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redondoaveb 11-01-2017 03:38 PM

Innovate Motorsports ECF-1 gauge
 
Anyone using this Innovate Motorsports ECF-1 (4 in 1) gauge? Just wondering how well it works, if you're happy with it?
ECF-1 (FUEL) Ethanol Content & Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge

Jayhovah 11-02-2017 02:02 PM

Pretty slick.

redondoaveb 11-02-2017 02:41 PM

I was thinking that gauge along with this one and that pretty well covers it.
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Jayhovah 11-02-2017 02:50 PM

You will need a boost gauge... which IMO is the most important gauge when boosted. That being said, I am in the vast minority here on which gauges are actually important. I only run a boost gauge in the pillar and nothing else besides OEM.

edit: I forgot which kit you are running... Supercharged? If supercharged than boost gauge might not even be all that important.

redondoaveb 11-02-2017 02:58 PM

Yep, supercharged, that's why I didn't list a boost gauge. It's probably not a bad idea but I think the afr gauge might be the most important. I'll be on flex fuel that's why I wanted the ethenol content.
I was trying to get the most out of a 2 pod set up.

Senna-F1 11-02-2017 03:05 PM

Will you be able to use one flex fuel sensor for both the gauge and the ecu? I see they sell one w/o the sensor if you already have one. Im assuming its just a matter of sharing the signal by splicing some wires?

redondoaveb 11-02-2017 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Senna-F1 (Post 3704585)
Will you be able to use one flex fuel sensor for both the gauge and the ecu? I see they sell one w/o the sensor if you already have one. Im assuming its just a matter of sharing the signal by splicing some wires?

That I don't know. Sure would make it more convenient.

zer099 11-02-2017 04:40 PM

I've been using an ECF-1 for over a year now with no issues. Re-purposed the fuel pressure sensor to do oil pressure as the G doesn't have an oil pressure gauge. I thought the display would be too small but its actually pretty easy to read at all times of day. Added bonus: if you are ECUTek tuned you can data log the four data-points as well with the ECUTek software.

If you are going to go flex-fuel you will need to wire in the sensor (tap into the EVAP) so you can get the signal to the ECU.

redondoaveb 11-02-2017 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by zer099 (Post 3704604)
I've been using an ECF-1 for over a year now with no issues. Re-purposed the fuel pressure sensor to do oil pressure as the G doesn't have an oil pressure gauge. I thought the display would be too small but its actually pretty easy to read at all times of day. Added bonus: if you are ECUTek tuned you can data log the four data-points as well with the ECUTek software.

If you are going to go flex-fuel you will need to wire in the sensor (tap into the EVAP) so you can get the signal to the ECU.

Thanks for the info. I'll be on ecutek so that's nice to know. What a great idea re-purposing the fuel pressure sensor.

redondoaveb 11-02-2017 08:48 PM

I'm wondering if this gauge might be a better choice instead of the ECF-1?
ECB-1 (BOOST) Ethanol Content & Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge

Senna-F1 11-27-2017 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3704651)
I'm wondering if this gauge might be a better choice instead of the ECF-1?
ECB-1 (BOOST) Ethanol Content & Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge

It and all others are 25% off for cyber Monday with code "tuneyourengine"

redondoaveb 11-27-2017 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Senna-F1 (Post 3710525)
It and all others are 25% off for cyber Monday with code "tuneyourengine"

25%, that's huge! Of course now I wish I would have waited but I already bought the ecb-1. Did you buy a gauge?

Senna-F1 11-27-2017 11:02 PM

Innovate Motorsports ECF-1 gauge
 
I did. Ecb-1


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redondoaveb 11-27-2017 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Senna-F1 (Post 3710530)
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Good choice. :tup:

Senna-F1 11-27-2017 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3710536)
Good choice. :tup:

Hey... have you, or will you be using this gauge to tell your ECU what the E% is? Seb has told me I still need an ECA-2 for ECUTEK. But this gauge will output an analog 0-5v (0-100%E) signal. How are you handling the flex tune/E% with your ECU? Are you buying additional electronics beyond what the ecb-1 comes with?

redondoaveb 11-27-2017 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senna-F1 (Post 3710537)
Hey... have you, or will you be using this gauge to tell your ECU what the E% is? Seb has told me I still need an ECA-2 for ECUTEK. But this gauge will output an analog 0-5v (0-100%E) signal. How are you handling the flex tune/E% with your ECU? Are you buying additional electronics beyond what the ecb-1 comes with?

To be honest, I don't have an answer to any of those questions right now. Since I've got an issue right now with ecutek not supporting my ecu I've just put everything else on hold until I can get a base tune installed. That's something I'll have to discuss with Seb when I take it in for the full tune.

Jayhovah 11-28-2017 12:20 AM

Just curious... why have a full time ethanol content gauge? Ecutek can display ethanol content on the oil temp gauge if you need to check it. Is there a reason you'd want to know all the time?

I ask because I am discussing my E85 upgrade with Seb as well, and I am currently planning to run just the sensor with no gauge.

redondoaveb 11-28-2017 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3710544)
Just curious... why have a full time ethanol content gauge? Ecutek can display ethanol content on the oil temp gauge if you need to check it. Is there a reason you'd want to know all the time?

I ask because I am discussing my E85 upgrade with Seb as well, and I am currently planning to run just the sensor with no gauge.

I just wanted a few different gauges. Water temp, oil pressure, afr and boost. I found a combo water temp/oil pressure gauge and the innovate ecb-1. It's got afr and boost. It just so happens to have ethanol content too. I didn't need it, but what the hell, it came with it. Now I've got everything I want in two gauges.

Senna-F1 11-28-2017 02:49 PM

For me, I am also hoping I don't need to order more flex fuel hardware. This gauge comes with O2 sensor, manifold pressure sensor, flex fuel sensor, and the gauge itself can output e% content via 0-5v analog output (needed by ECU). If you're going flex, you need all those things, and they just happen to be part of a nice gauge.

Seb says Ill still need an ECA-2, but haven't seen why Id need that yet. Just FYI. He's also not a fan of the o2 sensor that comes with the gauge.

TopgunZ 11-28-2017 03:31 PM

If anyone missed the black friday sale I can get these for the prices below:

ECF-1 - $400 Shipped
w/E85 sensor - $440 Shipped

ECB-1 - $360 Shipped
w/E85 Sensor - $400

Senna-F1 11-28-2017 03:52 PM

Dang, Let us know what else you can get Topz. :) Always up for supporting guys like you.

Mark

redondoaveb 11-28-2017 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Senna-F1 (Post 3710713)
For me, I am also hoping I don't need to order more flex fuel hardware. This gauge comes with O2 sensor, manifold pressure sensor, flex fuel sensor, and the gauge itself can output e% content via 0-5v analog output (needed by ECU). If you're going flex, you need all those things, and they just happen to be part of a nice gauge.

Seb says Ill still need an ECA-2, but haven't seen why Id need that yet. Just FYI. He's also not a fan of the sensor that comes with the gauge.

I've already got the ECA-2 installed so I won't be using the sensor supplied with the ECB-1 gauge. I agree with you, the ECB-1 should take the place of the ECA-2. My ECA-2 was ordered prior to me purchasing the ECB-1.

Girald 02-24-2018 10:18 PM

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Electrify904 08-23-2018 06:02 PM

Reviving this thread. Did anyone get anymore clarification if the ECA-2 is needed even though the ECB-1 has an ethanol sensor? I'm planning to run the Innovate SCG-1 gauge for boost and AFR and possibly the MTX-D for ethanol content with the sensor.


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