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GT Motoring 01-22-2009 01:31 PM

As noted previously, all the black parts will be in Carbon. These are the parts parts off the mold currently. Some parts are subject to change of course. We'll have the complete list of Zele parts for the 370Z and their pricing updated at the link below as soon as final pricing and specs are set.

http://www.the370z.com/gt-motoring/1...html#post22887

18rgcelica73 01-22-2009 01:49 PM

Holy crap I love this kit. Just wish that those side inlets on the front were not there but damn almost makes me want the sport package only for the syncro-rev and wheels then screw the spoilers. Can you even do that?

RCZ 01-26-2009 10:40 PM

Titanium Shift Knob 32,000 JPY
Titanium Strut Tower Brace 195,000 JPY
Titanium Muffler Type2 485,000 JPY
Carbon Fiber Side Mirror Cover Set 18,500 JPY
Carbon Fiber Pillar Cover Set 16,500 JPY
Carbon Fiber Radiator Shroud 28,000 JPY
ZELE Performance Brembo Race Brake Kit 1,950,000 JPY
FZ-ROM ECU 105,000 JPY

Sorry Zele I aint buying any of your overpriced products. Get a grip on reality please.

Edit: OK, maybe the carbon bits. Probably not though!!!1one!1

GT Motoring 01-26-2009 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 24519)
Titanium Shift Knob 32,000 JPY
Titanium Strut Tower Brace 195,000 JPY
Titanium Muffler Type2 485,000 JPY
Carbon Fiber Side Mirror Cover Set 18,500 JPY
Carbon Fiber Pillar Cover Set 16,500 JPY
Carbon Fiber Radiator Shroud 28,000 JPY
ZELE Performance Brembo Race Brake Kit 1,950,000 JPY
FZ-ROM ECU 105,000 JPY

Sorry Zele I aint buying any of your overpriced products. Get a grip on reality please.

Edit: OK, maybe the carbon bits. Probably not though!!!1one!1

The brake kit is basically a brembo racing spec full monoblock setup. It is NOT a cheap setup. Of course not many will purchase this item as most will only want it for racing purposes. Other than the brakes, knob, and tower bar, all of the other items are reasonable market prices for Japanese made carbon and titanium bits. The knob i was most surprised on to be honest. the tower bar is pricey, but extreme. Zele parts are of the highest quality and are aware it may not fit everyones buget, including mine in some areas. They strive to put the best part on the market they can, i beleive they do.

azn370z 01-26-2009 11:44 PM

So what do you think you can do on the price for the sunline carbon fiber lip? I think $1150 is high considering veilside and cwest charge less than half that amount. Any sales coming up or maybe a group buy?

GT Motoring 01-27-2009 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by azn370z (Post 24533)
So what do you think you can do on the price for the sunline carbon fiber lip? I think $1150 is high considering veilside and cwest charge less than half that amount. Any sales coming up or maybe a group buy?

Both Veilside and C west lips are typically, FRP not carbon. I dont know the details on the Sunline yet, but saw it in person in Tokyo. Looks to be of good quality.

Slidefox 01-27-2009 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GT Motoring (Post 24546)
Both Veilside and C west lips are typically, FRP not carbon. I dont know the details on the Sunline yet, but saw it in person in Tokyo. Looks to be of good quality.

+1 Veilside and C-West are becoming common names here in the US. They are going to make a product that is priced to sell, but still has good quality. Sunline's lip; you are paying for exclusivity and quality.

azn370z 01-27-2009 01:51 AM

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Interesting that sunline used cwest's body kit for their z33. You can see sunline copied cwest's design. I believe a carbon fiber cwest lip cost about $400.

370Ztune 01-27-2009 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Slidefox (Post 24551)
+1 Veilside and C-West are becoming common names here in the US. They are going to make a product that is priced to sell, but still has good quality. Sunline's lip; you are paying for exclusivity and quality.

