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tturbo370z 01-31-2016 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by YzGyz (Post 3401796)
Lol.. then you will have to get super wide wheels and rubber, SPL parts and make a decision to go straight or be able to take turns. 600+ rwh is Herculian on the streets or track. 700+ is nothing short of Godlike or full retard. It's your pick

YzGyz

I have 345s and the mofo only slides whichever way you turn the wheel:inoutroflpuke: so I guess some of us like full retard mode :eekdance:
Race logic, fat tires and feathering the gas only go so far. If your motor was fed toast I would tell ya to save your money.

tturbo370z 01-31-2016 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3401672)
I would love to have e85 within 45 minutes of my house. The closest to me is 110 miles so I got a 55 gallon drum and six 5 gallon gas cans. I make the trip about every other week to three weeks and get fuel. It's an inconvenience but I don't care at all because the payoff is worth it to me. I hate every time I have to use 91 craptane. Granted you get a lot more whp out of 93 than 91 but you will not want to use it again if you go e85. Come on that's like just leaving a 100 whp on the table for no good reason at all other than you scared to get 800whp. :stirthepot:

Daaaayum Hotrodz! You a crazy mofo and I like it :icon18:

Hotrodz 02-01-2016 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tturbo370z (Post 3401881)
Daaaayum Hotrodz! You a crazy mofo and I like it :icon18:

I have problem with doing things in moderation. My wife just shakes her head and walks away. :p

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zguynate 02-03-2016 12:24 PM

Anyone want some pistons? I'll let them go for kind of cheap lol.

zguynate 02-11-2016 08:09 AM

If any of my boosted brothers want my pistons I'm letting them go for $550 shipped.

Small update: I ordered my new pistons. They are JE 10:1's since you can get them off the shelf at 10:1. Also my torque plate will be here Monday. I hope to have the block to the machine shop next week.

zguynate 02-15-2016 05:15 PM

Minor update:

Got my new motor torn down with the help of Memphis370z as my sack holder. Much appreciated good sir! The motor was in pristine condition. The oil in it was still golden. There are barely any signs of wear on the bearings. Needless to say I'm extremely happy after what I discovered from my previous "core motor". I included a picture of one of the main bearings to show the condition of this used motor I bought. Pretty incredible. Ignore my old man looking hands.

https://i.imgur.com/Niko9I5.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/VpVwLF3.jpg

And my torque plate from BHJ came in. My machinist didnt have one, so I went ahead a picked one up.

https://i.imgur.com/uQTZdrL.jpg

Also I made this nice little book of the engine portion of the FSM for quick garage reference at FedEx Kinkos. I prefer to have a hard copy rather than having to look at a tablet or something.

https://i.imgur.com/IFI9mpW.jpg
Im waiting on my JE 10:1 pistons now. Once they get here Ill be dropping everything off at the machine shop. Im going to try my hardest to get my Z up and running by April 1st for break-in. Then hopefully it will be tuned by May 1st. It will be tight, but if I can pull it off I can make it to ZDayZ. Which is the goal!

Memphis370Z 02-15-2016 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 3414259)
Minor update:

Got my new motor torn down with the help of Memphis370z as my sack holder. Much appreciated good sir! The motor was in pristine condition. The oil in it was still golden. There are barely any signs of wear on the bearings. Needless to say I'm extremely happy after what I discovered from my previous "core motor". I included a picture of one of the main bearings to show the condition of this used motor I bought. Pretty incredible. Ignore my old man looking hands.

No worries! Being your sack holder isn't a problem, since it's so very small.

Happy for the progress and looking forward to pulling the old motor.

V1H 02-16-2016 10:11 AM

Loving your build thread. Best of luck and good pick on the AAM TT kit!
Sub'd :tiphat:

whiteZ34 02-16-2016 12:38 PM

sub'd...you're doing what I wanted to do, switch from the BP Kit to FI Kit...but I couldn't justify spending another 12k for the same levels or more. Plus other life purchases also depleted my bank account so I'm just crippled right now lmao.:roflpuke2:

zguynate 02-16-2016 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by whiteZ34 (Post 3415000)
sub'd...you're doing what I wanted to do, switch from the BP Kit to FI Kit...but I couldn't justify spending another 12k for the same levels or more. Plus other life purchases also depleted my bank account so I'm just crippled right now lmao.:roflpuke2:


I actually got really lucky with this. The timing was right I guess. I am spending more money because I'm building my motor, but the kit actually didn't end up costing more in the long run after what it would have cost me to get the BP kit to the power I wanted.

This will be my last big hoorah for cars for a good while. The wife is baby crazy and I can't fight her off much longer lol. I just need to get this all done before that happens so that I will actually finish it.

whiteZ34 02-16-2016 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 3415083)
I actually got really lucky with this. The timing was right I guess. I am spending more money because I'm building my motor, but the kit actually didn't end up costing more in the long run after what it would have cost me to get the BP kit to the power I wanted.

