Waiting for GTM V3 TT kit delivery
 

Update- A Gamma Motors V3 TT got delivered to me on October 28 like literally right before I left to Sema, I was extremely excited.:happydance::happydance::happydance: It was amazing that in the first few times I talked to Amin, he did more in a few hours than GTM did in over two years, him and his team would religiously keep me up to date via emails and calls, it was awesome. Finally when it was shipped, it was delivered in less than a week. I haven't had much time been extremely busy being sick and lots of work I will try to add some more details later.:tiphat:





So as many as you guys know I am one of the few members who GTM owes a V3 twin turbo kit too, I've tried to keep in touch with Sam at GTM through out the whole fiasco of the MHI group buy kit (V3 kit now) obviously because he has my money, so the out of the blue as I'am working at my shop, my phone rings and it's GTM, suprised I answer my phone, after a long conversation with Sam I will be waiting for delivery of my V3 kit, according to Sam there has been a change of management and ownership at GTM, Sam is no longer the main principle of the company, the new shareholders is an investment group out of Dubai and also moved to a smaller shop, to my surprise there is a customer that has this kit installed on his car for almost a year, here are some pics of the car that Sam sent me today, its been so long I dont remember if I've seen them before, maybe some knows who's car it is, I also asked for more new pictures. I asked Sam to please provide turbo manifold replacements asap for the older turbo kits at least at a prorate or at cost to help with the headaches that it has caused, he said he's working on it so we will see, I know other members have been contacted, the sole purose of this tread is to keep those who are waiting for their v3 kit with updates as I receive them, I don't need anyone's opinions on what to do or how they feel about GTM as we all now how everyone feels about them, thank you.

Below are the pictures Sam sent me of the car (not mine) with the new V3 kit installed.

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Update 4/19/15

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Update 4/24/15

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Ohhh sweet potatoes!!! :tup:
What is your HP target?
One more thing, If everything goes according to my plans, I should be moving to Coral Springs before the end of year. Wish me luck!

Thanks but it's not my Z or pictures. Good luck Mr.nismo, I will be here , hope to see the Nismo, just make sure your Z is not loud in Coral Springs.

interesting...

lol

They just won't go down lolol

I called it!

