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Juruki 04-07-2010 10:26 AM

New car with water spots that wont come off
 
So I bought a 09 370Z thats been sitting in the lot for a long time. I received the car on a cloudy day and I failed to see all the water spots on it. The day after i saw them i called the dealer and they told me to come in that they would buff them out. I couldnt trust the dealer with a high speed buffer on my new paint so i decided to take it to a detailer.
I got my car back this sunday and the paint is back to normal. However, my side view mirrors still have those crappy water marks on them and i cant seem to get them off with anything.
What do you guys recommend? I tried all type of cleaners and still nothing.
TIA!!! :tup:

SE 04-07-2010 10:43 AM

Regular water spots should come out with a normal wash and detail. It's either baked on (and will be extremely hard to remove) or they're hard water spots and you need to use something a little stronger to remove it.

SE 04-07-2010 10:45 AM

Is it just on the mirror part of your side mirror? Try using a little goo-gone or simple green. just wet the towel/cloth and apply the solution, then wipe it clean after letting it sit for a few minutes. Try doing this somewhere cool like in a garage or in the shade. Don't do this on a hot mirror or the problem will get loose or the solution will streak. Rinse it a couple more times with water. Don't let it get on your paint.

JungleB 04-07-2010 10:46 AM

Do a search, you're not the only 09 owner with the problem. It's not common but there are complaints about it. Some refer it to orange pealing.

fatcat777 04-07-2010 10:47 AM

try doing a full detail on the car. wash with dawn soap first then clay bar the entire car, then you should be able to buff most of your imperfections out.

Juruki 04-07-2010 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by weeeee (Post 484935)
Is it just on the mirror part of your side mirror? Try using a little goo-gone or simple green. just wet the towel/cloth and apply the solution, then wipe it clean after letting it sit for a few minutes. Try doing this somewhere cool like in a garage or in the shade. Don't do this on a hot mirror or the problem will get loose or the solution will streak. Rinse it a couple more times with water. Don't let it get on your paint.

Thx! i will try that tonight

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Originally Posted by JungleB (Post 484937)
Do a search, you're not the only 09 owner with the problem. It's not common but there are complaints about it. Some refer it to orange pealing.

It is NOT orange pealing. They are marks that water leaves when it dries out.

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Originally Posted by fatcat777 (Post 484939)
try doing a full detail on the car. wash with dawn soap first then clay bar the entire car, then you should be able to buff most of your imperfections out.

Like i said, the paint of the car is back to normal. Its just the water spots on the sideview MIRRORS that i cant get off. And i cant buff those small mirrors

fatcat777 04-07-2010 11:57 AM

try claying the mirrors then waxing them

BrianMSmith 04-07-2010 01:05 PM

I have the same problem. It looks like hard water spots. I have not done anything yet, but I suppose I should take it to a detailer.

Juruki 04-07-2010 01:16 PM

^^ Some water spots leave the paint etched and wont come off with a simple wash. You need to hit it with a buffer and a abrassive polish. Good luck!

NXTAZEE 04-07-2010 01:20 PM

If left long enough water spots will etch into the clear coat. A light polish will usually remove them, I rarely need to use anything more abrasive than that. Juruki, you need to go back to the detailer and have them finish the job properly by polishing the mirrors. Fellas, don't confuse water spots with orange peel they are two entirely different things. Orange peel looks like the surface of an orange, very dimply and distorts reflection in the paint. Water spots are random whitish rings on the paint, if left too long they lose the whitish look and etch in. Keep a fresh coat of wax or sealant on your paint and you will not have this problem. I reseal my paint every 3rd wash and have 0 issues.

resdm50 04-07-2010 02:09 PM

I have the same issue on my hood. I took it to a detailer and they made it a little better, but they said they couldn't do too much polishing as the paint on the hood was ridiculously thin. (This was the case with another 370 they detailed too).