This will be my last big hoorah for cars for a good while. The wife is baby crazy and I can't fight her off much longer lol. I just need to get this all done before that happens so that I will actually finish it.

Lucky bastard! Haha (no offense just teasing) I'm thinking if I would have done things a certain way I might have spent the same amount as I am now for the BP Kit. Damn...oh well I'm committed now. Can't wait to see your finished build tho and see the numbers you put down..ill be getting mine tuned April 1st so I'll see what happens as well

Hotrodz 02-16-2016 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 3415083)

This will be my last big hoorah for cars for a good while. The wife is baby crazy and I can't fight her off much longer lol. I just need to get this all done before that happens so that I will actually finish it.

Just buy her a dog and tell her it will be good practice for raising a child and if you already ready have a dog, tell her you need another one so you are sure you are ready to have and raise children. :p

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zguynate 02-16-2016 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by whiteZ34 (Post 3415104)
Lucky bastard! Haha (no offense just teasing) I'm thinking if I would have done things a certain way I might have spent the same amount as I am now for the BP Kit. Damn...oh well I'm committed now. Can't wait to see your finished build tho and see the numbers you put down..ill be getting mine tuned April 1st so I'll see what happens as well

Ill be on the lookout for some results! I can't wait either. My Z has been dead for 6 months now, which feels like an eternity. I just told my wife that I still need about $5000 to finish. Im definitely testing her patience with this, but so far she has been pretty understanding. I def owe her something great once this is all done.

zguynate 02-16-2016 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3415131)
Just buy her a dog and tell her it will be good practice for raising a child and if you already ready have a dog, tell her you need another one so you are sure you are ready to have and raise children. :p

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That would be awesome! But she's 26 turning 27 in August and she is really worried about being an old mother. So she wants a child soon lol. I keep telling her that a child will love the car when he/she gets old enough, and thats why I need to finish it.

V1H 02-16-2016 03:48 PM

700hp twin turbo project
 
My wife's just given me our 1st baby boy at age 36, which we think is just a good time in current economies. Don't she worry she'd be an old mum
In fact i still feel I'd have done with another year of DINKI (double income no kids) to finish my TT build but .... Shhh about it LOL


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zguynate 02-16-2016 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by V1H (Post 3415164)
My wife's just given me my 1st baby boy at age 35, which we think is just a good time in current economies. Don't she worry she'd be an old mum
In fact i still feel I'd have done with another year of DINKI (double income no kids) to finish my TT build but .... Shhh about it LOL


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Congrats on your son!

DINKI is definitely awesome lol. We are extremely fortunate to be where we are financially at such a young age. Not rich but not much debt. She worries a lot about having children over 30 because of all of the "risks". Blah blah blah. To be honest I think both of us are ready. I just hope I don't have a daughter lol :ugh2:

Hotrodz 02-16-2016 04:04 PM

Not even close to being an old mom...we had our first at 29 and next at 33. You will be just fine and you are right to complete the car fisrt, because your kids deserve the best you have before your fun begins. I still tell my wife and children that have nothing better to spend my money on than them. Keep up the good work.

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whiteZ34 02-16-2016 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 3415150)
Ill be on the lookout for some results! I can't wait either. My Z has been dead for 6 months now, which feels like an eternity. I just told my wife that I still need about $5000 to finish. Im definitely testing her patience with this, but so far she has been pretty understanding. I def owe her something great once this is all done.

Haha I know what you mean! My car cracked a Ringland April last year and I was about to buy a house so when I had to pull money for a motor build plus buying a house. My girl got a lil uneasy. But hey she was getting a house lmao. Sucked not having a car tho from April till mid July. I was going to car meets and what not with my buddies with them or in my daily. SUCKED!

zguynate 02-16-2016 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by whiteZ34 (Post 3415191)
Haha I know what you mean! My car cracked a Ringland April last year and I was about to buy a house so when I had to pull money for a motor build plus buying a house. My girl got a lil uneasy. But hey she was getting a house lmao. Sucked not having a car tho from April till mid July. I was going to car meets and what not with my buddies with them or in my daily. SUCKED!


Haha when my motor blew, my wife told me "You know it's going to be sitting for a long time right?" I was like dang, just kick me while I'm down why don't you. I have gone to a few car things with a friend of mine. I'm so ready to get my own Z going. Gas has been cheap cheap, the weather is going to start warming up. I need my Z!!!

whiteZ34 02-16-2016 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 3415195)
Haha when my motor blew, my wife told me "You know it's going to be sitting for a long time right?" I was like dang, just kick me while I'm down why don't you. I have gone to a few car things with a friend of mine. I'm so ready to get my own Z going. Gas has been cheap cheap, the weather is going to start warming up. I need my Z!!!

