I cant wait!

you guys are in for a treat!!! The design for the widebody is off the hook! I just got off the phone with John and I think we have a style that will have both looks and performance! :D John I will talk to you later tonight and I am excited to drop of the car next saturday! got my plane tickets purchased for my trip back home WOOT WOOT!!!

So when do we get to see it?!?!

cool... look fwd to seeing the drawing as well

I cant show you guys yet... but John and his team are working something up to present as a product. We don't want the design or any of the design cues stolen as this kit really is that good... Imagine the best parts of AMUSE, Du-Luck and Nismo wrapped up into 1 beautiful flowing kit!!!:happydance: hows that for a teaser :tup:

I def want to see it but knowing it's widebody I know it's totally out of the question for me.

I just want a lip! LOL.

Me too. I just wanted a lip. :(

Give it time, guys, they'll probably develop a whole line...:)

Thats the plan! I am working with John to help develop from basic stock replacements all the way to full widebody!!!

I wonder why no one has mentioned a hood yet...

Good Stuff
 

Some of the looks presented in this post are really nice but being an engineer who has done work in wind tunnels I'm wondering who is going to put the kit in a wind tunnel, measure the static pressures and really prove the kit has effective aero and does not induce too much drag? Anyone out there do CFD work at home? 3D CFD would be less expensive than renting a wind tunnel...........

I like the looks and all but without some data to back it up I think the total effectiveness is a big unknown.

Yep, that I believe would be everyone's aim, to have very little drag for a significant increase of downforce, cooling, and venting (hood, fender, etc)

Shush!!! lol thats exactly whats going to be done with the widebody! John is pulling a specialist down to do just that while my car is at his shop :D

As far as a hood John and I are working on a few design ideas... If you have an idea please express it the more ideas the better :)

Mike

Stock hood with some heat vents on either side of the two ribs that form the center.

Ignore the front lip for now. I know that it is lift-generating just by looking at it. Will work on it.

But right now I just penciled in some vents on the stock hood and the Mine's-style openings.

one of my designs I did before the final design:
http://www.the370z.com/members/bulli...superlegga.jpg

A modification of an already beautiful photoshop:
http://www.the370z.com/members/bulli...0zdoluckwb.jpg

Not really digging either of those. Will wait to see your final design!

I like the spoiler on your first design a lot!!! The other parts don't move me. Waiting for the final design...

We really dont need anything crazy...Listen, if you guys want to take on alot of work makes kits for the wild and crazy and for the subtle and refined!

Please take a look at this thread I created a few weeks ago and make something like that!!!

http://www.the370z.com/exterior-inte...attention.html

I like that.

Me too.

Me three... subtle and efficient, goes naturally with OEM design... with the OPTION to bolt on canards and splitter

Thats a simple Lip kit all the way around...

Yep... I think we have to be specific here. There seem to be three styles that we have to differentiate because we cant make everyone happy.

1) Lip kit - Simple, some functionality (air splitters, slight df), accents.

2) Street body kit - for the street, some functionality (air splitters, slight df, cooling ducts/vents) but mostly for styling.

3) Race body kit - Fully functional for downforce and cooling.

If you want to be successful, you will have to commit to one. Otherwise you will make a crappy version of all 3.

I agree somewhat...

You can focus on a the full kit and also focus on a lip kit. I keep saying it:

The Mine's front lip is very nice; delete the upper canard and you have a PERFECT front lip. Replicate and sell!

The Mine's rear spoiler lip is outstanding! Fuse this with the stock spoiler and make a one piece spoiler. Sell it!

If you must have a side lip, Vencitai (i know i butchered that spelling) makes a perfect lip for the sides.

Those front and rear spoiler would not be too difficult to focus on (I would assume...) and they could still focus on the full body kit. Now, they could not do them all at once, maybe that what you are saying RCZ and I did not interpet you correctly...

Agreed to the two top posts.

If we do 3 kits at a time they will be rushed and I might as well send you a civic bumper because it might just fit better than a 3 rushed kits at a time.