Juruki 04-07-2010 02:11 PM

^^ thx for the tip NXTAZEE! the detailer said that he didnt have a pad to polish the small sideview mirrors? What do you recommend to polish the mirrors?
He told me to try a 50/50 vinegar water mix. Im gonna try that when i get home but i doubt it will work

Juruki 04-07-2010 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by resdm50 (Post 485309)
I have the same issue on my hood. I took it to a detailer and they made it a little better, but they said they couldn't do too much polishing as the paint on the hood was ridiculously thin. (This was the case with another 370 they detailed too).

Never heard that before. I think most cars have the same thickness in the clearcoat? Not sure thou
thx for sharing

Billarf 04-07-2010 03:27 PM

For water spots on rear view mirrors and windows the product at the link below will remove them without a doubt. It is pricey but it does work.
I know a few detailers that swear by the stuff.

http://www.touchoforanges.com/clhawaspfrgl.html

NXTAZEE 04-07-2010 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juruki (Post 485317)
^^ thx for the tip NXTAZEE! the detailer said that he didnt have a pad to polish the small sideview mirrors? What do you recommend to polish the mirrors?
He told me to try a 50/50 vinegar water mix. Im gonna try that when i get home but i doubt it will work

Any pad will do :shakes head:. I have some 3" pads that work very well but have polished mirrors with lager pads as well. You could try some scratch X with a microfiber cloth, if that doesn't work find a professional detailer who can polish mirrors. The 50/50 mix will not work.

NXTAZEE 04-07-2010 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Juruki (Post 485323)
Never heard that before. I think most cars have the same thickness in the clearcoat? Not sure thou
thx for sharing

Yes they are all different. I look after a wide variety of cars and no two cars are a like. Not only do they have different thicknesses but they also have differences in hardness as well. Corvette's are among the hardest. I once polished two 2006 BMW 545i's, one black and the other silver. They were pretty close in thickness but the black had very soft clear and the silver one had very hard clear :confused:. It's just the way it is. Thats why it's very important to measure before doing any major correction work.

Juruki 04-07-2010 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billarf (Post 485467)
For water spots on rear view mirrors and windows the product at the link below will remove them without a doubt. It is pricey but it does work.
I know a few detailers that swear by the stuff.

Cleaning hard water spots from glass

This is what im looking for! thx! its pricey so ill try different methods and will go for this one if everything else fails.

fullmonty 04-07-2010 06:12 PM

Ive actually taken a razor blade to water spots on glass.

dad 04-07-2010 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fullmonty (Post 485746)
Ive actually taken a razor blade to water spots on glass.

I was just coming in to suggest that!

PapoZalsa 04-07-2010 06:48 PM

If those water spots are from the sprinkler recycle "waste" water then you are going to need some stuff they sell at Home Depot. It is used to remove rust water spots created by that recycle water.

I had that problem when I bought my used 350Z in Florida. They use the recycle "nasty wate" water for the sprinklers at night and it bakes into the glass. I could never remove then entirely even with that remover from Home Depot. Sorry I cannot remember the name, but is kind of acid but it works comes in an orange container.

NXTAZEE 04-08-2010 01:33 AM

Water spots on glass can be easily machine polished out.

StealthZ 04-09-2010 12:13 PM

a good glass polish cleaner should work, I've had success with ussing white vinegar to remove bad glass water spots. Follow up with a whipe down and apply a sealant to protect the glass surface, also helps to shed water very well and keep it spot free.

Ni55anPat 04-09-2010 04:40 PM

vinager and water. works like a charm

dudafunk 07-19-2010 08:40 AM

I have the same problem - I don't have a garage and just recently I realized it is from my sprinklers that go on every night.

So once this is fixed "somehow", are you guys sure a regular wax coat will make it easy to remove them each time in the future?

As for the "somehow", AutoZone mentioned using dishwasher liquid with water, I tried it in a very small area and it did seem to work. Same with vinegar I'm guessing? What else can I purchase?


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