Definitely a kick while you're down. But hey you're getting back up and that's what matters. You'll definitely be excited once you get it going..even just driving for the break in period. You'll be happy to just have your car again and running.

zguynate 02-22-2016 10:57 PM

Got the JE pistons in Friday. Dropped my stuff off at the machine shop today. Baby steps!

https://i.imgur.com/7OkvwIX.jpg

V1H 02-23-2016 02:26 AM

Very cool. Wouldnt fit an engine block in to my trunk.
These are the CR 10:1 pistons, are they?


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zguynate 02-23-2016 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by V1H (Post 3420469)
Very cool. Wouldnt fit an engine block in to my trunk.
These are the CR 10:1 pistons, are they?


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Yep. They are the 10:1's.

zguynate 03-03-2016 10:27 PM

So over the past few days I got a little bit accomplished. Memphis370 and my dad assisted with engine removal.

Before:
https://i.imgur.com/idh2UaP.jpg

After:

https://i.imgur.com/dq5ICz6.jpg

Theres all kinds of little shrapnel on the front subframe lol. While removing the engine and transmission, one of my connectors on the transmission got smashed and broke against the transmission tunnel. Luckily I have a friend that works at Nissan and actually had one on hand. I also picked up another connector for the factory dash gauges since Ill be relocating my other gauges. Where? I don't know yet.

https://i.imgur.com/sIUcW2M.jpg

Once we got the motor out, there were little metal pieces falling out everywhere. Me and Memphis370 will be taking the other motor apart for poops and laughs to observe the damage, but here is a little sneak peak lol. Go big or go home right?

https://i.imgur.com/imwGVTa.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kcZLqeY.jpg

Im pretty excited to see the damage. I can salvage a few things off of this motor (intake plenum, valve covers, timing covers), but most of it is toast I'm sure. Im kind of waiting, not knowing what to do with my hands right now since my block is still at the machine shop. They said Monday it should be done by Wednesday. Well here it is Thursday night at 10, and Im blockless. I did however purchase some precision tools for assembly. Stuff to check clearances and what not. For what Ive paid in tools I could have easily just paid to have it assembled, but I like to do things myself. I want to know its done right, and will do it to the best of my ability. Hopefully my ability doesn't fail me lol. I have already learned a lot through this process and I havent even done anything yet. Learning is fun and is a part of the journey for me!

I also picked up some SPL bushings. Kyle at IPP hooked me up on them. From what I have heard, you don't get much wiggle room with SPL on price, but he gave me a bit off of MSRP. Ill definitely be hitting Kyle up when it comes time for a few more SPL pieces. Anyway, with more power, I know that bushing in the subframe is going to be dead fairly soon. So I got new differential bushings. Also, since I'm going to be back there, I went ahead and got new subframe bushings as well. You might say to yourself, "Dragon wtf are you thinking? Whats the purpose of this car going to be?". No purpose. I loved the solid feel on my old 350z (had solid everything) so I decided to do the same to my 370z. The response is amazing and feedback from the car is instant. Its hard to explain. Last but not least, something I almost forgot about since its been hidden away in a closet for over 3 years, I have a finned Nismo differential cover Ill be putting on. I got it for my 350z back in the day, but then it got totaled out before I got around to putting it on. Lucky for me, it also fits the 370z.

https://i.imgur.com/199vc6W.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/AVHqENI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/31Xo3hM.jpg

As always, Ill try to stay updated for those of you who are interested. Its fun documenting these things so when Im old, I can show my grandkids this stuff and call them sissies.

Elmo370z 03-04-2016 12:11 AM

Good stuff

TcRocket 03-04-2016 12:34 AM

Definitely like to see the damage. Will be installing my BP kit soon. Fingers crossed I don't end up like this..... Excited to see this build

AndyR1 03-04-2016 04:52 AM

WOW :tiphat:

Masterbeatty 03-04-2016 09:19 AM

How are you installing the subframe bushings, I am looking into doing that as well.

B&W_Evader 03-04-2016 11:40 AM

I thought the engine usually drops out the bottom?

How long did it take to get all that stuff disconnected?

zguynate 03-04-2016 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Masterbeatty (Post 3429147)
How are you installing the subframe bushings, I am looking into doing that as well.

Its a process... you have to obviously remove the subframe. So you have to disconnect the ebrake cables, take the brake calipers off, take the exhaust off, disconnect the driveshaft, and take a few suspension components off. I havent decided if I want to burn them out like i did on my 240sx or drill the meat out and cut the race with a sawzaw.

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 3429292)
I thought the engine usually drops out the bottom?

How long did it take to get all that stuff disconnected?