The lip kit is a definite but we would need a car for about 2 weeks to go forward with this kit but we wouldn’t be able to take any cars in until mid july.

The first kit we are going to do is a wide body on bullitts car which I want to do perfect to really set us aside. The wide body we want to create to be aerodynamically efficient as well as a too kool for school look. We wont be able to do this unless we have a few interested buyers and at least a deposit from one or two people. We need this because if we are going to take 3 weeks - a month to create a whole new body for a car, we need it to have the money to back us up for a month of lost other work. Since bullitt is working on the kit with us, its up to him on the designs and the interest. We will just build from there.

After that I will get some designs and create a thread for you guys to pick which design you guys like best as far as the street or performance package body kit. So when it comes to the second build, its up to you guys if you want a lip or a full kit, then a performance or a looks kit. We want to leave this to you as a community.

After that if the runner up kit has allot of interest we then can move on to a 3rd kit.

I apologize if I’m confusing you all but I hope I’m being clear haha. How long its going to take to create these 3 kits on top of other side jobs and creations? I’m not too sure exactly because again this is no 1 week job. But who knows maybe after we get a few products out they will be hot enough to let us grow like weeds in a back yard and then we might be able to have two teams working on two designs at once.

Only time will tell

But like RCZ said above. If we take on too many at once they all will lack in quality so all we need is patience. And in that time we will hopefully be able to create a design that will cater to every bodies taste.

I agree...

You can do all three but yes individual detail must be used on each form factor as they appeal to different markets... Just because you decide to make a full product line from top to bottom, from lip kit to widebody does not mean the product line will suck or fail! It all just takes TIME!!!

I wasnt clear enough. I didnt mean if you do them all at the same time you will do a poor job on all 3. Although that is true. What I meant was; don't go out trying to please everyone with one kit because you will end up with a mediocre kit that doesnt fully satisfy anyone.

I think its awesome that you want to start with such a big challenge....needless to say tackling the biggest challenge first means that you are going to know all the small quirks for the other kits. Personally, I'm not all that interested in a widebody, I think if I had a show car I definitely would LOVE to have one, but I can already fit 325's in the rear so there is no real performance aspect for me. I will definitely give you my input though :) This is a process I would like to be involved in.

When you decide to make a racier version...I'm in :)

RCZ the widebody will be performance based and optimized for the least aerodynamic drag as well as taking advantage of the best possible down force designs :D I am going to start a thread on peoples opinions of the design and would love your input!

Mike

Cool, I'm waiting ;) I need a new front bumper ASAP

http://www.the370z.com/images/370zfo...y_jonsibal.jpg

What do yall think about doing something similar to Jon Sibals design?

I like it!

I would rock that one.

:bowrofl:

Me 4. That's what I have in mind.

I think I'm winning so far!

Can I be the first to get it then ;)

BTW - I like that rendering of Jon's but you guys have to understand that part of it looks so well because of the fenders being HUGE...You wouldnt be able to get the front bumper without the wide fenders...and you wont get the wide fenders without the side skirts to match etc etc...your then talking a whole new body of the car.

++++ I delt with aftermarket bumpers being so low and while it can look good for a majority of the time, it becomes the being pain in the *** to maintain the car without scraping/bumping/cracking body. It became exhausting having to drive so worried that anything can ruin the body kit. I want to really enjoy the car.

So far this design seems to go with many peoples likings.

I am only interested in the spliter. If it was just a tad less dramatic and was not so low, it would be PERFECT! If it was Mine's lip low, just perfect...

So this is how I picture the kit looking minus a few details...
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...ttWidebody.jpg

^ needs a whale tail!! :roflpuke2:

As for me, I'd never go with a crazy widebody kit like that. I would like a subtle lip like many have said above, and maybe replacement side-skirts since the paint on white doesn't seem to match on the stock sides compared to the doors and fenders and it looks terrible.

IMO build the lip first, the money you genrate from that can help you do better R&D on the wide-body and racing inspired bumpers for the people that need the aerodynamics.