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Terminal Doc 07-08-2018 05:48 AM

Single Turbo to Twin Turbo Upgrade?
 
Hello everyone,

Hopefully Im not making a repeat thread and tbh this might just common sense, but I've thought about going single turbo, but then eventually upgrading to twin turbo. Ive been trying to research it everywhere but have no found a solid answer. Really Im looking for:

Single Top Mount vs Single Mid Mount ease of upgrade to Twins?

Cost?

What piping or extras will I need to make it happen?

Will there be welding required?

Will it vary between the companies or will there be an impact if they don't have the required items to make this happen?

Thank you for your assistance.

NorthStyle 07-08-2018 06:32 AM

Do you like wasting money unnecessarily? Because you're about to do so. If you want to boost your Z, do it with whatever you want the end result to be even if it takes longer to save up or prepare for it initially.

Most of the single kits run $7K+ with the twin kits around $9K+. Unless you're going to install them yourself, you're going to lose quite a bit of money on paying someone to install a single kit, uninstall that kit later down the road, then install the twin kit. After that, you're going to lose thousands selling the kit used. Also, none of the kits are setup the same because they all place the turbo in a different section of the car with the exception of the twin kits but they don't use the same turbos or manifolds... So, with the exception of the clutch, fuel system (dependent on power goals), exhaust (maybe), gauges, and other supporting mods, most parts of the kits themselves aren't transferable.

I could be wrong, but it doesn't appear as if you're too familiar with our platform. You should read through some of the installs on the Member's Gallery sub-forum and do research on the individual kits. Soho is located in NC and would be a great place to contact for information, parts and installations (they have also recently released a single kit that they have been developing for a while).

I hope some of this helps.

Terminal Doc 07-08-2018 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorthStyle (Post 3769929)
Do you like wasting money unnecessarily? Because you're about to do so. If you want to boost your Z, do it with whatever you want the end result to be even if it takes longer to save up or prepare for it initially.

Most of the single kits run $7K+ with the twin kits around $9K+. Unless you're going to install them yourself, you're going to lose quite a bit of money on paying someone to install a single kit, uninstall that kit later down the road, then install the twin kit. After that, you're going to lose thousands selling the kit used. Also, none of the kits are setup the same because they all place the turbo in a different section of the car with the exception of the twin kits but they don't use the same turbos or manifolds... So, with the exception of the clutch, fuel system (dependent on power goals), exhaust (maybe), gauges, and other supporting mods, most parts of the kits themselves aren't transferable.

I could be wrong, but it doesn't appear as if you're too familiar with our platform. You should read through some of the installs on the Member's Gallery sub-forum and do research on the individual kits. Soho is located in NC and would be a great place to contact for information, parts and installations (they have also recently released a single kit that they have been developing for a while).

I hope some of this helps.

Yeah I was getting at the transfer part- ish. I have no intention of buying and selling a kit as I dont have that kind of money to throw around like pocket change. I do however plan on saving a bit more for a kit. (Looking at that golden 500 WHP minimum) I was just asking if I could essentially "continue the work" from a single turbo to a twin; but I understand. Yes I'm quite new but I've been doing research and keeping up before I even bought my Z. Was just curious. Guess I'll call up SOHO later this fall since I wont be around until then. Thanks for the info.

jchammond 07-08-2018 06:50 AM

Yep; as NorthStyle said,,,only a handful of companies offering kits & they focus on their single or twin setups...totally different mounting of everything.
I don’t know them all:
Single kits: Boosted Performance,SoHo Motorsports
Twin kits : Fast Intentions,AAM,Greddy
Read through the threads & all the Pro’s & Con’s of each.
With you having an 09’...you could possibly need a rebuild before installation.
Also as mentioned- Soho is the nearest to you & could answer these questions, as he’s coming out with another power-level of his single kit.

jchammond 07-08-2018 06:54 AM

Also from speaking with a friend of mine who’s installing his on Boosted Performance kit- the 2.5” Fast Intentions exhaust is a good size & they offer a connection pipe for it.
500whp is made easy from a single kit.

