrow will be the tale of the tape. I'll be doing a video of the dyno run and posting the results as well.

I'd like to thank Kyle from IPP, Charles at CJM for putting up with me and for digging me out of holes, Seb for the tune and logical tuning guidance, Sasha for building a righteous turbo kit and Elmo for being the coin toss guy when I was deciding on parts.

Stay tuned for numbers.

Hope all goes well. Fingers crossed for you. What compression ratio did you go with? 10:1, I see it now.

Awwws shucks

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368whp,

Probation

No license for a while if you're lucky. :rofl2:

Congrats and looking forward to seeing your numbers.

can't wait to see what you make on the different maps!

I'm settled in and ready for some dyno graph porn.

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I see you are on here, spill the beans.

Waiting to get with Seb. Something needs to be sorted. I can show you Map 1 10psi but the other three I have to figure some things out.

that's nice power for pump gas

That's part of the problem, thats 10psi on flex reading E78.

So that is your issue, the power is just reading low. 5xxhp at 10psi is not bad no matter the fuel you are using.

My apologies, I saw map 1 was for 93 (with flex option) and assumed those results were 93oct

Nah trust me on this one. Remember I'm holding 4 more runs in my pocket waiting on a consult. That said, the other power is nothing to sneeze at, it's just not normal.

551hp at 10psi of boost and 10:1 compression is very good. It normaly takes 11-11.5 psi of boost on an 11:1 compression motor to make around 585hp.

Did you ever test for a boost leak? Something that should always be done on a new build.

Not thinking it's a boost leak , yet. Still waiting for Seb to check out the log and the dyno graphs. I have a suspicion but I'll bounce it off of Seb before bringing it into the light. Just respect for my tuner and his opinion.

That is the only bad thing about having it remote tuned. It takes more time. I am sure not worried or saying anything bad about Seb's tuning. He is the man with these cars. IMHO, the best place for a car to be tuned is on a chassis dyno. If my car was done, I would be willing to fly him out here to tune my car. Just keep that in mind. I am not far from you.

I actually wanted to fly him here. I still have faith. My suspicion has to do with things outside the tune.

Well hang on. We may can do this together if need be. He is just a busy man. I am sure my tune from MA will be good. I just feel like a tune from Seb will be perfect and that is more up my alley. I am a perfectionist like it or not.

Alright folks time for full disclosure amongst the wolves.
After forwarding the run files to Seb it was definitive that there was wheel slip on every run. Surprisingly the highest amount of slip was on Run 1 at 10psi. Seb recommended that the runs be made in 5th gear and not 4th and also to use VHT on the drums to mitigate slip.
The wrench in my whole situation is another "Why me god" circumstance. During the completion of the longblock I admittedly broke a cardinal rule of VQ or any build for that matter. I allowed someone unfamiliar with our platforms to perform the work. What that led to is during the course of install when the VVEL solenoids were swapped over the installer basically did a scientific wild *** guess as to the synchronization of the solenoids. That problem is almost impossible to tell when the car is running but very evident on start. When I realized it I was disgusted but pushed through with tuning. Seb tried to work it out through the tune but it's still there in the form of very hard starting and catching a start on the first try is like hitting the lottery. This will be fixed soon as I've found a connection with the Consult needed to remedy.
I modeled my build on Diabels but left out a few things which I'll be changing to. First I have the 1.15ar housing which will be going to 1.32 and secondly I want to bump the downpipe to 3.5 from 3". At that point with the corrections the car will definitely be where it should.
So here are what you all really want.
On a side note: The car hit a max boost of 18.3 on the dyno , the only times it's gone to the 20psi in map 4 is on street pulls. Elmo got a taste of 20psi , with a peak of 21.4 .
Ok......graphs , discussions and slaps on the head.

Dammit!! Had to do a return to amazon and they wanted proof. Heres runs 4 and 5.

Glad you got it figured out! The VVEL motor part sucks though.

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Get her fixed, go back, and try again. Stick with it.

It's still a beast Spooler. Just not a perfect predator......yet.

Fixing Gremlins is part of any build. Sometimes they are big Gremilins and sometimes they are small little monkeys that aggravate you.

That just gives us more time for a Seb collaboration. Besides , if it was easy everyone would have a beast.

That is much better than the first couple of runs. Once the 1.32 a/r turbine is in, that HP curve will continue to go straight up past the 6,000 RPM mark. Resolving the VVEL issus will help as well.

You may need to drop Jon at MA-Motorsports an email to help get all your issues resolved. I am guessing you are still struggling to get your car fixed.
In other words, take your car to them.

He’s on probation.

Still????? WOW. His car can sit at my house and I can charge him money to work on it and not do anything.

Actually it's at Derek Heims. The VVEL solenoids have been adjusted. They were at .150 on one side and .200 on the other. So that was an issue with them trying to play catch up. Next up is the surge tank install with twin 450s along with the Wavetrac , diff and subframe bushings. As soon as that is finished I'll swap out the housing and finish up tuning. Just took awhile because Derek was out of town for two weeks.

Hmm, I guess you still are on probation.

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