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kenchan 07-29-2012 09:02 PM

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RiCharlie 07-29-2012 09:19 PM

Sorry but I disagree with some of the posters..in a friendly way..

I have adjusted the mirrors as suggested and yes you can improve things but.. there are still blind spots..

The driver side mirror angle is not wide enough to see all possible vehicles approaching on the left out of view of the main rear view mirror. For example, You cant see a car two lanes over on your left and slightly beside you and possibly crossing over into your lane..especially if you are on an access road entering a main road..which increases the angle needed to see it...or even a car close behind and on the left even one lane over..And if you do adjust your side view to cover that vehicle you will find a big blind spot to the left and slightly behind at less an angle...

and dont even mention what happens when you stop at a crossing when another road intersects at a an angle much less than 90 degrees...and you cant see down the road through the windshield...that is a really tough situation ..

and check this out Notice the cons..

http://www.edmunds.com/nissan/370z/2012/


I know these are extreme situations but a simple small flat mirror attached to the side ones would greatly improve the situation..so where can I buy one? I am thinking I might have to get a mirror and cut it myself and paste it inside one of those convex side mirrors they sell for about 3 bucks.. the ones that glue to the mirror..

whoady4shoady 07-29-2012 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdog1250 (Post 1844062)
Or you just set your mirrors correctly (so you don't see the side of your car in them) and you will have no real blind spots...

:iagree: I dont have these mystical blind spots everyone speaks of. I have mirrors and know how to use them.

SailFree 07-29-2012 10:21 PM

Ummm...if the mirror was flat, you wouldn't have any increased field of vision! Your stock mirror is flat! One secret is to wing out the mirrors just about as far as they will go. This will cover your blind spot. You also have to watch rear traffic a bit more religiously than you do in other cars. It is a problem but one that can be overcome.

SailFree 07-29-2012 10:23 PM

If the car is two lanes over, it won't hit you but you have to make up your mind and move quickly, even accelerating a little to make sure you get into the lane you want out of range of that two-lanes-over car. I also turn my head and glance back quickly just before any lane change in traffic.

RiCharlie 07-29-2012 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SailFree (Post 1844561)
Ummm...if the mirror was flat, you wouldn't have any increased field of vision! Your stock mirror is flat!

Maybe I did not explain it correctly..if you have seen those convex mirrors you know they rest in a small rectangular "thing" that sits on the side mirror on an angle.

Putting a small flat mirror on this surface would give a view of just as many degrees as the regular side mirrors but because it is on a slanted surface which is resting on that side mirror it would show a DIFFERENT view

..They key point being that it is not facing you at the same angle as the main mirror..and so does not duplicate the side mirror view.

The two mirrors, taken together, would show a much broader field of view and, since the small mirror is flat and not convex, the image would not shrink to such a tiny image as is now the case..

I will be away for a couple of days..so if this is not clear maybe someone else can help..

RiCharlie 07-29-2012 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SailFree (Post 1844566)
If the car is two lanes over, it won't hit you but you have to make up your mind and move quickly, even accelerating a little to make sure you get into the lane you want out of range of that two-lanes-over car. I also turn my head and glance back quickly just before any lane change in traffic.

Yes but you have to see it first and I want to be able to do that quickly and easily..

I think i will build one and post some pics...to me its a very simple idea that makes a lot of sense and would greatly increase any drivers view in any car,..,not just the Z..

djpathfinder 07-29-2012 11:32 PM

Some people use circular CONVEX mirrors on the edges of the side view mirror (double-sided tape). CONVEX is what you need to cover a much broader area...much better than flat mirrors at an angle. Try an automotive supply shop, even Pep Boys. Also keep in mind, you still need to turn your head and shoulder check...these tips and supplementary mirrors/add-ons HELP improve your vision, but you still need to actively look for traffic and obstructions.

vermithrax 07-30-2012 12:28 AM

I have found that setting the mirrors to their extreme outside limits helps a lot. If no one is in the passenger seat, I can even see out of the small back window if the passenger seat is all the way reclined. That helps a lot.

There is a blind spot, but if your mirrors are set correctly, it isn't too bad. If I think there may be someone in my blind spot, I speed up and double check.

Usually it is more of a problem of me being in the blind spot of someones SUV. Being higher/taller than me, an SUV sometimes can't see me even if I am out of what would normallly be considered their "blind" area.

UNKNOWN_370 07-30-2012 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RiCharlie (Post 1844499)
Sorry but I disagree with some of the posters..in a friendly way..

I have adjusted the mirrors as suggested and yes you can improve things but.. there are still blind spots..

The driver side mirror angle is not wide enough to see all possible vehicles approaching on the left out of view of the main rear view mirror. For example, You cant see a car two lanes over on your left and slightly beside you and possibly crossing over into your lane..especially if you are on an access road entering a main road..which increases the angle needed to see it...or even a car close behind and on the left even one lane over..And if you do adjust your side view to cover that vehicle you will find a big blind spot to the left and slightly behind at less an angle...

and dont even mention what happens when you stop at a crossing when another road intersects at a an angle much less than 90 degrees...and you cant see down the road through the windshield...that is a really tough situation ..

and check this out Notice the cons..

