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AshtonXB370Z 03-13-2012 10:11 PM

Seibon CF Mirrors Covers!!! Buyers Beware
 
Just a warning to my fellow Z owners, if your thinking about purchasing some of Seibons carbon fiber mirror covers u may want think twice. Seibon did a poor job of molding these pieces and clearly developed them for just looks and not functinality. The fitment is terrible and they have to be modified just to get them to function properly so the mirrors can be adjusted without damaging the mirror motors. The instalation is extremely difficult and takes several hours to get them installed corretly. Without the proper tools its impossible. If your looking for a quick easy mirror upgrade i HIGHLY recomend u go a different route and get something else. The mirrors dont come with any instruction wich is crazy considering how involved and complicated the install is. The hardest part is a spring that must be completely compressed with a vice and then bound with a string or wire and then reinstalled into the mirror assembly. The entire process is way to involved for me to explain here so PM me if you have questions. O and dont bothter calling Seibon, they dont know how to install them either if you can believe that!!!

Liquid_G 03-13-2012 10:22 PM

not surprised..

anthonyy 03-13-2012 11:00 PM

wow... pics?

slo 03-13-2012 11:12 PM

It's Seibon, unfortunately that is expected much of the time. Lot of their product is actually heavier than the factory part as well; hoods, trunks.... Speaking in regards to other cars, haven't and won't order Seibon for the 370z.

UNKNOWN_370 03-13-2012 11:56 PM

Wow... so many people have Seibon products without complaints. Well the only complaint I'm familiar with is poor fitment on some cars carbon fiber hoods. But havent heard that in the forum yet.
Thanks for the heads up though. I will be more cautious if I make this type of purchase?
:tiphat:

kuriz32 03-14-2012 02:11 AM

...because Seibon.

slo 03-14-2012 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1598304)
Wow... so many people have Seibon products without complaints. Well the only complaint I'm familiar with is poor fitment on some cars carbon fiber hoods. But havent heard that in the forum yet.
Thanks for the heads up though. I will be more cautious if I make this type of purchase?
:tiphat:

Fitment on my EVO X Seibon hood (most recent seibon purchase) was piss poor also, even after adjusting, you could almost fit a wallet on one side in the gap. The finish also had massive "waves" in it in, very noticeable when the sun was bright out. Couple of spots with bad CF weave.

Called the vendor knowing what was going to happen.....nothing. I have seen "one" out of "many" Seibon hood locally that fit well, appeared to be finished well, this is all without looking close up.

We get Seibon for the looks and sometimes ventilation, plain and simple. Unless you go with dry carbon, it's "significantly" heavier that many factory hoods/trunks. At least they could make it look perfect if it won't fit perfect.

I think when you order Seibon, unfortunately we have lowered our standards since it is so common. Once we see a defect or two, we just deal with it. I myself, won't be getting anything Seibon for my current or future cars.

CSA0890 03-14-2012 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slo (Post 1598757)
Fitment on my EVO X Seibon hood (most recent seibon purchase) was piss poor also, even after adjusting, you could almost fit a wallet on one side in the gap. The finish also had massive "waves" in it in, very noticeable when the sun was bright out. Couple of spots with bad CF weave.

Sounds like youre getting really good ventilation now. Sorry to hear about it though just couldnt resist

TheGreatOne 03-14-2012 11:32 AM

Just out of curiousity, did you contact them about the fitment? Is it possible you got a badly molded piece?

Granted everyone here is saying this is common for Seibon but I have an Evo R front fang that doesn't fit right, but everyone else has perfect fitment. I just got unlucky I guess, bought it 2nd hand so didn't harass the vendor about it

kuriz32 03-14-2012 11:37 AM

Seibon doesn't care if your parts don't fit. They might try and give you a free exchange (you pay return shipping), but their **** is all made in China and Taiwan for pennies so it doesn't really cost them anything giving you a replacement.

Jamaica 03-14-2012 11:40 AM

Mike has these on his car. I wonder how the fitment was

slo 03-14-2012 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGreatOne (Post 1598898)
Just out of curiousity, did you contact them about the fitment? Is it possible you got a badly molded piece?

