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Jayhovah 04-27-2017 11:55 AM

Based on the discussion in this thread, Chase, I think you should probably just add some turbos. :tup:

Kzonts 04-27-2017 11:59 AM

Bringing up the GTR exhaust again, just as an example. It has two sets of cats and a "Y" pipe, etc... Hell, if it takes this much engineering to reduce the sound, just remove the SC. You built a race car and it comes with a certain decibal level... LOL

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2867/...77688f_z_d.jpg

MoulaZ 04-27-2017 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcfromfl (Post 3646173)
When you say that "they didn't have too much of an effect," do you mean on boost pressures (i.e. restricting the exhaust and increasing boost), or on sound levels, or both?

Sound level. Didn't notice any difference in power/boost at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmroy6 (Post 3646189)
GESI makes a nice high quality drop in cat that will withstand the high egts from boost. i know Seb tuned a nismo 370z with these cats on a stillen sc and had good results.

link https://www.vibrantperformance.com/c...Path=1527_1326

Jeez, for those prices you might as well just buy another whole system! :confused:

Krylon 04-27-2017 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmroy6 (Post 3646189)
GESI makes a nice high quality drop in cat that will withstand the high egts from boost. i know Seb tuned a nismo 370z with these cats on a stillen sc and had good results.

link https://www.vibrantperformance.com/c...Path=1527_1326

I've got 2 Vibrant GESI 7530's. They are placed at the end of the downpipes close to the flange.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoulaZ
Jeez, for those prices you might as well just buy another whole system!

It hurt the wallet but I'm hoping to not have to replace these. Sounds good with a 3" exhaust, etc.

ChaseZ 04-27-2017 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3646194)
Based on the discussion in this thread, Chase, I think you should probably just add some turbos. :tup:

Sounds good. Send me yours :tup:

Boosted Performance 04-28-2017 12:14 AM

I built this a long time ago for my 350Z:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps38034bdd.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps1df5f7db.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps6b092cbd.jpg

The two mufflers in the rear were very large straight flow through design, and for that reason along with the turbo, the exhaust was as quiet as stock. This is with aftermarket equal length headers, and of course no catalytic converters.

I have since built this:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...pslijhbqjm.jpg


3.5" piping from where the OEM Y-pipe would end, splitting in to dual 3". This is all aluminium, and weighs in at 12lbs. It is of course louder, but not as loud as one would think.

Also did a single 3.5", which is a bit more rowdy :) it came in at about 8lbs :

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...pscmtlm5ad.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps1kc9x1em.jpg


Sound clip of the single 3.5" splitting in to dual 3.0"

http://vid137.photobucket.com/albums...psueffzhrq.mp4

Sound clip while on the lift single 3.5":

http://vid137.photobucket.com/albums...pscleukp0r.mp4

MoulaZ 04-28-2017 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 3646496)
I built this a long time ago for my 350Z:

The two mufflers in the rear were very large straight flow through design, and for that reason along with the turbo, the exhaust was as quiet as stock. This is with aftermarket equal length headers, and of course no catalytic converters.

I have since built this:



3.5" piping from where the OEM Y-pipe would end, splitting in to dual 3". This is all aluminium, and weighs in at 12lbs. It is of course louder, but not as loud as one would think.

Also did a single 3.5", which is a bit more rowdy :) it came in at about 8lbs :




Sound clip of the single 3.5" splitting in to dual 3.0"

http://vid137.photobucket.com/albums...psueffzhrq.mp4

Sound clip while on the lift single 3.5":

http://vid137.photobucket.com/albums...pscleukp0r.mp4

Love that first one, any clips of that one?

And for the size I was expecting a lot more noise for those last two. Nice work!

I'm waiting to finish rebuilding my SC, before I do another recording under the same circumstances of my pre-SC recordings for a reasonable comparison. Right now the car starts, but the SC is on my bench awaiting new seals & bearings hah.

Boosted Performance 04-28-2017 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoulaZ (Post 3646501)
Love that first one, any clips of that one?

And for the size I was expecting a lot more noise for those last two. Nice work!

I'm waiting to finish rebuilding my SC, before I do another recording under the same circumstances of my pre-SC recordings for a reasonable comparison. Right now the car starts, but the SC is on my bench awaiting new seals & bearings hah.

Sorry, don't have sounds clips of the first one. It is basically stock sounding. With that exhaust, all you hear is the turbo.

ChaseZ 04-28-2017 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoulaZ (Post 3646501)
I'm waiting to finish rebuilding my SC, before I do another recording under the same circumstances of my pre-SC recordings for a reasonable comparison. Right now the car starts, but the SC is on my bench awaiting new seals & bearings hah.

