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jtown82 03-20-2010 01:28 AM

wax preferences...
 
im surprised there is no section on waxing and such of our cars. im sure just about anyone who buys a Z is a car enthusiast and most liekly an avid wash and waxer. anyhow. who here has used Zaino. tell me your likes and dislikes.

M1K3 03-20-2010 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jtown82 (Post 455450)
im surprised there is no section on waxing and such of our cars. im sure just about anyone who buys a Z is a car enthusiast and most liekly an avid wash and waxer. anyhow. who here has used Zaino. tell me your likes and dislikes.

http://www.the370z.com/exterior-inte...heir-uses.html

http://www.the370z.com/exterior-inte...wax-zaino.html

These are stickied at the top...Both are great threads. Zaino seems to work quite well and the guide is very well done. But both discuss what others use to wax, polish, etc.

Forrest 03-20-2010 04:46 AM

Zainos great. There is only 1 problem with Zaino. Zainos Z2 can be hard to use, but if you can master it, there is probably no reward better.

They say "thin is better" becuase less you apply the easier it is to remove but still the results are kind of amazing some times.

jtown82 03-20-2010 12:08 PM

srry for the wrong section post. i tried looking for stickies and such and just couldnt find them. this site is kinda large and overwhelming with all the diff section right on the main page.

yea from what ive seen nothing comes close to Zaino. just forking out 80-110 bucks for that stuff it rough :P but for what it does it seems worth it

dad 03-20-2010 12:55 PM

^Meguiar's, it's affordable, it's good wax!

SmoothZ 03-20-2010 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 455889)
^Meguiar's, it's affordable, it's good wax!

:iagree: I'm a huge fan of their products. Been using it for years. I especially like NXT since it's so easy to use and smells good, too.

kenchan 03-20-2010 01:27 PM

zaino's okay but too many numbers in their system..and you end up with plasticy surface shiny artificial finish. if polymer i recommend Prima Epic. easier to use and has a more natural carnauba like deep finish.

kenchan 03-20-2010 01:29 PM

oh yah, if you want a super shiny finish try Griot's PaintSealant. very easy to use and it's comparable to zaino....and a lot cheaper and lasts probably longer than zaino on the car. just get their smallest bottle...

antennahead 03-20-2010 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ (Post 455977)
:iagree: I'm a huge fan of their products. Been using it for years. I especially like NXT since it's so easy to use and smells good, too.

:iagree: NXT is great, and lasts a long time. In bewteen waxes with it, I hit the car with Meguires quick detailer, and the shine seems to last a long time. One thing I am going to try next time I clay bar and NXT, is to top the NXT off with a coat of pure carnuba to deepen the shine. That two step approach, a synthetic protector wax topped with a good carnuba seems to be very popular on a lot of the detailing forums.

cab83_750 03-20-2010 03:23 PM

There was a test performed probably last year or two against various waxes ranging from sub $10.00 to whatever. They showed that the one of the cheapest waxes is the straight winner.

Sorry. I don't have the article anymore.


BTW, I have Zaino, Zymol, NXT, etc. (I probably would not buy Zaino anymore as I could not justify the extra cost relative to the shine it gives over the others.)

SmoothZ 03-20-2010 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by antennahead (Post 456082)
:iagree: NXT is great, and lasts a long time. In bewteen waxes with it, I hit the car with Meguires quick detailer, and the shine seems to last a long time. One thing I am going to try next time I clay bar and NXT, is to top the NXT off with a coat of pure carnuba to deepen the shine. That two step approach, a synthetic protector wax topped with a good carnuba seems to be very popular on a lot of the detailing forums.

:tup: Interesting... I'll have to try that 2 stage approach next time I detail her (which will be soon).

I have to get some new claybars, though. Ran out last summer. She needs a good rub.

antennahead 03-20-2010 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ (Post 456200)
:tup: Interesting... I'll have to try that 2 stage approach next time I detail her (which will be soon).

I have to get some new claybars, though. Ran out last summer. She needs a good rub.

Meguires does recommend that you allow the NXT to go 12 hours though, prior to layering anything else on top :tiphat:

SmoothZ 03-20-2010 03:39 PM

Appreciate that advice. Did not know that. I wash the Z, then apply NXT and let her sit. Gonna have to reserve a weekend for this new routine. The wife's not going to be happy. :D

antennahead 03-20-2010 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ (Post 456213)
Appreciate that advice. Did not know that. I wash the Z, then apply NXT and let her sit. Gonna have to reserve a weekend for this new routine. The wife's not going to be happy. :D

I'm thinking wash, clay bar and NXT Saturday, come back Sunday morning and apply the carnuba, that part should be fairly quick :tup:

IDZRVIT 03-20-2010 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 455981)
zaino's okay but too many numbers in their system..and you end up with plasticy surface shiny artificial finish. if polymer i recommend Prima Epic. easier to use and has a more natural carnauba like deep finish.