The photos of the car Sam posted above are mine.
I don't post much but have monitored the trials and tribulations of GTM over the last year.
I'm not going to use this forum to bash Sam, or anyone else associated with GTM.
I'll simply share certain facts.
I had spent considerable time researching which TT kit to have installed once I purchased my Z.
I had visited GTM a couple years prior to see the shop, meet Sam and to get comfortable that GTM was in fact the right place to have the work completed.
Once that comfort level was established, I had my car shipped to GTM in October 2013 from Michigan.
I stayed in constant contact with Sam during the process.
I'll be the first to admit that I'm not an easy customer.
I'm demanding, relentless, and need to be communicated with frequently.
Initially I was told that the car would be done in approximately 4 weeks.
I was hoping to put some miles on it before i had to store it for the winter.
Sam convinced me to go with the new V3 kit.
I was (and to a certain degree still am) concerned as I didn't want to be a guinea pig for new parts, etc. knowing that if something goes wrong the car would be in Michigan and GTM wasn't.
As November & December came and went, I was promised that the car was coming along although I hadn't seen any pictures.
Sam was usually accessible by email/phone but as the weeks went by I was getting less comfortable.
By mid February, I hopped on a plane to pay Sam a visit.
He knew I was coming and agreed to meet me on a Saturday morning.
The car was in process but not nearly as far along as I was led to believe.
I was told they needed another 4 weeks.
Eric was the primary mechanic working on the car.
4 weeks later I told Sam I was on the way back to pick up the car.
I arrived mid-march and the car wasn't ready.
At this point, after monitoring the forum and all of the people who had fronted $ for the pre-sale TT kit, I was making contingency plans (i.e how i was going to get my car back, engaging counsel in California, etc.).
I still continued to pester the hell out of Sam & Eric and essentially gave them an ultimatum.
At the end of April 2014, the car arrived back in Michigan ready to go.
I'm well aware that I'm one of the fortunate ones - for probably one of several reasons.
The car is running 7 PSI and generating approx. 417 HP.
If I turn the boost up to 11 PSI, it cranks out about 497 HP.
This is per the dyno graph sent to me from GTM.
If anyone wants to see it, please IM me with your email address and I'm happy to share it.
I've put on nearly 4,000 miles since last year.
In addition to the V3 kit, i had a Defi boost, oil temp and fuel pressure gauge installed in the factory locations.
The workmanship was very professional and I haven't had a single issue with it.
The car is fast as hell and is used as a daily driver.
I'm still on the stock clutch but don't beat the crap out of the car.
One thing I may consider down the line is GTM's traction control upgrade.
The factory TC system can't handle the amount of power the car is making.
I have brand new tires and can spin them in 3rd gear at 50 MPH on dry pavement - and that's on the low boost setting.
From that perspective, you do need to learn throttle control.
From what i read, i know people have had issues with cracked manifolds and as a result the car will run rich.
I do get quite a bit of carbon out of the exahust but have had friends drive the car (while i followed behind) and have watched start up, acceleration and have never seen a change in exhaust color.
For now I'll assume the excess carbon is a non-issue since it doesn't appear as if I'm burning oil or burning to rich.
No issues with the O2 sensor or check engine light either.
I'm not a mechanic.
I just know enough to be dangerous as I've been modifying turbocharged cars for the last 25 years.
I'm not suggesting anyone should trust GTM at this point.
Sam will have to re-earn people's trust by doing the right thing for those that have been burned.
I don't know if that's possible.
That will be up to him.
Eric was instrumental in completing the car and without his mobile number and hundreds of text messsages, I don't know if I would have seen the car again.
Sam's been in touch with me a few times since the modification to follow up and ensure that I'm happy with the end product.
At this time, I have no complaints.
I enjoy driving the car as often as I can.
A co-worker of mine has a 2015 CTS-V.
Let's just say lunch time isn't the safest place to be on roads by our office.
If anyone would like to talk to me, IM me your email address and we can correspond directly via email. Good luck.

He's a smooth talker but when Pigs Fly will that ever happen!!!

(I asked Sam to please provide turbo manifold replacements asap for the older turbo kits at least at a prorate or at cost to help with the headaches that it has caused)

Hmm,a lot of threads recently,concerning gtm.
@ baddyb13. Assuming at 2 posts,you aren't affiliated with gtm,thanks for sharing your experiance with gtm. Hopefully gtm makes good on making everything right with all who were burnt and we can see more threads pertaining to forum brothers hitting the boost juice. :driving:

Sam called me the other night and told me that my stroker engine is his main priority and that I will be getting it soon. and the stage 3 SC upgrades as well ,its been 21 months . lots of weekly phone calls.
my info on GTM is the same as others have posted.
he intends to make good on his back orders.

Z

I can concur that Sam is no longer the controlling principle and new investors will be rebuilding the company and the brand. Also one of the prime initiatives of that is to repair the bad PR thats been done. Which means they will be working out of a hole with the new management. Most people mistake me for a "fanboy" but I will say this... Over the last several years I have spent working and building a relationship with Sam... The conversations I have with him are on a much different level than most of you even get to discuss with him. I have known what has gone on behind the scenes of the business and I have shared with the public what I could. There are several people on this board and you know who you are that I went to bat for you and for some we were able to get good progress.

Now we all know that many have beef with Sam specifically and rightfully so. With that said lets keep it clean and I look forward to the new V3 manifold being ready as I am on the list for a set along with full size GTX3582R's :yum: Lets just say when those get here no one is going to be safe!!!! I would expect an easy 1000rwhp on pump gas...

I have seen the new V3 manifolds in person and held them in my hands... They are a work of ART! It is cast out of a different material, the flow on them is dramatically better and they will fit a wider range of turbo options. Once they are released and in stock I would recommend those with manifold issues to upgrade to the new units.

