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tjlazer 02-20-2013 03:46 PM

I didn't get the Nismo fender liners, I was able to use my OEM ones with a little cutting. I'll post pics later.

scruffydog 02-20-2013 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 2176122)
I didn't get the Nismo fender liners, I was able to use my OEM ones with a little cutting. I'll post pics later.

After looking at it side by side, it's totally do-able.

LONDON2012 02-20-2013 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by scruffydog (Post 2159042)
Yes, I love these wheels (Sport Rays over Nismo Rays). I've seen this 40th Anniversary Edition video before too.
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/o...psda174369.png

Do you have a link to more info on this 40th? I love to see more of it. :tiphat: Thanks

Boss_302 02-21-2013 11:30 AM

So yet another installment in the Nismo conversion, I'm still collecting parts, driving down to PA to pick up the bumper cover, good price, saved on shipping and I have the opportunity to make sure nothing is damage and save the hassle of shipping it back.
Also I think the “made in china” fender liners is a good buy instead of hacking up the factory standard liners, if for some reason you want to return the car to stock you have the parts, As for the splash shield belly pan, I order one up from CZP, and was delivered yesterday, it came in stamped with a Nission part number, with No Made in china stickers on it. There is a slight difference were the rectangular cover at the bottom bolts in there, are some square opening for clips. Now this part as sold from CZP was $115 + the shipping, so I can’t understand why Nission is quoting over 1k for this. It’s just plastic nothing special. Another one of those mysteries in life

Boss_302 02-21-2013 12:17 PM

I'm guessing, as far as I can tell,it appears that way. After seeing what you bought this is what I though they would send. It did not come with the retangler cover plate to streamline the air flow on the bottom, but this I can fab up with some alum. sheet metal.

scruffydog 02-21-2013 12:23 PM

I can help you if you need in the dimension...It'll be a piece of cake. And awesome for you getting it for that cheap!

Boss_302 02-21-2013 12:27 PM

P.S.
I want to thank you for the amount of detail you have shown here, it has saved me a lot of surprises from going into this completely cold. Usually from my many years of experience in building cars and racing it’s always a step by step process, even when fully thought out there is always some twist to it.

Boss_302 02-24-2013 09:27 AM

Picked up the Nismo bumper cover yesterday, it’s a beautiful thing.
As far as the splash shield bottom tray$$$ mystery, the $1k+ part number is G5829-1A30A, the one I bought has a # G5829-1A30C on it, I crossed check this with Nission parts on the net and it list for MSRP $144.32 which explains the $115.00 price I paid.

scruffydog 02-25-2013 12:03 AM

Anyone know the NISMO VERSION P/N for this?
 
So the OEM Base/Sport/Touring version of this part does not extend far enough for the Nismo Undershroud. Anyone know what the NISMO OEM P/N is for this?

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps310dcc8a.png

Boss_302 02-25-2013 01:50 PM

Scruffy,
My thinking was the same as yours, with the ducting to the radiator; I bought a pair of these thinking it was part of the Nismo conversion. Since it was in the dealer Nismo parts list, but in reality it’s the same as the base, I also did some cross checking and can't find anything different, Usually I been finding the part description will say (w/Nismo ) if it is part of the factory conversion.
Does this become critical for normal street car? No! As long as the perimeter of the radiator is seal so airflow will not by-pass it, air will find its way to the radiator at speed do to air pressure differential , also there is a fan on the backside of the radiator to pull air through. If this was an open wheel car aka formula type, it’s a different story. A ducted opening with zero by-pass to the radiator core was critical in decreasing temperature at speed.
What I would do is rivet some plastic or aluminum sheeting to inside inlet of the bumper cover grill area to make up the difference, make it so it overlaps the inner splash shields and seal it with some glued on foam strips.

scruffydog 02-25-2013 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Boss_302 (Post 2183401)
Scruffy,
My thinking was the same as yours, with the ducting to the radiator; I bought a pair of these thinking it was part of the Nismo conversion. Since it was in the dealer Nismo parts list, but in reality it’s the same as the base, I also did some cross checking and can't find anything different, Usually I been finding the part description will say (w/Nismo ) if it is part of the factory conversion.
Does this become critical for normal street car? No! As long as the perimeter of the radiator is seal so airflow will not by-pass it, air will find its way to the radiator at speed do to air pressure differential , also there is a fan on the backside of the radiator to pull air through. If this was an open wheel car aka formula type, it’s a different story. A ducted opening with zero by-pass to the radiator core was critical in decreasing temperature at speed.
What I would do is rivet some plastic or aluminum sheeting to inside inlet of the bumper cover grill area to make up the difference, make it so it overlaps the inner splash shields and seal it with some glued on foam strips.