Have you tried Zaino? I don't agree with your observation. It's not rocket science to pour out one ounce of polish, add five drops and then shake for 30 seconds.

IDZRVIT 03-20-2010 06:16 PM

Zaino shine lasts a long time, easy to use and stands up to the elements. I doubt I will ever use anything else.

SMcK23 03-20-2010 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 456343)
Zaino shine lasts a long time, easy to use and stands up to the elements. I doubt I will ever use anything else.

I'm new to Zaino and planning on purchasing the "Ultimate Protection Show Car Kit" which includes:

ZFX™ Flash Cure Accelerator Additive
Z-2 PRO™ Show Car Polish for Clear Coated Car Finishes
Z-5 PRO™ Show Car Polish for Swirl Marks and Fine Scratches
Z-6™ Ultra Clean Gloss Enhancer Spray
Z-7™ Show Car Wash
Z-9™ Leather Soft Spray Cleaner
Z-10™ Leather in a Bottle
Z-16™ Perfect Tire Gloss
Z-18™ ClayBar

My question is I see this contains polishes, but do you apply a wax after as well?
I have always been under the impression that a polish is a cleaner while a wax is a protectant? Do you know if the leather products would work well in the Z's which have suede inserts? Any other product suggestions? Thanks.

phantom21 03-20-2010 08:28 PM

After using Zanio, I dont plan on using anything else. It took awhile to lay down the layers; but in the sun, the car is absolutely amazing.

I washed with the Z7, clayed it and rinsed, toweled dried it. THEN the fun over 2 days....Z6, Z5, Z6, Z5, Z6, Z2, Z6, Z2, Z6. Now, I just wash it with Z7 and hit it with Z6. Whenever I fee like I need to wax it again, I will wash with Z7, dry, Z6, Z2 and final with Z6.

SmoothZ 03-20-2010 08:35 PM

Yeah, that's why I don't use Zaino. Too many applications over too much time. I like detailing and usually spend 2 hours at a time doing it, and I normally detail the car once a week.

So spending that kind of time on my Z is crazy.

dad 03-20-2010 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SMcK23 (Post 456448)
My question is I see this contains polishes, but do you apply a wax after as well?
I have always been under the impression that a polish is a cleaner while a wax is a protectant? Do you know if the leather products would work well in the Z's which have suede inserts? Any other product suggestions? Thanks.

Polish, then wax! The polish helps deepen the shine after you wax.
But make sure to read the directions for the products! I use Meguiars, I'm not familiar with the product your using. "Meguiars polish has to be whipped off before it dries"!

StealthZ 03-20-2010 09:55 PM

zaino:shakes head: Not the best or worth it IMO

Cheaper but great wax is poorboys Natty's red or blue
step upto P21S 100%, then go for Pinnicale Souvorn, Wolfgang Fuzion, or DoDo juices many different yet vehicle color specific waxes.
I'll try and get pictures of the different vehicles I've done with different waxes.

IDZRVIT 03-21-2010 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ (Post 456491)
Yeah, that's why I don't use Zaino. Too many applications over too much time. I like detailing and usually spend 2 hours at a time doing it, and I normally detail the car once a week.

So spending that kind of time on my Z is crazy.

All the effort is up front as phantom21 pointed out. After that you don't need to spend two hours a week detailing or whatever. Just wash the car, dry and use a spray quick detailer of your choice. The application of Zaino polish is no different than applying a wax or other polish. The polish wipes off very easily. There is no need to apply a wax afterwards at least in my experience with it. The shine gets deeper with multiple coats. So, for those who have not tried Zaino, please don't knock it until you have tried it.

SmoothZ 03-21-2010 08:53 AM

lol... I spend that much time because I enjoy it and get distracted with the little details. I also think it's therapeutic. I have tried Zaino and didn't think it was the shiznit, so for those that think it's the end all of products, please don't judge others as if we don't know anything.

Forrest 03-21-2010 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMcK23 (Post 456448)
I'm new to Zaino and planning on purchasing the "Ultimate Protection Show Car Kit" which includes:

ZFX™ Flash Cure Accelerator Additive
Z-2 PRO™ Show Car Polish for Clear Coated Car Finishes
Z-5 PRO™ Show Car Polish for Swirl Marks and Fine Scratches
Z-6™ Ultra Clean Gloss Enhancer Spray
Z-7™ Show Car Wash
Z-9™ Leather Soft Spray Cleaner
Z-10™ Leather in a Bottle
Z-16™ Perfect Tire Gloss
Z-18™ ClayBar

My question is I see this contains polishes, but do you apply a wax after as well?
I have always been under the impression that a polish is a cleaner while a wax is a protectant? Do you know if the leather products would work well in the Z's which have suede inserts? Any other product suggestions? Thanks.