And if Sam is reading this I would recommend that he make it worth while for those with issues on the current versions to have a discounted upgrade to the new manifold conversion kit...

What most will need to upgrade would be new:
New Manifolds and gaskets
Downpipes
Dump tubes (if external wastegate)
Turbo Intake Piping

I'm glad to see you getting some relief in a messy situation. Hopefully this new ownership will move them forward into a great shop. Hope everything works out for the best and you get to enjoy some new toys :driving:

you've seriously been calling them weekly for 21 months? I need some of you guys to jump onboard my forex trading adventures.

Ok so since everything seems to be ok now since there is a new guy in charge I have a few questions.
Can anyone give an actual name to who is suppose to be cleaning up the old gtm?
What is the new business number and name of this new born gtm upgrade?

My exhaust manifold is almost ready to come out of the car and about to be sent off to be fixed at my cost thanks to a bad design of gtm. Again I have placed an order using vivid over a month ago after todd spoke with sam saying these new manifolds would be ready 2 1/2 months ago and had to have my money refunded due to more broken promises.. So far they have done nothing but try to promote things to people to buy using other forum members.

Cosmo please read the information already provided. The OP pointed out where to call already. Secondly, I am not sharing the information of the other business parties as they did not want to be brought forward at this time. If you would have read it is an investment group based in the middle east... I know of several projects they were already funding through GTM... this would explain why there was R&D going on while the other parts of the business were having issues.

As to your manifold... Let me straighten something out... Your current manifold by no means is a bad design and actually is very well suited for the smaller turbos that most people get with the kit. The new V3 is geared more towards the larger frame turbos and is a natural progression from their early developments.

So to repeat there was NOT a design flaw in your manifold. In fact is was a manufacturing issue... If you know much about iron casting then you will know that there are several factors that effect the outcome of a cast. What happens in the cases of our cracked or in my case a hole... is that there is oxygen within the iron cast or the mix of iron and heat was not ideal causing weak spots in the manifold... After many heat cycles the Iron much like a clay brick begins to develop cracks if it is not the right mixture or temperament. In the case of oxygen you will find a massive hole where it heated up and blew out a chunk and then cracks... When these are produced in high volume you end up with issues like we have seen affecting multiple people. This is why I am hoping GTM will offer an upgrade path at a discount for current owners...

I also talked to Todd and yes GTM was expecting them to be ready earlier but look at it this way would you rather be where you are now 6 months to a year from now... or would you rather enjoy your new manifolds for years to come?

You can choose to be pessimistic but please keep the drama out of this thread.

Thanks!

No drama here but the fact of having almost 10k invested in a turbo kit that is now busted with nothing but excuses to boot on how it happened. I understand the mechanics on why and how it happened but now you seem to think its all better because gtm has had an epiphany and all is good now. Well it isn't along with many many others who have cracked manifolds as well. Yes I'm tickled in my boots that gtm is redesigning new things to sell and this time around our hard earned money will be sent out of country making disputes impossible.. Call me sam and lets have a talk, you know my number...

Another new thread about GTM? :wtf:

Just sam trying to spread his cancer for a second go around.. Everyone get your credit cars ready because this time he has it right...

Is that a ceramic or metal substrate cat? If it's one of the "high flow" metal types, I doubt it will last long under boost. The s2k's blow right through them in months depending on driving/hp though I do understand they are flowing quite a bit more through one exhaust pipe (the stock F20/F22 blocks put our similar numbers as the VQs).

GTM=Grave To Money

Please stop trying to stir the pot... continue to do so and the mods will be in here.

Sam isnt posting this information and he is definitely not asking us to post this information... Yes you have had some hard times and we are all witnesses to it. so instead of sitting in here and bitching about it I would be on the phones every day calling GTM... I would be emailing them... I would even fly out and speak directly to SAM... Dont know where the new shop is? Ask someone!

