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TerribleONE 01-16-2009 04:22 AM

probably between 4-6k... i hope.. lol

Suave Devil 01-18-2009 02:41 PM

Hey, would any of the very talented choppers do a few in the other colors? I'm thinking Monterey Blue or Solid Red or...

Thanks!

Suave

GT Motoring 01-19-2009 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Minicobra1 (Post 20414)
Anyone have an idea on how much this kit will cost?

likely in the 3000-3500 range is our estimation based on the cost of their GTR parts in FRP

KameezGuru 01-19-2009 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GT Motoring (Post 21660)
likely in the 3000-3500 range is our estimation based on the cost of their GTR parts in FRP

Damn I'll take 2! :p

Really not bad for that kit its one of the better ones out there.

370Ztune 01-22-2009 01:14 PM

Zele is still finalizing other options for this kit as well. They have implied to us they are not finished yet with the overall design. Maybe a few carbon pieces.. :)

Such as... New Carbon Radiator Shroud
http://www.370ztune.com/images/produ...9ef4d_W300.jpg

GT Motoring 01-22-2009 01:31 PM

As noted previously, all the black parts will be in Carbon. These are the parts parts off the mold currently. Some parts are subject to change of course. We'll have the complete list of Zele parts for the 370Z and their pricing updated at the link below as soon as final pricing and specs are set.

http://www.the370z.com/gt-motoring/1...html#post22887

18rgcelica73 01-22-2009 01:49 PM

Holy crap I love this kit. Just wish that those side inlets on the front were not there but damn almost makes me want the sport package only for the syncro-rev and wheels then screw the spoilers. Can you even do that?

RCZ 01-26-2009 10:40 PM

Titanium Shift Knob 32,000 JPY
Titanium Strut Tower Brace 195,000 JPY
Titanium Muffler Type2 485,000 JPY
Carbon Fiber Side Mirror Cover Set 18,500 JPY
Carbon Fiber Pillar Cover Set 16,500 JPY
Carbon Fiber Radiator Shroud 28,000 JPY
ZELE Performance Brembo Race Brake Kit 1,950,000 JPY
FZ-ROM ECU 105,000 JPY

Sorry Zele I aint buying any of your overpriced products. Get a grip on reality please.

Edit: OK, maybe the carbon bits. Probably not though!!!1one!1

GT Motoring 01-26-2009 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 24519)
Titanium Shift Knob 32,000 JPY
Titanium Strut Tower Brace 195,000 JPY
Titanium Muffler Type2 485,000 JPY
Carbon Fiber Side Mirror Cover Set 18,500 JPY
Carbon Fiber Pillar Cover Set 16,500 JPY
Carbon Fiber Radiator Shroud 28,000 JPY
ZELE Performance Brembo Race Brake Kit 1,950,000 JPY
FZ-ROM ECU 105,000 JPY

Sorry Zele I aint buying any of your overpriced products. Get a grip on reality please.

Edit: OK, maybe the carbon bits. Probably not though!!!1one!1

The brake kit is basically a brembo racing spec full monoblock setup. It is NOT a cheap setup. Of course not many will purchase this item as most will only want it for racing purposes. Other than the brakes, knob, and tower bar, all of the other items are reasonable market prices for Japanese made carbon and titanium bits. The knob i was most surprised on to be honest. the tower bar is pricey, but extreme. Zele parts are of the highest quality and are aware it may not fit everyones buget, including mine in some areas. They strive to put the best part on the market they can, i beleive they do.

azn370z 01-26-2009 11:44 PM

So what do you think you can do on the price for the sunline carbon fiber lip? I think $1150 is high considering veilside and cwest charge less than half that amount. Any sales coming up or maybe a group buy?

GT Motoring 01-27-2009 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by azn370z (Post 24533)
So what do you think you can do on the price for the sunline carbon fiber lip? I think $1150 is high considering veilside and cwest charge less than half that amount. Any sales coming up or maybe a group buy?

Both Veilside and C west lips are typically, FRP not carbon. I dont know the details on the Sunline yet, but saw it in person in Tokyo. Looks to be of good quality.

