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KcL@AOI 07-21-2013 09:13 AM

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darli328 07-21-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KcL@AOI (Post 2412400)
Yea when there is a crease that sharp on the body line its pointless to glue pull, cause your gonna risk pinching the dent shut and thats gonna make it even harder to get out. On quarter panels theres no access unless its a bmw or mercedes cause they have secret plugs in the quarter well. Im about 99% sure that if you take out the tail light and stick a ultra thin whale tail you could easily get it out. Theres no access under trim or bumper. I would take the tailight out like i said before and stick a long ultra thin whale tail. if that doesnt work last resort is to beat the dent out. what i mean by this is to beat to the sides of the crease. of course its gonna make the dent bigger, but its also gonna make the dent less sharp. your basicly gonna make the dent more shallow and soft do you can stick a glue tab on it and pull it up. theres no way to just stick a glue tab on that sharp of a dent.

this is the company i work for, its just me and my boss.
heres the link if you want to take a look at some of our work.

Welcome to Dentmagix

heres a pic of a ultra thin whale tail.
uk/d21.htmlhttp://denttoolcompany.nl/contents/en-uk/d21.html

its long so you can stick it right through the tail light hole with nothing in your way. make sure he tries with the tail light out. sometimes i get lazy myself and try and do it with the tail light in, takes twice as long and doesn't come out perfect.

Sorry for the response!

Thanks so much for the response, I'll talk with my tech tomorrow and see what he says.

darli328 07-21-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KcL@AOI (Post 2412400)
Yea when there is a crease that sharp on the body line its pointless to glue pull, cause your gonna risk pinching the dent shut and thats gonna make it even harder to get out. On quarter panels theres no access unless its a bmw or mercedes cause they have secret plugs in the quarter well. Im about 99% sure that if you take out the tail light and stick a ultra thin whale tail you could easily get it out. Theres no access under trim or bumper. I would take the tailight out like i said before and stick a long ultra thin whale tail. if that doesnt work last resort is to beat the dent out. what i mean by this is to beat to the sides of the crease. of course its gonna make the dent bigger, but its also gonna make the dent less sharp. your basicly gonna make the dent more shallow and soft do you can stick a glue tab on it and pull it up. theres no way to just stick a glue tab on that sharp of a dent.

this is the company i work for, its just me and my boss.
heres the link if you want to take a look at some of our work.

Welcome to Dentmagix

heres a pic of a ultra thin whale tail.
uk/d21.htmlhttp://denttoolcompany.nl/contents/en-uk/d21.html

its long so you can stick it right through the tail light hole with nothing in your way. make sure he tries with the tail light out. sometimes i get lazy myself and try and do it with the tail light in, takes twice as long and doesn't come out perfect.

Sorry for the response!

I did some searching on tail light removal. Got a lot of info off this thread.

http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...p-install.html

Does it look like there is a big enough access hole behind the tail light to get to my dent? I see a few small potential access holes, just not sure if that's good enough for my situation.

darli328 07-31-2013 07:09 PM

Incase anyone's curious. Went to a body shop today. They managed to get the dent out without drilling by removing the interior truck pieces. The results aren't perfect. I'd say 90-95% of the dent is gone, not too bad all things considered. But, it is possible to gain access to the metal behind the rear quarter panel through the trunk. Thanks again for everyone's help.

kenchan 07-31-2013 07:38 PM

Just over the weekend my G35C got hit by a rock or something dented the hood about 2" inward. I used the tab holes to gain access to get about 90% out. Then enlarged the hole using a metal cutting dremel to get the last 10% out.

That is the difference between good and great work. :D

If you let the shop drill you can get the rest of it out.

darli328 08-01-2013 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2427591)
Just over the weekend my G35C got hit by a rock or something dented the hood about 2" inward. I used the tab holes to gain access to get about 90% out. Then enlarged the hole using a metal cutting dremel to get the last 10% out.

That is the difference between good and great work. :D

If you let the shop drill you can get the rest of it out.

Here's a pic of what it looks like. What do you think? Not sure if they could get much more out...

kenchan 08-01-2013 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by darli328 (Post 2427939)
Here's a pic of what it looks like. What do you think? Not sure if they could get much more out...

yah, lots of high spot distortion. :eekdance: but that's probably the best you can do without drilling via pdr especially on decorative lines. :) as long as you're happy with it that's wat matters.

btw, that amount of high spots means you got missing paint in the inner quarter panel where the tool pushed unless the tech touch it up for you. so you have exposed metal which is no different than drilling. at least with drilling, most techs will seal it using silicone before plugging it...and with a usable access hole, the tech will have direct access to the dent so he would do much less guessing... ie much less high spot distortion.

darli328 08-01-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2428493)
yah, lots of high spot distortion. :eekdance: but that's probably the best you can do without drilling via pdr especially on decorative lines. :) as long as you're happy with it that's wat matters.

btw, that amount of high spots means you got missing paint in the inner quarter panel where the tool pushed unless the tech touch it up for you. so you have exposed metal which is no different than drilling. at least with drilling, most techs will seal it using silicone before plugging it...and with a usable access hole, the tech will have direct access to the dent so he would do much less guessing... ie much less high spot distortion.

Yeah, I figured that's the best I'm going to get without drilling and/or repainting. I'm not 100% happy with it but I'm more happy now than I was with the dent so I guess that's what matters and I just need to learn to live with it.

Btw, I'm guessing my only real option now would be to have it sanded/painted? Just curious, with my luck I'll get more damage on the same panel in the future.

ZWalt 08-01-2013 03:21 PM

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Here's what a nice little hail stone did to my fender. The dent popped out nicely and it looks like new. In my case though they did repaint the car - had to replace hood, roof and hatch.

kenchan 08-01-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by darli328 (Post 2428578)
Yeah, I figured that's the best I'm going to get without drilling and/or repainting. I'm not 100% happy with it but I'm more happy now than I was with the dent so I guess that's what matters and I just need to learn to live with it.

Btw, I'm guessing my only real option now would be to have it sanded/painted? Just curious, with my luck I'll get more damage on the same panel in the future.

Yah, the dots you see are base coat deformed under the clearcoat. Can't fix that without repaint.

kenchan 08-01-2013 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ZWalt (Post 2428689)
Here's what a nice little hail stone did to my fender. The dent popped out nicely and it looks like new. In my case though they did repaint the car - had to replace hood, roof and hatch.

Then that's not paintless dent removal then, huh? :icon17:

darli328 08-02-2013 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2428759)
Then that's not paintless dent removal then, huh? :icon17:

I'm assuming he was implying they didn't do any drilling but I could be wrong.

Thanks again for all the info. I wasn't completely sure if there was a way to get ride of those makes without painting. What you said makes perfect sense though. I'm honestly just happy I didn't have to drill, with my luck my fender will get damaged again in the future and I'll have to repaint it then anyways.


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