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njobe89 11-05-2015 01:39 PM

as stated z1 does 5th gear pulls where others i believe do 4th gear pulls

ROBERT1183 11-05-2015 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by geauxtigers1 (Post 3341702)
agreed. So why don't more people run in 5th gear? Shoot, i'll take the higher number if that's what it gives me! Lol

also, if this were the case (just basing off my personal thoughts not anything scientific or pretend that i really know what the hell i'm talking about) with this same set up at 605whp at 9.5psi, why is there no one with e85, running 13lbs and thus hitting well over 700 already? The torque should still be in line with the upper 500s if it's this low at 9.5 lbs right?

not readily available here is nj. Or not atleast by me

ROBERT1183 11-05-2015 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by robert1183 (Post 3341747)
not readily available here is nj. Or not atleast by me

and trying to keep my tq under 450

Hotrodz 11-05-2015 02:34 PM

The one thing about the vq engine, no two are a like. Mine is a torque monster, she won't be dialed back so I can make more horsepower. I'm at 604whp and 550ish on torque. That is burning e85 and before ecutek I was 556whp and 552tq on 100 octane. My tuner had to stop because he couldn't keep the torque down and as bullitt said.... torque kills engines.

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ROBERT1183 11-05-2015 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hotrodz (Post 3341764)
the one thing about the vq engine, no two are a like. Mine is a torque monster, she won't be dialed back so i can make more horsepower. I'm at 604whp and 550ish on torque. That is burning e85 and before ecutek i was 556whp and 552tq on 100 octane. My tuner had to stop because he couldn't keep the torque down and as bullitt said.... Torque kills engines.

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yeah thats more torque than i feel comfortable making on a stock block. Ecutek cars seem to make more torque than one tuned on uprev.

Hotrodz 11-05-2015 04:01 PM

Actually it is the opposite...the tuner has more control over timing and vvel parameters with EcuTek than UpRev and that is why the best tuners perfer Ecutek.

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John@Z1 11-05-2015 04:57 PM

Mark's car made 583 in 4th gear and here is the 5th gear pull. I'm also at 86% duty cycle with the 1000cc and no fuel return. Timing is very low on this tune. Also the vehicle was tuned in 4th gear and cleaned up in 5th. The 4th gear run is always smoother and looks the best on a dyno graph.:

https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...53599990_o.jpg

Hotrodz 11-05-2015 05:34 PM

Thanks for jumping on and providing clarity for folks.

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phunk 11-06-2015 02:53 AM

Sounds fair enough to me. Tomorrow when I get to work I will have to double check my dyno graphs but I believe I made 586 at 9.5psi in 4th gear on a dynojet... Been a while so I need to confirm. That was e85 but it was also really conservative timing versus when I made 671 at 12psi (4th again) using even more timing at the higher boost.

The dyno above doesn't display rpm but based on where the hp and torque meet it appears to have full boost around 2700-2900rpm? Is this using an inertia dynojet 248 or a brake dyno?

ROBERT1183 11-06-2015 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by hotrodz (Post 3341793)
actually it is the opposite...the tuner has more control over timing and vvel parameters with ecutek than uprev and that is why the best tuners perfer ecutek.

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just going by what ive seen.

iBenJAMM1N 11-06-2015 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ROBERT1183 (Post 3341596)
i was running the ark grip 2.5'' exhaust on my car. Car made 501whp at 10psi. Aam installed a custom 3'' system on the car and the car made 580whp on that old tune. Nothing else on the car was changed. Same dyno. Similar conditions.

Did the tuner go less aggressive? You said you made 580 after the 3inch exhaust upgrade. But your signature says 540

clkio 11-06-2015 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by iBenJAMM1N (Post 3342332)
Did the tuner go less aggressive? You said you made 580 after the 3inch exhaust upgrade. But your signature says 540

He dialed down the boost he mentioned before from 10.5 to 9.5 to keep safe levels due to his stock clutch

iBenJAMM1N 11-06-2015 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by clkio (Post 3342412)
He dialed down the boost he mentioned before from 10.5 to 9.5 to keep safe levels due to his stock clutch

Gotcha. And still all the AAM kits around make about to same power depending on what their fuel system is capable of and what exhaust they have.

BOLIO 671 11-06-2015 05:52 PM

Very Nice.....

ROBERT1183 11-07-2015 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ibenjamm1n (Post 3342332)
did the tuner go less aggressive? You said you made 580 after the 3inch exhaust upgrade. But your signature says 540

dialed the boost down from 10psi to 9psi. ON 10PSI IT MADE 580WHP ON 9 ITS AT 540WHP


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