OK, we're now at 3 members:

40 to 332
Spartan 1771
CV129

Again, the group buy will close when either 6 members have signed on or on Friday, August 4th, whichever occurs first.

Id go for one, send me a PM with payment instructions.

SG

OK, that makes four. I'll send a PM to filip00 asking how he would like to be paid once the group buy closes. We'll also have to decide which member will take delivery of the bulk order from filip00 for distribution to the other members once the product arrives from overseas. I'd be prepared to take on that role, with the understanding that: i) the shipping charges from Canada (... where I live) will likely be higher than shipping within the U.S.A.and, ii) some cross-border duty charges and/or delays could apply. If someone else is willing to take on the role, let us know. Obviously, we'll need to let filip00 know who to ship to.

Just saw your post... please add me to the list.

I don't know anything about international shipping cost. Any idea/estimate what the "total" shipping cost will be like. I am in SOCAL.

Thanks for your help.

We are now at 5 members. Only one spot remaining.

In terms of shipping costs, I have no idea what the cost will be for the bulk shipment from Europe (Filip00's location) to North America. If it's decided that I will take delivery of the bulk shipment, I can get an estimate of the cost to ship from Canada (my location) to the U.S.A. I'll try to get that information out in the next couple of days.

Once the group buy closes, we'll figure out the payment options. I've already asked Filip00 for his input.

I'm willing to take the bulk shipment here in the US. I run a small eBay side hustle, so I'm shipping items out on a daily basis. Although I have never dealt with liquids, I'm sure I can figure it out.

Thanks.... I've purchased car wax/vinyl protectant from Amazon. I don't think they required special handling.

No special handling, but I'll need to get smaller bottles and package them properly to ensure they don't break or leak while in transit.

Shout out to Spartan 1771 for volunteering to take delivery of the bulk shipment :tiphat:. No word yet from Filip00 regarding how he would prefer to be paid. Stay tuned.

Why buy 1L bottles versus the 500ml? Their site and most of the EU distributors all sell 3 sizes of this. 500ml 1L and 5L. Regardless there likely isn’t an easy “legal” way to import it. It’s a chemical so if you are importer number 1 you get to handle the TSCA profile/testing etc. or perhaps a distribution agreement exists between Shiny Garage and Manufacturer that they can only sell in EU countries. If that is the case it’s likely the products exists here already under a different brand name.

How are we doing with the group buy? Thanks

I'm willing to take delivery and distribute smaller portions to forum members, but I'm not doing all of this. He can send me a few bottles and mark it as a gift on the customs form. If it gets seized by customs for any of these issues, then there isn't anything I'm going to be able to do about it.

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I think it may be different between importing large amount for resale and for personal use. And it is for vinyl/plastic and not human consumption.

We'll probably just need a couple of bottles and divide them up for a handful of members. It is $20/bottle plus shipping cost. If they get seized, oh well...

Again I have no knowledge about international shipping policy. :-(

The group buy closed on Friday, with 5 members signing up:

40 to 332
Spartan 1771
cv129
SG4247
nis350

Spartan has kindly agreed to take the bulk shipment from Filip00 and then distribute the individual containers to the other members. A few things to note:

1. Each member will need to send a PM to Spartan listing their full shipping address, including name, street address, city, state and zip code. I'd also include a telephone number where you can be reached if the shipper needs to contact you.
2. If Spartan is willing to re-package the product into smaller containers, we probably need to order only 2-3 of the 1 liter containers from Filip00, and each member will then end up with 400 - 600 mL of the product ... which should be plenty according to Filip00.
3.We will need to discuss payment options. The cost will be $20 for each container, plus the shipping cost from Filip00 to Spartan, plus the shipping cost from Spartan to each member. All costs in U.S. dollars. I'm still waiting to hear back from Filip00 concerning his preferred method of payment.
4. If we don't hear back from Filip00, there is another option. I've identified a retailer in the Netherlands who would be willing to ship a couple of bottles overseas. I'd be willing to work with the retailer and front the cost of the product and shipping from Europe if needed and then simply be reimbursed by the rest of the members using PayPal. The retailer may have some ideas on how best to ship the product to avoid any TSCA "obstacles". Be advised that the retailer offered that the shipping cost could exceed the cost of the product itself ... but the same will apply if Filip00 ships it.
5. Post your questions/comments/suggestions and we can collectively figure out how best to proceed now that the group buy has closed.

First of all.... Thank you BOTH for organizing this.