Yea, I actually have no intention to buy em as they won't do much for the car. At some point I even thought about taking them out when I did the brake duct / Oil Cooler installation. It'd be nice though if someone that has a Nismo 370z could fill in the p/n. How's your build coming along btw? I took dimensions of that Undertray piece for you. If you end up with a Zspeed Undertray, you wouldn't need it as it doesn't use it.

Boss_302 02-25-2013 03:51 PM

I picked up the Nismo cover on Sat, started prepping the nose to do away with the Nission emblem and fill it in. Have to collect all the fasteners and make brackets ect, so I basically getting started. I have the plastic under tray, The Z-1 tray is nice but I want to install an oil cooler when I do the conversion so I can get it all done in one shot and I can drive this thing as the weather gets nicer here.

Boss_302 02-27-2013 11:34 AM

So I'm at a project site today and I'm looking at the raised floor and walls and I found the perfect materal we can use to make up the difference between the inner fender splash liner and fender lip, rubber cove base, it comes in black and other colors, its heavy and flexable and easy to cut, it also has a nice finish edge. Best part I got a 4ft strip from the contractor at no cost!

scruffydog 02-27-2013 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Boss_302 (Post 2187033)
So I'm at a project site today and I'm looking at the raised floor and walls and I found the perfect materal we can use to make up the difference between the inner fender splash liner and fender lip, rubber cove base, it comes in black and other colors, its heavy and flexable and easy to cut, it also has a nice finish edge. Best part I got a 4ft strip from the contractor at no cost!

Please do share when you get the chance. My car currently is at the shop getting the paint job already but I'm still missing some Fender Protector pieces which I intent to hack up something. The idea is to use some flexible too.

Boss_302 02-27-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by scruffydog (Post 2187066)
Please do share when you get the chance. My car currently is at the shop getting the paint job already but I'm still missing some Fender Protector pieces which I intent to hack up something. The idea is to use some flexible too.

At this point all I can feed you is my ideas; you are 10 steps ahead of me on this, I am at least a month away before I pull it all apart. And I have Nismo sway bars to install yet. Got a geart deal from Z1, Paid $268 + shipping.:icon17:
I order the front inner splash fenders from the same Auto Parts place you used,
Called them like you said to get the correct part.
Also order the Stillen license plate mount that screws into the tow hook thing.
That needs to be modified and made longer cause the nose is longer. At least this gives me the option of running without a front plate without destroying the nose with a plate mount

tjlazer 02-28-2013 12:46 PM

Just wanted to make you guys aware of a problem with the front bumper. When it gets painted make sure that they do a good job on the grill area and that they do not paint the bumper first and then paint the grill black, as this will cause issues. Rock chips will make the black paint chip and it'll look like crap!

scruffydog 02-28-2013 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 2189327)
Just wanted to make you guys aware of a problem with the front bumper. When it gets painted make sure that they do a good job on the grill area and that they do not paint the bumper first and then paint the grill black, as this will cause issues. Rock chips will make the black paint chip and it'll look like crap!

thanks for letting me know! I will tell my body shop. Do you know if it's a flat black paint they use on the grill?

Boss_302 02-28-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by scruffydog (Post 2189340)
thanks for letting me know! I will tell my body shop. Do you know if it's a flat black paint they use on the grill?