Ditto. Got my new seals and bearings here just need to get to the R&R.

ChaseZ 04-28-2017 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 3646496)
( Click to show/hide )
I built this a long time ago for my 350Z:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps38034bdd.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps1df5f7db.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps6b092cbd.jpg
The two mufflers in the rear were very large straight flow through design, and for that reason along with the turbo, the exhaust was as quiet as stock. This is with aftermarket equal length headers, and of course no catalytic converters.

I have since built this:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...pslijhbqjm.jpg


3.5" piping from where the OEM Y-pipe would end, splitting in to dual 3". This is all aluminium, and weighs in at 12lbs. It is of course louder, but not as loud as one would think.
( Click to show/hide )

Also did a single 3.5", which is a bit more rowdy :) it came in at about 8lbs :

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...pscmtlm5ad.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps1kc9x1em.jpg


Sound clip of the single 3.5" splitting in to dual 3.0"

http://vid137.photobucket.com/albums...psueffzhrq.mp4

Maybe I need a 3" test pipe instead of 2.5

Or bring my car up a couple days before seb's dyno day in June and you can whip me up an exhaust like that one..

TopgunZ 04-28-2017 07:47 AM

Dang Sasha. You should start a BP exhaust option with your kits, or others. Those look great!

Boosted Performance 04-28-2017 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaseZ (Post 3646508)
Maybe I need a 3" test pipe instead of 2.5

Or bring my car up a couple days before seb's dyno day in June and you can whip me up an exhaust like that one..

For sure, I'd be able to help you with that.

Go full aluminium once you are out of the heat range of the turbo, I really like the tone on my own car. Dual 3" with 4 mufflers.

I also use 3mm wall aluminium tubing on the exhaust, not the typical Vibrant paper thing crap. It will last a very long time.


Quote:

Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3646589)
Dang Sasha. You should start a BP exhaust option with your kits, or others. Those look great!

Yeah, I had a bit of a feeler for the aluminium exhaust, but there wasn't all that much interest.

Jayhovah 04-28-2017 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaseZ (Post 3646494)
Sounds good. Send me yours :tup:

But then my car will be too loud!

bcfromfl 04-28-2017 11:51 AM

I thought I was understanding that the consensus leans towards turbos being generally quieter than s/c (although depending upon a host of variables), but in this thread it seems that turbo and s/c exhaust systems are being compared interchangeably.

If there IS a difference in sound levels between the two systems, how can the s/c exhaust be modified to reduce some of this additional noise? Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'd like to see some configuration that keeps the decibels to a manageable level. Seems like the cats are a key component to reduce some of the worst of the noise, but they should be repositioned downstream to avoid the worst of the heat? Is that right? Where would you place hangers, etc.? Will the sensors need additional cabling to reach? Other problems?

I found a suggestion on one website that recommended adding spiral inserts inside straight pipes to reduce excessive noise. Has anyone tried something like this?

I tried Googling the images of the exhausts of factory s/c cars, but that didn't really yield helpful results. Are factory s/c cars known to burn through cats?

Jayhovah 04-28-2017 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcfromfl (Post 3646742)
I thought I was understanding that the consensus leans towards turbos being generally quieter than s/c (although depending upon a host of variables), but in this thread it seems that turbo and s/c exhaust systems are being compared interchangeably.

If there IS a difference in sound levels between the two systems, how can the s/c exhaust be modified to reduce some of this additional noise? Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'd like to see some configuration that keeps the decibels to a manageable level. Seems like the cats are a key component to reduce some of the worst of the noise, but they should be repositioned downstream to avoid the worst of the heat? Is that right? Where would you place hangers, etc.? Will the sensors need additional cabling to reach? Other problems?

I found a suggestion on one website that recommended adding spiral inserts inside straight pipes to reduce excessive noise. Has anyone tried something like this?

I tried Googling the images of the exhausts of factory s/c cars, but that didn't really yield helpful results. Are factory s/c cars known to burn through cats?

There is definitely a difference in noise having turbos in the exhaust stream and its a very significant one. Exhaust sound, heat, velocity... energy in general, are soaked up by the turbo.

There is a lot of good discussion on this thread.. but for the sake of discussion we've probably overthought it quite a bit (which is healthy as it helps us all gain more knowledge....one of the primary purposes of this forum!)... I think if you just go with one of the quieter exhaust systems that follow the OEM design (allows for much larger muffler) and some resonated test pipes (or cats somewhere in the stream), you'll be fine.


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