Yes you have a cracked manifold... is it because of bad design... NO! is it because of a manufacturing QC issue... YES. Sam and the other members of GTM have said that they plan to make it right with people take it for what you will. If you cant wait then weld your Manifold... Or Go get Fast Intentions Manifolds and modify your kit... Your so boned up on GTM that you aren't looking for solutions to the problems... I guess thats the difference between me and you. I fix problems all day every day! I do it for a living! When I had problems I didnt get on here and bitch out... No I sat in my garage and rebuilt my whole freaking turbo kit from the ground up on JACK STANDS!!! I also called Sam and hounded him for a week during his move and requested a new set of manifolds... Guess what?!? I had mine in a damn week! I didnt care if they were new or used just to get me a set in good condition...

I got them and modified them and now I have a running car no issues *knock on wood* and we are running 930rwhp on pump gas daily!

Calm your roll or :gtfo2:

S2000's also have some of the hottest exhausts on the market... I have literally seen them start fires! But I tend to agree that close to the turbo those cats will be punished.

I don't care where and how you built your turbo kit and to be frankly I would like to know why you so ready to try and make gtm look good now that they have come out with something new? What are you getting out of it? All sam ever does is blame his bs on other people and things because he's not man enough to own it. The man should be in jail for all of the money that was not refunded when he knew he was filing to bankruptcy. So please keep pushing your crap with gtm and threatening me with the moderators here. What did you expect to start a thread and have everyone back on the gtm fan club after what he did here to many people. If you did than your a bigger idiot than I thought... Anyone want to bet gtm is somehow sponsoring this fool to promote more of their crap because they were banned from this forum... So maybe you should take your own advice and delete this worthless thread and cut the crap with gtm because there is No fixing it with them...:owned::gtfo2:

I am also going to fcuk with GTM again as long as they fix the manifolds and deliver peoples product on time. I would do business with GTM under certain conditions. One I will not be transferring any funds directly to Sam account. Two, I will either pay via Paypal or CC and use either as a safety net in case his word's doesn't match up with his action's. GTM catalog is too good for me to just do away with them. Sam is inconsistent but he is a man that knows he has no other choice but to do right from here on out or else GTM will come to an end.

Mine you they're on life support so SAM can't afford to fcuk up, this is GTM last opportunity to make it right for they sake. Lastly, I opted to post my comments on my own. No one made me write this for the record nor am I getting any favors for this because at the end of the day SAM can kiss my *** however I am willing to do business with him once more if he can follow through on his words.

Im going to ask to put away the pitchforks as YOU have made your concerns perfectly clear once again, and so its time to move on or take it to social media.

GTM is no longer a vendor so ease off the venom. :shakes head:

I can only hope the Op's and Mike's comments come true for the benefit of the poor folks still waiting for whats due too them.

Also for the potential customers that GTM can have when, And IF they get their things in order as what it sounds like they are trying to do.

PLEASE move on with the negative comments.

I would rather not be put in a position I would need to act as everyone already knows I don't have a problem escalating things.


Back to dinner at The Cheesecake Factory :yum:

Talked to Sam, sent me some more pictures of the V3 kit, updated the first post and added the pictures.

Updated first post, Sam sent me some pictures of the new shop as they settle in.

Update- A Gamma Motors V3 TT got delivered to me on October 28 like literally right before I left to Sema, I was extremely excited. :happydance::happydance: It was amazing that in the first few times I talked to Amin, he did more in a few hours than GTM did in over two years, him and his team would religiously keep me up to date via emails and calls, it was awesome. Finally when it was shipped, it was delivered in less than a week. I haven't had much time been extremely busy being sick and lots of work I will try to add some more details later. :tiphat:
My apologies Administrators, please let me know if breaking any rules and my Z bothers please keep it clean thank you!

I talked to Amin yesterday, he seems all over it,
Looking forward to any updates,
I will get my kit soon

Agreed. Amin seems like a good guy and leveled with me over the phone. Goes a long way, and he is trying hard to make people happy. Hope it continues!