From photos I seen it looks like a matt black, semi gloss finish.
If he is a good body painter he should be able to find out and match it.
In your case would it matter since you Z is black. My Z is silver and if it chiped, well it would look like crap if that was the case.
Those factory racing mesh grilles look nice, wish someone made them state side so you don't have to pay a fortune, Made one once for an AH bugeye Sprite, alot of work!

martin82 02-28-2013 04:13 PM

For plastic that u can cut, u can use a black trash can..... that's what I used for repair my under tray!

gurneyeagle 02-28-2013 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by scruffydog (Post 2189340)
thanks for letting me know! I will tell my body shop. Do you know if it's a flat black paint they use on the grill?

When I had my conversion done, the shop didn't paint it black. I went back and did it myself with PlastiDip. It really is the best thing to use becuase that area really collects the rock chips.

I had 3M clear bra down there before the PlastiDip, and it still got torn up. I simply painted ove the clear bra and have had zero problems. It's really easy to touch up PlastiDip too.

TonySlimfast 03-01-2013 03:39 PM

so whats whats the total cost did you guys have to spend to do the conversion, i would imagine it be different depending on how much hacking youd have to do

Boss_302 03-01-2013 09:37 PM

Personally, no more than $1,700.00 for the front bumper change out including paint, depends how talented your are!

scruffydog 03-01-2013 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gurneyeagle (Post 2189730)
When I had my conversion done, the shop didn't paint it black. I went back and did it myself with PlastiDip. It really is the best thing to use becuase that area really collects the rock chips.

I had 3M clear bra down there before the PlastiDip, and it still got torn up. I simply painted ove the clear bra and have had zero problems. It's really easy to touch up PlastiDip too.

I intend to paint it whichever black first for the grill and then my body color (magnetic black) for the bumper. Then I'm going to do a wrap. So you're saying rock chips still tore up your clear bra in the grill area? wow

scruffydog 03-01-2013 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TonySlimfast (Post 2191658)
so whats whats the total cost did you guys have to spend to do the conversion, i would imagine it be different depending on how much hacking youd have to do

Yes it'll be slightly cheaper, I've also found some really good deal on my parts so I don't think we can use my cost as a benchmark.

scruffydog 03-02-2013 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by martin82 (Post 2189678)
For plastic that u can cut, u can use a black trash can..... that's what I used for repair my under tray!

Genius thanks!

tjlazer 03-02-2013 04:29 PM

They told me they always paint the whole bumper first, then paint the grill area black! But they forgot to paint it in my case too and I pointed it out they painted it black. A few months later it was chipping and I could see blue specs all over! I have to repaint it sometime, going to do it myself...

Boss_302 03-17-2013 08:35 AM

So what happen to the finished product??

1cleanZ 03-17-2013 10:14 PM

Do we have an official part list for the full swap? Truly trying to decide if I want to purchase a Nismo, or just purchase a sport and do this swap.

Its hard to justify a Nismo knowing I'll be swapping wheels, exhaust, and eventually retuning. The Nismo upgrades are just Body, wheels and exhaust/tune right?

scruffydog 03-18-2013 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by | 1cleang | (Post 2218521)
Do we have an official part list for the full swap? Truly trying to decide if I want to purchase a Nismo, or just purchase a sport and do this swap.

Its hard to justify a Nismo knowing I'll be swapping wheels, exhaust, and eventually retuning. The Nismo upgrades are just Body, wheels and exhaust/tune right?

just get a nismo up front, by the time you swap everything, it'll cost too much.

Currently my car's at the shop getting a paint job. I'm painting the whole car again and then get a clear bra. stay tuned.

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps3acc4507.jpg

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/o...psacc877ff.jpg

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/o...psa3b2598d.jpg

TonySlimfast 03-18-2013 01:18 PM

i wish the roadster came nismo.... its soo cleann on a roadster

DarkJak 03-18-2013 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by | 1cleang | (Post 2218521)
Do we have an official part list for the full swap? Truly trying to decide if I want to purchase a Nismo, or just purchase a sport and do this swap.

Its hard to justify a Nismo knowing I'll be swapping wheels, exhaust, and eventually retuning. The Nismo upgrades are just Body, wheels and exhaust/tune right?

Nismo wheels usually fetch you 1k more than sports wheels. Stock nismo goes for 500 usually, while stock goes for 200. And nismo's have the different stitching.

I'd just go for the Nismo if that's the look you want.

