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Zrod 02-22-2011 04:17 PM

Spontaneous windshield cracking?
 
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I went out to start her up today and noticed a crack going across the entire length of my windshield. It starts in the bottom corner under the plastic trim and goes up about 4 inches then cuts across the entire windshield and ends in the other bottom corner under the plastic. I have no idea what could have caused this as there is no impact mark anywhere to be found and when I cleaned it yesterday the windshield was perfect. Could anyone shed some light on this phenomenon?

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370Z Purist 02-22-2011 04:27 PM

Some suggestions:

extremely fast temperature change, but unlikely
defective glass, most likely

could also be something that you can't see that started the crack.

Warranty should definitely cover that. There's no legitimate reason for a windshield to crack excessively like that.

kenchan 02-22-2011 04:29 PM

yah, probably defective glass. take it to your dealer. they will probably do a ballpoint pen test... meaning, they will run the tip of the pen over the crack and see if it catches. if it doesnt then it's defective caused by stress fracture.

if it does then it could've been a rock or something that started it (unlikely to be cracking that fast).

Jordo! 02-22-2011 04:36 PM

I thought there was a TSB on this.

The windshield on these cars is the weakest I have ever seen -- constantly chips.

370Z Purist 02-22-2011 04:37 PM

There's a TON of TSB's on the car...

Zrod 02-22-2011 05:02 PM

Yeah gonna take it to the dealer hope its a defect and its covered. It sucks having to worry about our windshields chipping and cracking ALONG WITH our crappy paintjobs lol.

Nikon FM 02-22-2011 05:17 PM

I had roughly the same exact crack position and size. I paid my insurance copay and had the window replaced yesterday. Iv'e had the car two years and the crack happened recently. I heard a slight (pebble?) impact while driving but could not find any hit point, a couple weird hot and cold weather cycles and the crack showed up and also the impact point. Check along the crack for an impact point before taking it in.

dad 02-22-2011 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 953020)
I thought there was a TSB on this.

The windshield on these cars is the weakest I have ever seen -- constantly chips.

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Originally Posted by 370Z Purist (Post 953024)
There's a TON of TSB's on the car...

Ton, is right! I didn't realize there were so many!
370Z Technical Service Bulletins (TSB) / Recalls - Nissan 370Z Forum

christian370z 02-22-2011 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 953020)
The windshield on these cars is the weakest I have ever seen -- constantly chips.

I was amazed as well, this is the first car I have ever had that has glass chips. They aren't divots, but they are little white dots and it annoys me to death on a car that has only 3,500 miles on it since I take every precaution to avoid rock chips in the first place.

Viera 02-22-2011 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 953020)
I thought there was a TSB on this.

The windshield on these cars is the weakest I have ever seen -- constantly chips.

:iagree:

SPOHN 02-22-2011 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 953020)
I thought there was a TSB on this.

The windshield on these cars is the weakest I have ever seen -- constantly chips.

Yea, on my 350 had this same issue. Just away Nissan makes cut backs to make a affordable sports car. Good with the bad as you might say.

chops 02-22-2011 08:51 PM

while some of you may think its nissan cheaping out on a thicker/more quality windshield, the reason our windshields may be thinner is due to weight. glass is quite heavy, and the thicker it is..well the heavier it is. we hardly have any sound proofing in the first place, so a thinner windshield makes sense as its an easy way to keep weight down.

Jordo! 02-22-2011 09:04 PM

Bit more info to explain: Supposedly there are different layers to the windshield. A small ding may expose the lower layer and then you get a temperature differential between the two layers whic hcan lead to a big crack.

370Z Purist 02-22-2011 10:01 PM

Why don't we all just get nice expensive lexan polycarbonate resin glass replacements? It would give us all a bit of a weight savings, among other benefits.

chops 02-22-2011 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Z Purist (Post 953543)
Why don't we all just get nice expensive lexan polycarbonate resin glass replacements? It would give us all a bit of a weight savings, among other benefits.

that would be awesome...you could probably loose ~100lbs if you replaced the front, rear windshield, and door glass

370Z Purist 02-22-2011 10:15 PM

Seeing as it's Lexan, I imagine it would be cheaper? It would definitely be lighter, stronger, shatterproof, and apparently it's just as easy to care for as glass.

It's just that the image I conjure of any polycarbonate is that it's like tupperware.

chops 02-22-2011 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Z Purist (Post 953575)
Seeing as it's Lexan, I imagine it would be cheaper? It would definitely be lighter, stronger, shatterproof, and apparently it's just as easy to care for as glass.

It's just that the image I conjure of any polycarbonate is that it's like tupperware.

did some research...

SpeedGlass - Percy's High Performance - Online Store

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Technical highlights for SpeedGlass Racing Windshields and Windows

* SpeedGlass is 50% - 75% lighter than glass (depending on thickness), 1/2 the weight per equal thickness
* SpeedGlass is extremely shatterproof
* SpeedGlass has excellent optical clarity
* SpeedGlass windshields and windows are coated on both sides with a very scratch resistant coating
* SpeedGlass windshields and windows are formed to factory curvature of steel bodies
* SpeedGlass windows are approximately 1" oversized in all directions, bigger than factory glass windows
too bad outfitting your car would cost nearly $2000.

370Z Purist 02-22-2011 10:43 PM

well if you're like jbtravis, a lexan replacement would lower the center of gravity and offer more protection. lexan outside of a race environment isn't necessary, but it isn't exactly a bad idea either.

ImportConvert 02-24-2011 07:47 AM

Nice to know others have this problem too. My Infiniti does this if you use the defroster below 40* (happened 3 times already, the cracks look like rock-hits but are not. Watched them happen, NOTHING in front of me on the road, just turned on de-froster). Seems to be a Nissan/Infiniti thing. Never had another car that did it. Perhaps it's planned obsolescence, or perhaps Nissan just specs a weird front windscreen and uses a plastic layer with odd thermal expansion properties. Either way, just one more sub-standard material I have discovered in my star-studded first (and last!) import ownership experience.

*rant off*

Jordo! 02-24-2011 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 955642)
Nice to know others have this problem too. My Infiniti does this if you use the defroster below 40* (happened 3 times already, the cracks look like rock-hits but are not. Watched them happen, NOTHING in front of me on the road, just turned on de-froster). Seems to be a Nissan/Infiniti thing. Never had another car that did it. Perhaps it's planned obsolescence, or perhaps Nissan just specs a weird front windscreen and uses a plastic layer with odd thermal expansion properties. Either way, just one more sub-standard material I have discovered in my star-studded first (and last!) import ownership experience.

*rant off*

Toyotas and Hondas are pretty reliable... Nissan vehicles are usually neck and neck with or only marginally better than domestics in terms of reliablity (and recently, well below some... :icon14: )

Still, it's a fun, pretty car :tiphat:

cosmicdust73 09-07-2012 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 953138)
I was amazed as well, this is the first car I have ever had that has glass chips. They aren't divots, but they are little white dots and it annoys me to death on a car that has only 3,500 miles on it since I take every precaution to avoid rock chips in the first place.

Honestly... my car is a week and a half old with 500-600 miles on it and I already have 4 or 5 tiny windshield chips. I'm talking the size of a pin or nail head... but noticeable in the sunlight. It's amazing how crappy this windshield is! Is this normal? I don't remember this being as much of a problem on my 2009 but maybe I was not paying as much attention to it. The funny thing is that I can not recall a single stone or pebble hitting my windshield... I would have heard it. They were either caused during delivery when the dealer picked up the car.. or the windshield is so weak that the nicks are being caused by bugs on the highway. Hahahaha....


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