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DIY smoker for boost/vacuum leaks?
I've seen DIY for them and all used a metal pail (5gal) with compressor hose going in and a line out to the piping. Easy enough. Problem is I haven't seen a metal bucket like that in years now. Been plastic as long as I can remember. Not sure what else around that size I could get in metal cheap enough to be disposable afterwards.
Any thoughts? Or a different way of making one? |
Paint can. You can probably pick one up at Sherwin-Williams on Macleod.
http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/pro...28fee_1000.jpg |
Behrens makes metal pails with lids. Can be found at a Lowes.
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Needs to be 5 gallon pail not 1. Apologies if I didn't make that clear. Otherwise it'd be piece of cake.
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Don't mean to question you, I am sure you know that you need 5 gallons, but the only reason I suggested a paint can is because I saw this. I don't know anything about this subject (no sarcasm).
Cheap DIY smoke test for vacuum leaks - R3VLimited Forums |
Not sure what size this is.
https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/mainsta.../6000196023992 or a garbage can maybe? https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/mainsta.../6000187969133 not sure on the volume, I don't think their measurements are correct. https://www.princessauto.com/en/deta...il/A-p8560013e |
You should be able to find something suitable at most farm supply stores. Call some of the painters/contractors/suppliers/etc in your area and see if they have any old, empty containers you can have.
I don't see where the size of the container is particularly important. Anything from a quart can to a 55-gallon drum ought to work. Edit: A pressurized paint pot would be ideal - it will already have holes drilled and possibly fittings. |
I just can't imagine how that would be big enough.
He is also using just the little 3/8" vacuum hose. I'll be using 1" ID heater hose to connected to my BOV so I can check the charge pipe and everything. Plus I'll be at about 155psi when I pressurize the whole system. I have some old 1gal paint cans in the basement I could clean one out and try but I just can't bend my head around it being enough. Been wrong once before though so it could happen. |
Worth a shot.
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Don't bother making a fire. Just get a couple of these (only use one at a time):
Smoke Emitters They'll make plenty of smoke for what you need. |
Perfect thanks.
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Armed with this new knowledge of smoking candles I was able to slap something together in the garage. I'm assuming now those things will fit in a 1g can. Even if not Plastic would probably be ok? Either way think this is covered as long as the Acklands here has them in stock.
http://www.the370z.com/members/chase...2-img-1618.jpg |
Yes, they will fit in a 1 gal paint can.
Another place you might be able to find the smoke candles is a fire protection supply company. |
None of the Acklands here had them in stock but could bring them in for Monday. The caveat is the 3 minute burns are $26 a piece or 1 minute $170 for a dozen. I sort of had an idea in my head that these things would be maybe $8-9 a piece but not so much. I'd probably want a few of them too. So told her I'd call if I wanted her to bring some in for Monday.
Think I'll hook up that can I assembled and pressurize it to 15psi. Since the engine doesn't have to be runni I should be able to hear any leaks audibly - it just won't be quite as straight forwRd to pinpoint them but I'm sure it's still doable. At least this way I can address any obvious ones and maybe use the smoke candles for a final test or something. Otherwise I could just bring it to a shop and they charge like $100 for their smoke machine to diagnose. Heck a one way check valve into the side of the can and I could blow cigar smoke into it lol Dry ice? |
I got some dry ice at home if you need some.
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Looks like I could rent a luquid fog machine from a party rental store for $25/day as another alternative. Think I'll try just air and see what I can accomplish. Then might take you up in the dry ice offer after doing what I can that way. Thanks :tup: |
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No lid.
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Just past Chinook, off of Blackfoot. I have a big chunk in the freezer. |
Why not just use some smoke bombs. They are like 20 cents a piece and you can buy them at wal-mart. Or buy them online at ebay/amazon. Or get some of those "gender revealing" bombs from some place.
Or..this 4 Ways to Make a Smoke Bomb - wikiHow |
I like that idea.
Think I'll give this one a try. Have some fun while I'm at it lol |
Well the 1 gallon metal paint can blew its lid at less than 5psi. I rigged up an adapter to go from 3/8 airline to a 1/8 barb so I can at least maybe hear any air escaping from places it shouldn't. At such low psi thiugnjm not sure if I will or not. At least I can go straight to the manifold and test that way with it though. Will see....
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Did it make a loud popping sound? lid hit the roof? Too funny lol :bowrofl: Sorry..... I just had a vision Glue the lid on or JB spot weld it in place? |
Can't bond the lid on, I need to be able to drop smoke bomb or whatever inside then close it up. Was the first thing that came to mind. Need a pressure cooker or something lol
In better news I figured out the main Boost leak that spawned all this. The vacuum cap came off the back of the manifold when I switched out those lines for uni-breathers. It is now clamped, and I had five or ten minute drive with Boost before another leak popped up. Go figure. So I'm not done with this smoker project just yet. |
No it popped up a couple feet though right behind me while I was bent over the engine! Scared the crap out of me for half a second until I realized what it was
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I found my boost leak by just putting pressure in the system. MAF gasket leaked around 3 psi. Fixed it and then took it up to 5 and stopped since that is a lot more pressure than you realize.
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