Taking it out from the bottom is the "proper" way to do it. Unfortunately I don't have prolonged access to a lift and Im doing all the work at my house with no lift. So the next option is to remove the radiator support.

It wasn't that bad. Maybe 2 hours, and thats a high estimate. The most difficult part was taking the ziptied wiring harness off of the fan shroud lol. Also, trying to disconnect the AC lines with cheap disconnect tools was a waste of time. I had to borrow some nice ones and they came off really easy.

Hotrodz 03-04-2016 01:54 PM

I upgraded the sub frame bushings when I replaced the rear differential. The mechanic said getting the oem bushings out were a real pain in the a$$. Beware as they are noisy on deceleration because of the flexing of the subframe under load. It chatters until the load is relieved. I have gotten use to it now and it doesn't bother me but if you are sensitive to cabin noise I would not recommend it.

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zguynate 03-08-2016 05:19 PM

Alright guys, I need some help wrapping my head around bearings... I have been beating my head against the wall about this since 7 this morning. I know my measurements, I know what I want my clearances to be, but I have no clue how to get the proper sized bearings.

So, for reference, we will use the stamps on my block and crank. The block for Main #1 is stamped "S". The #1 main on the crank is stamped "M". Here is a picture from the FSM stating measurements and grade of bearing for those particular stamps.

https://i.imgur.com/vqOcjle.jpg

Grade 4 bearing per FSM

https://i.imgur.com/dOxTDtX.jpg

Now here is the math.

https://i.imgur.com/4JQoacA.jpg

Someone help me out here. Using the measurements out of the Nissan FSM and math, it says my clearance will be .0007, however the minimum clearance is .0014. What am I missing? This is making it difficult for me to find the proper size bearings I need. The math isn't adding up and it's driving me crazy.

B&W_Evader 03-09-2016 10:20 AM

Agreed that the math does not add up. Maybe the assembly lube is supposed to take off the last bit for the final clearance number they give you in the manual.

BTW, have you looked into using aftermarket bearings to get away from the over-temp issue with the "green" Nissan ones?

zguynate 03-09-2016 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 3432540)
Agreed that the math does not add up. Maybe the assembly lube is supposed to take off the last bit for the final clearance number they give you in the manual.



BTW, have you looked into using aftermarket bearings to get away from the over-temp issue with the "green" Nissan ones?


I haven't. The only aftermarket bearings I know of are the ACL mains. I don't think anyone makes aftermarket rod bearings.

Chuck33079 03-09-2016 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 3432544)
I haven't. The only aftermarket bearings I know of are the ACL mains. I don't think anyone makes aftermarket rod bearings.


The last time I checked, coated oem rod bearings were the best option available since there's no aftermarket option.

Streetz 03-09-2016 01:29 PM

I used stock Bearings in my built Vq35de. I Just replaced them last year because I thought after 60k miles and 10 years they would be worn. Pulled them out and they looked brand new. Still had the marks on the bearing material from where we measured them. Car has seen some high power too. I was really impressed with how they were holding up.

zguynate 03-09-2016 02:25 PM

I finally had some time to get the old motor torn apart. Holy ****.

https://i.imgur.com/g2A56WL.jpg

While taking the accessories and wiring harness off the engine kept spitting goodies at us (Mempihs370z) through the hole in the oil pan.

https://i.imgur.com/pPChdJy.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IIh12pZ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/UYOP2aU.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3RjSVkS.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/MwySyyf.jpg

As you can see in the pictures above, things got crazy in there. The water pump had metal shavings hanging out in there. I knew when I took the heads off, there was going to be some carnage. Well behold:

https://i.imgur.com/4PcZdAU.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Sqe8YJU.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/rw84FEH.jpg

Pistons 2,4,6:

https://i.imgur.com/NqSfnYO.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/YwFLQoB.jpg

Cylinders 1,3,5:

https://i.imgur.com/P2VydKB.jpg

Close ups:

https://i.imgur.com/1JmTCGi.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1tZuzDQ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/svBeZcg.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dRGwiLs.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/UMD0LfU.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/sX5NbR6.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/NyPydE6.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/RwABS9D.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/fQtFBQ0.jpg

Needless to say, there isn't much left to keep lol.

Chuck33079 03-09-2016 02:31 PM

That is a truly impressive amount of destruction.

V1H 03-09-2016 03:11 PM

Oh my science! What combustile force could split a piston in half and bend that rod
I once melted a hole into my piston (reckless nitrous abuse on a VTEC motor)... But this? Pretty epic. Feel sorry for ur damage m8


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Rusty 03-09-2016 05:31 PM

Do a root cause analysis. Where do you start at? :icon17: What failed first? You can say that the motor ate it's self. It's out to lunch. It hand grenaded. :rofl2:


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