Vendor couldn't do anything, I gave pics, but the pics wouldn't do any justice for my behalf, I could have sent it back but would have paid out of my own pocket. Just wasn't worth it, I am pretty sure only exchanges are when people are local to the vendor.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSA0890 (Post 1598894)
Sounds like youre getting really good ventilation now. Sorry to hear about it though just couldnt resist

:owned:

pty370z 03-14-2012 11:52 AM

I recently purchased and installed a Seibon GT-R Style CF Hood. No fitment issues here..

kenchan 03-14-2012 01:11 PM

thanks for the heads up. perhaps you can send your mirror covers to CF Elements and they can wrap the cover for you?

HighLatency 03-14-2012 01:12 PM

+1 I have the Seibon TS CF hood, bolted right up in 5 mintues, didn't have to adjust anything other than the height of the rubber stoppers by the hood locks. Fit 100% perfect.

AshtonXB370Z 03-14-2012 02:42 PM

To all,
I regreat i did not take pics of Seibon cf mirrors during install which would really help everyone see why they are so difficult to assemble.
Trust me when i tell you i was way to pissed off to worry about pics when i was trying to get them installed. I was just about ready to rip them off and ship them back. It really got my blood boiling when i called
Seibon and they werer like ( dude what are u talking about) they had absoultely no clue what i was talking about when i told them about the spring! true story.I would say it took me a total of 4.5 to 6 hours to get them completely finished!! I had to take them partially apart a second time bc the mirros were so out of alignment they could not funciton properly. I had to drill extra holes and add additonal hardware to get a proper fit! remember no instrucitons provided or screws. just 2 mirror covers is all u get! Also i purchased a CF BS style hood from them and the fitment on that was also flawed. the Hood is to tall, to short and to narrow!!!!

bullitt5897 03-14-2012 09:41 PM

I have these mirror covers and Had no problems with the install. I feel for the OP and I hope you can ask seibon to replace them with a new set to get them to fit properly.

Mike

Japanjay 03-15-2012 01:46 PM

I own business that is next to a shop that does custom carbon or kevlar in lots and lots of colors for anything. I am tossing the idea around in getting a mold made of various parts. Got quoted on a mold to make the cover for the battery and master cylinder and also the top radiator diffuser, just like the three ones made by PWJDM. At which point I can get them made in pretty much any weave pattern or color that is on the market.... Or if there is a part that is not available that people wish was I can see what I can do as a group buy to cover exspenses. It can not be something that that is not already a peice of the car or on the market already to make a mold, since I already know everyone wants a rear diffuser....

slo 03-15-2012 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Japanjay (Post 1601406)
I own business that is next to a shop that does custom carbon or kevlar in lots and lots of colors for anything. I am tossing the idea around in getting a mold made of various parts. Got quoted on a mold to make the cover for the battery and master cylinder and also the top radiator diffuser, just like the three ones made by PWJDM. At which point I can get them made in pretty much any weave pattern or color that is on the market.... Or if there is a part that is not available that people wish was I can see what I can do as a group buy to cover exspenses. It can not be something that that is not already a peice of the car or on the market already to make a mold, since I already know everyone wants a rear diffuser....

Sent a PM but will put it here to see if there is anyone else along the same lines.

Would like door panels, but leaving the fake suede, just CF everything else.

370Ztune 03-15-2012 02:01 PM

We do custom production of carbon fiber and FRP parts (mostly for GT-R), but we can do anything. If there is a big enough demand for carbon mirror covers we can get something done with no problem. The cost should be quite reasonable and everything would be produced in the USA.

Jeffblue 03-15-2012 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AshtonXB370Z (Post 1598017)
Seibon did a poor job of molding these pieces and clearly developed them for just looks and not functinality.

Are you implying that there is some sort of functionality for a mirror cover?

Sibze 03-20-2012 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 1601455)
Are you implying that there is some sort of functionality for a mirror cover?

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