Terminal Doc 07-08-2018 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3769932)
Yep; as NorthStyle said,,,only a handful of companies offering kits & they focus on their single or twin setups...totally different mounting of everything.
I donít know them all:
Single kits: Boosted Performance,SoHo Motorsports
Twin kits : Fast Intentions,AAM,Greddy
Read through the threads & all the Proís & Conís of each.
With you having an 09í...you could possibly need a rebuild before installation.
Also as mentioned- Soho is the nearest to you & could answer these questions, as heís coming out with another power-level of his single kit.

Ahh, I guess it was just wishful thinking. Yeah I've looked through all of them before and keep doing so. Kinda leaning towards AAM since F.I would take a bit longer to save up for. Ive compared the Stillen SC too but now its just preference. TopGunz's Air to Air + SC is a solid choice too. My Z is in pretty good shape. Less than 20k miles on it so I should be good for a bit but I thought about doing rods and pistons just to get it done and feel safer.

jchammond 07-08-2018 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terminal Doc (Post 3769936)
Ahh, I guess it was just wishful thinking. Yeah I've looked through all of them before and keep doing so. Kinda leaning towards AAM since F.I would take a bit longer to save up for. Ive compared the Stillen SC too but now its just preference. TopGunz's Air to Air + SC is a solid choice too. My Z is in pretty good shape. Less than 20k miles on it so I should be good for a bit but I thought about doing rods and pistons just to get it done and feel safer.

As far as the best reviews on whatís been working well.
Single: Boosted Performance
Twin : Fast Intentions
SC : TopGunZ
Those have been proven over & over!
:)

jchammond 07-08-2018 07:15 AM

Just be ready to shred more rubber w/any of those!

Terminal Doc 07-08-2018 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3769937)
As far as the best reviews on whatís been working well.
Single: Boosted Performance
Twin : Fast Intentions
SC : TopGunZ
Those have been proven over & over!
:)

Awesome! Thanks for breakdown / tips! :tiphat:

BboyZ 07-08-2018 12:51 PM

base on your goal, all mentioned FI systems meet your requirement.
probably think what application you would use the boosted Z and what's your budget.

Spooler 07-08-2018 02:29 PM

You can't just look at the turbo kit and stop. You have to look at all of the supporting mods that need to be done at the same time. The turbo kit is the cheapest part of the upgrade. IF you are not ready for that, then save your money. Don't be that guy who installs a turbo upgrade and several months later looses the engine and can't afford to fix the car.

Boosted Performance 07-09-2018 12:52 AM

Give R/T a call and ask for this deal. Drive away with more than 500whp for $13k, including supporting mods, install and tuning:

https://www.rttuning.com/boosted-per...r-nissan-370z/

Terminal Doc 08-16-2018 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3769989)
You can't just look at the turbo kit and stop. You have to look at all of the supporting mods that need to be done at the same time. The turbo kit is the cheapest part of the upgrade. IF you are not ready for that, then save your money. Don't be that guy who installs a turbo upgrade and several months later looses the engine and can't afford to fix the car.

Yes I understand. This isn't my first turbo car, but it is my first NA to turbo. I understand how supporting mods work. Just wanted to familiarize myself with the F.I on this platform. Thank you for your input everyone.

Elmo370z 08-16-2018 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terminal Doc (Post 3769931)
Yeah I was getting at the transfer part- ish. I have no intention of buying and selling a kit as I dont have that kind of money to throw around like pocket change. I do however plan on saving a bit more for a kit. (Looking at that golden 500 WHP minimum) I was just asking if I could essentially "continue the work" from a single turbo to a twin; but I understand. Yes I'm quite new but I've been doing research and keeping up before I even bought my Z. Was just curious. Guess I'll call up SOHO later this fall since I wont be around until then. Thanks for the info.

Better Also look into a oil galley kit since you have a 09.

Terminal Doc 08-16-2018 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3779218)
Better Also look into a oil galley kit since you have a 09.

Yeah good call. I did a brief search on the overheating issue so I'll look further into that.


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