Slidefox 01-27-2009 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GT Motoring (Post 24546)
Both Veilside and C west lips are typically, FRP not carbon. I dont know the details on the Sunline yet, but saw it in person in Tokyo. Looks to be of good quality.

+1 Veilside and C-West are becoming common names here in the US. They are going to make a product that is priced to sell, but still has good quality. Sunline's lip; you are paying for exclusivity and quality.

azn370z 01-27-2009 01:51 AM

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Interesting that sunline used cwest's body kit for their z33. You can see sunline copied cwest's design. I believe a carbon fiber cwest lip cost about $400.

370Ztune 01-27-2009 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Slidefox (Post 24551)
+1 Veilside and C-West are becoming common names here in the US. They are going to make a product that is priced to sell, but still has good quality. Sunline's lip; you are paying for exclusivity and quality.

Well said. +1

RCZ 01-27-2009 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GT Motoring (Post 24527)
The brake kit is basically a brembo racing spec full monoblock setup. It is NOT a cheap setup. Of course not many will purchase this item as most will only want it for racing purposes. Other than the brakes, knob, and tower bar, all of the other items are reasonable market prices for Japanese made carbon and titanium bits. The knob i was most surprised on to be honest. the tower bar is pricey, but extreme. Zele parts are of the highest quality and are aware it may not fit everyones buget, including mine in some areas. They strive to put the best part on the market they can, i beleive they do.

Its not a cheap setup? Thats more than $20,000 dollars... that's Carrera GT ceramic/carbon brakes territory. No one is going to buy that unless its for GT series racing..whats the point of offering a $20,000 dollar break package to the public? How about selling a $5,000 dollar one that they will sell more than 1 of. Thats all I'm saying. The tower bar is far from reasonable. The shift knob is not reasonable. There is always a market, no matter how small it may be. However, that is NOT how businesses make money. It is absolutely INSANE to think that this crap is going to fly with the current consumer sentiment..

The carbon bits are almost OK priced....about 50-100 over...

The sunline carbon stuff is way too much too. Thats how much full bumpers should cost, not lips. That front lip for example should be around 6-700 dollars at most.

ONEighty 01-27-2009 11:36 PM

LOL @ those prices, that's ridiculous like everyone said, and on top of that the entire kit is FPR... WTF?!? This is not any different from Top Secret making FPR lip kits for the G37 at $3000 for the entire kit, hardly anyone will buy it, yet everyone wants it... in PU !

Slidefox 01-27-2009 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 180°|Custom (Post 25005)
LOL @ those prices, that's ridiculous like everyone said, and on top of that the entire kit is FPR... WTF?!? This is not any different from Top Secret making FPR lip kits for the G37 at $3000 for the entire kit, hardly anyone will buy it, yet everyone wants it... in PU !

Another reason these JDM manufacturer's price there kits so high is to prevent copying. Your paying for exclusivity. Veilside is a prime example with there Fortune Kits. You have to purchase the entire kit. No one piece can be ordered individually. One price... One Part#

ONEighty 01-27-2009 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Slidefox (Post 25008)
Another reason these JDM manufacturer's price there kits so high is to prevent copying. Your paying for exclusivity. Veilside is a prime example with there Fortune Kits. You have to purchase the entire kit. No one piece can be ordered individually. One price... One Part#

I'm ordering the entire kit regardless...

GT Motoring 01-28-2009 12:23 AM

Well i said before that their parts arent for everyones budget, especially those looking for taiwan CF quality and seibon knock off prices. Zele took the time and money to develop their parts from scratch so of course theyll want to turn a profit. I havent seen too many kits out there that were original designs ( not replica ) that are cheap unless the quality is aweful.

Since some mentioned c-west, here is an example of there z33 aero kit pricing to compare:
-N1 front bumper (FRP) $840 USD
-long nose bumper (FRP) $900 USD
-side skirts (FRP) $520 USD
-rear bumper (FRP) $740 USD

total FRP kit price, not including any options: 2100-2160

Im assuming the Zele aero kit will be more than this as it currently is due to have some carbon parts on the front and rear. From our experiences with their GTR aero parts so far, ALL of them have been spot on fitment.