Voice59 03-18-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by | 1cleang | (Post 2218521)
Do we have an official part list for the full swap? Truly trying to decide if I want to purchase a Nismo, or just purchase a sport and do this swap.

Its hard to justify a Nismo knowing I'll be swapping wheels, exhaust, and eventually retuning. The Nismo upgrades are just Body, wheels and exhaust/tune right?

Pretty much... In my opinion I think purchasing the Nismo is a waste of money. No offense to actual owners of the Nismo, because I definitely intended to get one.. But look at what you're getting for the extra money. You're spending pretty much an extra what, 6-8k for an exhaust a bodykit and a tune. C'mon... I spent 700 on a kit that looks almost identical if not better than the Nismo kit and I purchased an intake an exhaust for wayyyy less than the 5.3k. LOL You do the math man.

takjak2 03-18-2013 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Voice59 (Post 2219706)
Pretty much... In my opinion I think purchasing the Nismo is a waste of money. No offense to actual owners of the Nismo, because I definitely intended to get one.. But look at what you're getting for the extra money. You're spending pretty much an extra what, 6-8k for an exhaust a bodykit and a tune. C'mon... I spent 700 on a kit that looks almost identical if not better than the Nismo kit and I purchased an intake an exhaust for wayyyy less than the 5.3k. LOL You do the math man.


Real aerodynamics, Yamaha tuned body dampers, springs and dampers, stiffened front chassis bar, sway bars front and rear, wider forged wheels (and tires), tune, exhaust, red stitching on everything, embroidery, tach, individual build number, better resale value, special treatment at the dealership, exclusivity, status symbol, etc

There is a reason people try to copy it and desire the badge.

/eagles

Voice59 03-18-2013 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by takjak2 (Post 2219938)
Real aerodynamics, Yamaha tuned body dampers, springs and dampers, stiffened front chassis bar, sway bars front and rear, wider forged wheels (and tires), tune, exhaust, red stitching on everything, embroidery, tach, individual build number, better resale value, special treatment at the dealership, exclusivity, status symbol, etc

There is a reason people try to copy it and desire the badge.

/eagles

You can get real aerodynamics from a number of other body kits. And all the other parts you can acquire on your own of possibly better quality. I can understand the status symbol... but let's be honest it's still a Z. A slightly better Z than the sport package one, but a Z nontheless. And I'm not exactly sure if you can speak for every dealer when it comes to special treatment.

Getting a Nismo is kind of like getting a special edition Scion. Yeah...you can say you're one of the few that got it...but in the end you're still driving a scion. And in no way am I comparing the performance of a Nismo to a Scion....like I said I was in the market for one until I found out exactly what it was I'd be paying extra for.

Judging from what I've seen on this site alone, most people end up changing half the stuff you mentioned anyway...

Voice59 03-18-2013 06:36 PM

All I'm saying is if he isn't absolutely in love with the Nismo and doesn't plan on changing anything on it... then there's no actual need to spend the extra money and get it.

If he's going to get wheels/coilovers/bodykit/exhaust/seats/ or anything else that sets the Nismo apart from a Sport or Touring then he might as well just convert rather than purchase a Nismo... because he's just going to change everything that made it a Nismo other than the build number and badges.

MJB 03-18-2013 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Voice59 (Post 2219953)

Getting a Nismo is kind of like getting a special edition Scion. Yeah...you can say you're one of the few that got it...but in the end you're still driving a scion. And in no way am I comparing the performance of a Nismo to a Scion....like I said I was in the market for one until I found out exactly what it was I'd be paying extra for.

:gtfo2: That analogy is absurd.... never..ever compare a Z to any Scion lol

Voice59 03-18-2013 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 2219971)
:gtfo2: That analogy is absurd.... never..ever compare a Z to any Scion lol

LOL.. I knew somebody would say it. I'm just saying the difference between a Nismo and Sport or Touring is not worth the money. LOL Haha...

scruffydog 04-26-2013 06:14 PM

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps436b45fd.jpg
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps2486db4e.jpg
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with black rivets painted the same body molding flat black as the grill
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RoshDawg 04-26-2013 07:38 PM

Those ducts are awesome!

scruffydog 04-27-2013 07:39 PM

Thanks!


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