Well said. +1

RCZ 01-27-2009 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GT Motoring (Post 24527)
The brake kit is basically a brembo racing spec full monoblock setup. It is NOT a cheap setup. Of course not many will purchase this item as most will only want it for racing purposes. Other than the brakes, knob, and tower bar, all of the other items are reasonable market prices for Japanese made carbon and titanium bits. The knob i was most surprised on to be honest. the tower bar is pricey, but extreme. Zele parts are of the highest quality and are aware it may not fit everyones buget, including mine in some areas. They strive to put the best part on the market they can, i beleive they do.

Its not a cheap setup? Thats more than $20,000 dollars... that's Carrera GT ceramic/carbon brakes territory. No one is going to buy that unless its for GT series racing..whats the point of offering a $20,000 dollar break package to the public? How about selling a $5,000 dollar one that they will sell more than 1 of. Thats all I'm saying. The tower bar is far from reasonable. The shift knob is not reasonable. There is always a market, no matter how small it may be. However, that is NOT how businesses make money. It is absolutely INSANE to think that this crap is going to fly with the current consumer sentiment..

The carbon bits are almost OK priced....about 50-100 over...

The sunline carbon stuff is way too much too. Thats how much full bumpers should cost, not lips. That front lip for example should be around 6-700 dollars at most.

ONEighty 01-27-2009 11:36 PM

LOL @ those prices, that's ridiculous like everyone said, and on top of that the entire kit is FPR... WTF?!? This is not any different from Top Secret making FPR lip kits for the G37 at $3000 for the entire kit, hardly anyone will buy it, yet everyone wants it... in PU !

Slidefox 01-27-2009 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 180°|Custom (Post 25005)
LOL @ those prices, that's ridiculous like everyone said, and on top of that the entire kit is FPR... WTF?!? This is not any different from Top Secret making FPR lip kits for the G37 at $3000 for the entire kit, hardly anyone will buy it, yet everyone wants it... in PU !

Another reason these JDM manufacturer's price there kits so high is to prevent copying. Your paying for exclusivity. Veilside is a prime example with there Fortune Kits. You have to purchase the entire kit. No one piece can be ordered individually. One price... One Part#

ONEighty 01-27-2009 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Slidefox (Post 25008)
Another reason these JDM manufacturer's price there kits so high is to prevent copying. Your paying for exclusivity. Veilside is a prime example with there Fortune Kits. You have to purchase the entire kit. No one piece can be ordered individually. One price... One Part#

I'm ordering the entire kit regardless...

GT Motoring 01-28-2009 12:23 AM

Well i said before that their parts arent for everyones budget, especially those looking for taiwan CF quality and seibon knock off prices. Zele took the time and money to develop their parts from scratch so of course theyll want to turn a profit. I havent seen too many kits out there that were original designs ( not replica ) that are cheap unless the quality is aweful.

Since some mentioned c-west, here is an example of there z33 aero kit pricing to compare:
-N1 front bumper (FRP) $840 USD
-long nose bumper (FRP) $900 USD
-side skirts (FRP) $520 USD
-rear bumper (FRP) $740 USD

total FRP kit price, not including any options: 2100-2160

Im assuming the Zele aero kit will be more than this as it currently is due to have some carbon parts on the front and rear. From our experiences with their GTR aero parts so far, ALL of them have been spot on fitment.

370Ztune 01-28-2009 12:54 PM

JDM pricing is always the debate, but I think it's because the average consumer interested in these products doesn't understand the costs of engineering quality as good as an Amuse product, Zele, Sunline, MCR, etc.

The R&D alone can be absurd but factor in simple business economics... let's say a part takes $30,000 for R&D and making a mold to produce the parts. On a 350Z the market might allow sales of 100 units to make back the production costs and make some profit. With a smaller market like the 370Z or G37, total unit sales might be only 30-40% of the volume of the older Z, simply there are less cars and less people modifying right now. If only 30-40% of the volume is there, there is simply no way to recoup the investment cost unless each piece is more expensive. Just simple economics really.

Take for example the GT-R, or even GT3 Porsche, tuning parts are limited editions because the audience is so small compared to other cars people often compare pricing to (Z/G, S2000, EVO, etc). It's a very hard comparison to make. This probably deserves a separate blog post because the topic comes up a lot. Just my two cents!
-Jeff


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