370Ztune 01-28-2009 12:54 PM

JDM pricing is always the debate, but I think it's because the average consumer interested in these products doesn't understand the costs of engineering quality as good as an Amuse product, Zele, Sunline, MCR, etc.

The R&D alone can be absurd but factor in simple business economics... let's say a part takes $30,000 for R&D and making a mold to produce the parts. On a 350Z the market might allow sales of 100 units to make back the production costs and make some profit. With a smaller market like the 370Z or G37, total unit sales might be only 30-40% of the volume of the older Z, simply there are less cars and less people modifying right now. If only 30-40% of the volume is there, there is simply no way to recoup the investment cost unless each piece is more expensive. Just simple economics really.

Take for example the GT-R, or even GT3 Porsche, tuning parts are limited editions because the audience is so small compared to other cars people often compare pricing to (Z/G, S2000, EVO, etc). It's a very hard comparison to make. This probably deserves a separate blog post because the topic comes up a lot. Just my two cents!
-Jeff

RCZ 01-28-2009 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slidefox (Post 25008)
Another reason these JDM manufacturer's price there kits so high is to prevent copying. Your paying for exclusivity. Veilside is a prime example with there Fortune Kits. You have to purchase the entire kit. No one piece can be ordered individually. One price... One Part#

Well, if you think about it, high pricing achieves the opposite to what you are saying. If you set the price high, then that leaves a good margin for people to make by copying it. If the kit is 4k and I can buy it and make copies and sell the copies at 2k..you have a business. However, if you make the original product more accessible, you will 1) increase your volume of sales and 2) discourage people from copying it because there isn't enough margin to justify the effort.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Ztune (Post 25176)
JDM pricing is always the debate, but I think it's because the average consumer interested in these products doesn't understand the costs of engineering quality as good as an Amuse product, Zele, Sunline, MCR, etc.

The R&D alone can be absurd but factor in simple business economics... let's say a part takes $30,000 for R&D and making a mold to produce the parts. On a 350Z the market might allow sales of 100 units to make back the production costs and make some profit. With a smaller market like the 370Z or G37, total unit sales might be only 30-40% of the volume of the older Z, simply there are less cars and less people modifying right now. If only 30-40% of the volume is there, there is simply no way to recoup the investment cost unless each piece is more expensive. Just simple economics really.

Take for example the GT-R, or even GT3 Porsche, tuning parts are limited editions because the audience is so small compared to other cars people often compare pricing to (Z/G, S2000, EVO, etc). It's a very hard comparison to make. This probably deserves a separate blog post because the topic comes up a lot. Just my two cents!
-Jeff

This isnt a GT-R or a GT3. There will be tons of Z's on the road as time goes by, just like there are tons of 350Z's out right now. OK yeah they want to make back their money, however by that logic they should sell just one kit at 30K and call it a day. That is just being extreme. The point is, you have to strike a balance price that allows you to make back your R&D costs while maintaining a SUSTAINABLE business. I think they have grossly over-estimated that balance price and that OK, a few people are going to buy the kit, but you are really limiting your market by setting the price so high. Slidefox brings up the point of exclusivity... yeah its going to be super exclusive because this car's target audience, in general, isnt the super wealthy. Most of the people who buy this car, can't afford a $5000 body kit, if they could, they might have bough a Porsche GT3 or a GT-R in the first place. By that logic, companies are better off sacrificing some exclusivity and I don't mean much, in exchange for a sustainable business model. You could price the same kit at $3000 and it would still be plenty exclusive in this market, yet it would allow them to cover costs quicker and make money in the long run...

azn370z 01-28-2009 08:50 PM

I have to agree with what rcz said. I how ever will pay $1000 for a carbon fiber lip. But I know most people will not.

INTENSEPOWER 01-29-2009 12:38 PM

It would really be disappointing if this thread turned into another lame argument about original vs replica. Please start another thread if you posts are going in that direction. The thread title is "Zele complete AERO body kit for Nissan 370Z (Fairlady Z34) 01.08.09"; all discussion should be focused on that, not about how replica vs original. My 2 yen...