In regard to the quantity. I checked the 303 I've been using for over 5 years for multiple cars. It is 473ml and it is still 60% full. With the unknown high international shipping cost, perhaps 2 bottles would be enough (~400ml for each member)? However, I am totally fine with 3 if you guys want. It'd worth every single penny IF it worked. ;-)

Paypal would work. Just let me know whom/how much once you guys get some estimates.

Thanks again.

I'm also fine with ordering 2 bottles. Anyone else?

I may be interested in a 3rd, but price will definitely be a factor.

I'm fine either way.

The days and nights I've spent thinking, hoping, dreaming about the stupid dash and all the alternatives, cost of this is easily worth a try.

Can't wait to try this on the spare dash then just throw it outside to see how it reacts to the Texas sun.

any update? Thanks.

We need to decide how many bottles we want to order ... 2 or 3? I will then send a PM to filip00 telling him the number and asking him to provide an estimate of the total cost (including shipping). In terms of the number of bottles, there's been some interest in ordering 3, while others are leaning towards 2. It's $20 USD per bottle. Obviously, the shipping cost will vary by weight. The total cost will be divided by 5. So-o-o, we need to decide. Will it be 2 bottles ... or 3 bottles?

If the group only needs 2 bottles, I'll pay an extra $20 for the third. I don't plan on using that bottle for distribution to this group.

I don't know anything about international shipping cost. According to your earlier post, the cost per bottle will be more than $20. Perhaps $30 per bottle? That's about $20 per person(5) for 2 bottles ($50x2) to ship to US.

And there will be additional cost to distribute and ship locally.

That would work for me. However, it'd nice if someone has better idea about the total shipping cost per bottle to get to US.

As I posted before, it'd worth every penny if it worked, but the mileage may possibly vary. Thanks...

filip00 needs to calculate the rate from where ever he is to me in Maryland. We haven't heard from him in awhile, so I'm a little concerned. I'll PM him with my address so he can calculate the shipping fees and total cost. I'll post the info when I hear back from him.

Just sent a PM to filip00. Hopefully he gets back to me.

Hey dudes, sorry for keeping you waiting with this - I wasn't opening the forums for the last two weeks as I was on holidays. Spartan has messaged me about this group buy. I'll figure out the details with him and we'll post updates here.

much thanks for your help....

update? thanks

In progress. Price for bottles and shipping sent, waiting confirmation regarding how we can make the payment.

Thanks....Do you mind sharing that detail cost with us?

Any progress? Thanks.

Sorry I haven't been quicker to respond. I had some unexpected family issues I had to handle out of state, which consumed a lot of my time.

Got the info on price and shipping. Shipping is going to be $50 for up to 22 pounds, so that's not going to change no matter how many or few bottles we order. Each bottle will be an additional $20. And then filip00 has asked for an additional $10 to cover any currency conversions.

These costs will get the product to me, but then I'll have to get smaller bottles and then mail them individually. Without looking in to it, I'm going to say the cost for that will be somewhere around $6-$8 each.

I can calculate the exact price once I have identified a specific bottle to use for shipment. How many ounces does everyone want or need? I would prefer to agree on a specific amount so I don't have to do custom orders for everyone.

Hope all is well with your family, and thanks for getting the info.

Assuming we get 2 bottles:

$40(2 bottles) + $50(shipping) + $10(currency)=$100 Total

Of course, there will be additional for distributing and shipping cost in US.

Is that correct?

Yes, this is correct.

2 or 3 bottles will work for me... majority rules ;)

My understanding is:

1 full bottle (1L) for Spartan (not to be split);
1 full bottle (1L) for 40 to 332 (not to be split); and,
2 full bottles to be split 4 ways (all interested members except 40 to 332) ... so presumably 500 mL per person.

Is my understanding correct?

We have a total of 5 people. So 2 bottles will split only 3 ways??

Perhaps it is easier and cheaper to get 5 bottles, one for each person. Rob doesn't have to purchase additional bottles to split them up.

That was my thinking. So I told Rob to simply order a full bottle for me, and just send it along to my shipping address in Montana. So my cost will be:

$20 for the product;
1/5th of the shipping cost from Europe ($50/5 = $10);
1/5th of the currency exchange fee ($10/5 = $2); and,
whatever the cost is for Rob to ship the product to Montana.

If everyone wants to go this route, I'm fine with it. All those on the group buy please respond with yea or nay.

Yes for me... thanks guys.

I’m good with getting a full bottle