2012 Nissan 370Z


I know these are extreme situations but a simple small flat mirror attached to the side ones would greatly improve the situation..so where can I buy one? I am thinking I might have to get a mirror and cut it myself and paste it inside one of those convex side mirrors they sell for about 3 bucks.. the ones that glue to the mirror..

Don't take it wrong and I'm Sorry to disagree with you but with all three mirrors adjusted properly. There are NO blind-spots on the Z to the rear with the mirrors properly adjusted. The only blind spot i can find and its seating position dependent, is the right front side mirror at times may block the view of oncoming traffic. again, correctable by finding the perfect driving seating position.

In my opinion the blind spot issue is GROSSLY exaggerated by only a minimal amount of owners. In the end, it just boils down The Z isn't a car for everyone. These are drivers cars and maybe small sciences of driving aren't a skill everyone has. cars like the genesis coupe are awesome for the sport car driving novice due to an airy cabin that's solid and free of most road noise,also, the rear sloped window allows for minimal mirror adjusting by giving your a insta-view of the rear with the twist of your neck. The Z causes you to lean forward and sideways to look behind you and using the mirrors to eliminate blind spot takes someone with a good eye and understanding how the mirrors magnify. I think its your driving confidence in the Z with the generally blocked view more than the mirrors you are concerned about.

Maybe the z was the wrong car brother?

PapoZalsa 07-30-2012 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 1844079)
Nissan should have installed a blind spot warning system like many other vehicles do.

:iagree:

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiCharlie (Post 1844023)
If that small mirror were flat instead of curved that would solve the problem..

Is a small flat blind spot mirror that sticks on the regular mirrors available?


Low cost cars like the Focus come with them from the factory, why can Nissan get that idea? :shakes head:

Magic Bus 07-30-2012 08:08 PM

Charlie, try Amazon.com and in the search box type, pocket mirror or mini mirror. Not sure how clear these mirrors are and they are not convex. Saw some circular ones that are 2 inches in diameter. That may work for what you're trying to accomplish.

I guess you could double/triple, one side of the mirror with double sided tape. Then on the other side just use a single layer of double sided tape to attach to your mirror and create the angle you would like.

Hope this helps and let us know if you find something that works for you.

RiCharlie 07-31-2012 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 1844634)
Some people use circular CONVEX mirrors on the edges of the side view mirror (double-sided tape). CONVEX is what you need to cover a much broader area...much better than flat mirrors at an angle. Try an automotive supply shop, even Pep Boys. Also keep in mind, you still need to turn your head and shoulder check...these tips and supplementary mirrors/add-ons HELP improve your vision, but you still need to actively look for traffic and obstructions.

Well thanks and Convex does cover a larger area but the image is much smaller..
This is really a very simple idea..and it comes down to this..if you have a small flat mirror that extends the field of vision another say 30 degrees from where it ends that would make a huge difference..especially on the passengers side..where the convex mirror makes things so small its useless..

RiCharlie 07-31-2012 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1845012)
Don't take it wrong and I'm Sorry to disagree with you but with all three mirrors adjusted properly. There are NO blind-spots on the Z to the rear with the mirrors properly adjusted. The only blind spot i can find and its seating position dependent, is the right front side mirror at times may block the view of oncoming traffic. again, correctable by finding the perfect driving seating position.

In my opinion the blind spot issue is GROSSLY exaggerated by only a minimal amount of owners. In the end, it just boils down The Z isn't a car for everyone. These are drivers cars and maybe small sciences of driving aren't a skill everyone has. cars like the genesis coupe are awesome for the sport car driving novice due to an airy cabin that's solid and free of most road noise,also, the rear sloped window allows for minimal mirror adjusting by giving your a insta-view of the rear with the twist of your neck. The Z causes you to lean forward and sideways to look behind you and using the mirrors to eliminate blind spot takes someone with a good eye and understanding how the mirrors magnify. I think its your driving confidence in the Z with the generally blocked view more than the mirrors you are concerned about.

Maybe the z was the wrong car brother?

Well i disagree with you brother..there is a serious blind spot on the right rear and adding additional vision on the left is always a plus..but not if the object is reduced in size as the case with a convex mirror..

RiCharlie 07-31-2012 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magic Bus (Post 1845960)
Charlie, try Amazon.com and in the search box type, pocket mirror or mini mirror. Not sure how clear these mirrors are and they are not convex. Saw some circular ones that are 2 inches in diameter. That may work for what you're trying to accomplish.

I guess you could double/triple, one side of the mirror with double sided tape. Then on the other side just use a single layer of double sided tape to attach to your mirror and create the angle you would like.

Hope this helps and let us know if you find something that works for you.

I think this is a good idea..its just that I would prefer something already made..they sell convex ones for three bucks so this should be a cheap and simple way of getting more vision..which to me is always a plus EVEN to those that insist there are no blind spots..


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