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custom gauges
Hey all!
So, after my fiasco with my gauge needle, I considered doing something a bit different. I'm wanting to change out the tach, speedo and fuel gauge with aftermarket, properly sized versions of themselves. I was told, for the most part, the change would be plug and play. However, I'm going to lose my indicators that are present on the tach. This leads to a question. Is there a way to direct the indicator signals to an outside source or to a separate monitor so I can keep track of them easier, should an issue arise? If not, I could always use an obd2 reader at all times, but I'd prefer a cleaner approach. Any insight into this would be great, especially if you or someone you know has done similar. Thanks! |
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What gauges you planning on going with?
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Have you looked at the Haltech IC7 dash - I used one in my race car last weekend as my logger dash died and have seen one in a Suby Rex road car and they are awesome .... there is a printed carbon bracket that sits neatly under the OEM instrument panel top .... all driven from the OBDII connection for a road car
I'll hunt for a photo of my car from the weekend and post it here if I can find it. |
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Who said this would be plug and play? Unless that person was talking about a haltech I would expect it to be a royal pain in the ... As far as the indicators go, I believe that they are all sent on the CAN bus in different messages, so if you're really 'bout that life then you can make a device to monitor the bus and do whatever you want when you see the bits in the messages. I'm not sure if the gauge cluster does this or if it has discrete lines for each indicator, but I do know that you can get at them from the CAN bus.
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This is probably an easier route for your goals :twocents:
http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...or-change.html |
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https://www.speedhut.com/gauges/ |
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(Updated with correction) The turn signal stalk is wired to the BCM. When the turn signal stalk is signalling a turn, the BCM flashes the external turn signals and broadcasts a CAN message, that is received by the combination meter/gauge cluster which turns on/off the gauge cluster turn signal. The CAN ID for the turn signal is 0x60D (BCM), second byte, bit 6 for right turn / bit 5 for left turn. |
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For those that are interested the Haltec dash is a plug and play with the Nissan 370z ECU. It is pretty bad ***. Remember it is not a data logger. Some of the displays on mine include water temp, oil pressure (you have to purchase the sensor separately) and AFRs with left and right displayed separately. I will be spending some time sett up the alarms for things that make the engine go boom!
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Jumping on this thread. I'm currently working on installing my IC7 as a "replacement." The wiring diagram for the gauge cluster shows no specific items for the turn signals or high beams. Still, I remember working with a Torque Pro dev a long time ago, getting the OBD2 to flash the lights and the indicators. An update on the IC7 display showed that the dash has the ability to see the indicators and lights, but it's grayed out for me.
The big oof in the setup is getting the alternator to work. I asked Austin about his setup, and he has the standard cluster mounted under the dash. This would make sense as many of the TC spec cars I've seen are still running the standard dash (tuned with either uprev or ecutek), while many custom builds are using standalone (like the Z1 T/A car). I imagine this will take a bit to get it working fully, but the upside is that the Haltech dash is a fairly new product. So that has an upside when talking about future updates. |
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How did you get your AFR display to work? I had a hard time figuring out which wideband to look for lmao. |
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I got the answer, and he did what I thought—Haltech WB dual-channel (super nice).
I have ports in my HFCs to add on sensors, but I'll see if Haltech can use the PIDs I sent them to enable it in the OBD2 protocol. I managed to wire up the Oil Pressure sensor that came with the VLS gauge, and I made a rough CAD drawing of a mounting bracket my buddy would print for me. He wants to try this new carbon fiber filament he has, and it sounds like a good application for it. |
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