I woudlnt buy the protection kit.
I would buy these items and save cash if its cheaper
ZFX™ Flash Cure Accelerator Additive
Z-2 PRO™ Show Car Polish for Clear Coated Car Finishes
Z-6™ Ultra Clean Gloss Enhancer Spray
Z-7™ Show Car Wash
Z-8
ZS-Clear Seal
Z-16™ Perfect Tire Gloss
Z-18™ ClayBar
And toss in 1 order for there yellow and white cloths each they sell that are ultra soft and you will probably be set.

Z5 is extra hard to use and i dont believe it really works as intended.

As for the leather stuff i never used it and i cant comment.

Forrest 03-21-2010 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 455981)
zaino's okay but too many numbers in their system..and you end up with plasticy surface shiny artificial finish. if polymer i recommend Prima Epic. easier to use and has a more natural carnauba like deep finish.

The finish does not look "plasticy" it looks more like glass or water.

SMcK23 03-21-2010 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Forrest (Post 457693)
I woudlnt buy the protection kit.
I would buy these items and save cash if its cheaper
ZFX™ Flash Cure Accelerator Additive
Z-2 PRO™ Show Car Polish for Clear Coated Car Finishes
Z-6™ Ultra Clean Gloss Enhancer Spray
Z-7™ Show Car Wash
Z-8
ZS-Clear Seal
Z-16™ Perfect Tire Gloss
Z-18™ ClayBar
And toss in 1 order for there yellow and white cloths each they sell that are ultra soft and you will probably be set.

Z5 is extra hard to use and i dont believe it really works as intended.

As for the leather stuff i never used it and i cant comment.

Thanks Forrest! +1 rep!

ddvette9 03-22-2010 11:40 AM

the new meguiars gold class carnauba plus is AMAZING. I also love the tech wax 2.0. Regular applications of either about once a month should provide great results as long as you quick detail and wash regularly in between

AngelNismo 05-05-2015 08:32 AM

Does anyone use rain x wax?

Amj2020 05-05-2015 09:24 AM

Zaino is a lot of work and seems more like a chemistry experiment. I have been using Adams sealant after I polish, then I give it a coat of dodo juice purple haze. The stuff smells great, and comes off easy. Its wayyyyy overpriced and probably no different from any other wax. I also had used Adams Americana wax, and it was a little expensive for what it was, good durability though

Nick M 05-05-2015 09:58 AM

Kind of surprised at all the Zaino love in this thread. They make good products, but I've looked at them as being older tech/chemistry and that there have been more advancements in recent years. IMO Zaino is still much better than autoparts store products, Meguirs n Mothers, but I personally love Chemical Guys products.

I use this wax lately as a final step:
Chemical Guys WAC_111_16 - Extreme Depth Liquid Carnauba Creme Wax + X-Seal (16 oz)EXTREME DEPTH LIQUID CARNAUBA CREME WAX + X-Seal (16 oz)

Prior to waxing, if time permits I'll do several applications of their creme glaze:
Chemical Guys GAP_111_16 - Extreme Shine EZ Creme Glaze (16 oz)

AngelNismo 05-05-2015 10:39 AM

Any thoughts on Rain X wax?

JARblue 05-05-2015 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Angel370Z (Post 3188816)
Any thoughts on Rain X wax?

I wouldn't use it :twocents:

But I don't have any hard evidence to back up my reasoning :icon17:

AngelNismo 05-05-2015 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3188817)
I wouldn't use it :twocents:

But I don't have any hard evidence to back up my reasoning :icon17:

lol then why you wouldn't you use it?

JARblue 05-05-2015 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Angel370Z (Post 3188824)
lol then why you wouldn't you use it?

Mainly because I have just beyond the selection available in local auto parts. I use a glaze after polishing and before waxing. Then I use a polymer-based liquid sealant as my wax base coat for longevity (since it is a DD). I finish it off with a buttery wax designed for show room shine when I really want it. And in my experience, the products at AutoZone just can't keep up.

I can't sit here and say it's a bad product. Chances are it's fine.

kenchan 05-05-2015 11:48 AM

as they say... say no to zaino

:rofl2:

their system is too complicated. there are so many good sealants out there that are 100% easier to use and works.

cab83_750 05-06-2015 01:30 AM

I can't seem to find Consumers Report from a while back. It listed a sub-$3.00 wax which you can buy at PepBoys as one of the top 3 or something. :)


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