Darrrren(tired of watching the horse get beat on every board)

OMGWTFBBQ 01-29-2009 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Slidefox (Post 24551)
+1 Veilside and C-West are becoming common names here in the US. They are going to make a product that is priced to sell, but still has good quality. Sunline's lip; you are paying for exclusivity and quality.

:werd:

Even if the Zele Aero kit is ridiculously priced, there will still be a small market for them. These people include those who want that piece that the average person doesn't have. Sometimes it's nice not seeing the same lip/aero kit on every car on the street.

For example, I'm part of a Civic forum as well. The factory lip kit Honda offers is affordable and good-looking, so EVERYONE (no joke) has that lip kit. All of the cars look the same.

With that being said, it'll be nice to see a few of these kits on some cars here. It won't be overplayed hopefully. It'll be left for those who want to pay high dollars for something unique. That's my dos pesos.

venomz 01-30-2009 10:55 AM

lemans sunset with vent mod
 
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this is what i'd want mine to look like.

370Ztune 02-04-2009 11:04 AM

We have the US pricing for a few of the Zele items now available for pre-order. Should be able to finalize a few more prices by today.

Zele Carbon Radiator Shroud -
http://www.370ztune.com/images/produ...9ef4d_W300.jpg

Dreamin'Z 02-04-2009 11:20 AM

what's that
 
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Originally Posted by venomz (Post 25901)
this is what i'd want mine to look like.

hey what is on the roof that makes it look like glass. i don't like the yellow but this is really clean. It a very striking look for this vehicle. Still looks like a Z, with a little more to it though!!! Very nice work :pics:

ONEighty 02-06-2009 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Ztune (Post 27533)
We have the US pricing for a few of the Zele items now available for pre-order. Should be able to finalize a few more prices by today.

ehemm.....

Paradox 02-06-2009 12:36 PM

Looks good, this would be my 2nd choice, my 1st would have to be the rending that jonsibal made with the widebody.

370Ztune 02-09-2009 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 180°|Custom (Post 28195)
ehemm.....

Working on it today, sorry we have been real busy polishing up the site... take a looksie when you can. :ughdance:

370ZTune.com

370Ztune 02-09-2009 12:55 PM

Most of the Zele item pricing is now available except for the aero of course... check out the complete listing for Zele here: Zele products

We intentionally left off the pricing for the BBK. Call us for details on this if you are interested. Thanks.
-Jeff

ONEighty 02-09-2009 02:11 PM

When's the pricing on the aero going to be available?

DIGItonium 02-10-2009 01:25 PM

I'd like to see what the pricing for the Zele CF spoiler. Hopefully there won't be issues replacing the OEM spoiler with this one.

370Ztune 02-10-2009 07:57 PM

No news yet on aero pricing for Zele... a good sign to see the G37 aero pricing released over the weekend so I assume it won't be too much longer... keep checking!
-Jeff

GT Motoring 02-12-2009 11:17 AM

Zele has released the japanese pricing for all their 370Z and G37 parts last night late. We already have all the USA pricing. We will post this pricing once Zele approves our pricing for the US market. :)

370Ztune 02-12-2009 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 180°|Custom (Post 29052)
When's the pricing on the aero going to be available?

So the wait is over and the pricing has been well-anticipated for the last 6 weeks... we are proud to announce US pricing for Zele products. As we will have the largest stocking inventory of these products in the US, we as always have the fastest shipping times in the industry to back it up.

Pre-orders already on sale and the requests have already begun... let us know how we can help!
-Jeff

Zele Front Bumper

http://www.370ztune.com/images/produ...1401_W1200.jpg

Zele Side Skirts

http://www.370ztune.com/images/produ...239a_W1200.jpg

Zele Rear Bumper

http://www.370ztune.com/images/produ...317d_W1200.jpg

370Ztune 02-12-2009 12:50 PM

One of the other NEW additions to the 370Z Zele aero kit is the separate Zele carbon front lip. The front bumper can be purchased separately with or without the carbon front lip.

Check it out now:
Zele Carbon Front Lip

http://www.370ztune.com/images/produ...f1a4_W1200.jpg


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