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kbc749 01-21-2017 05:20 PM

Rattling: if you've solved a rattle in your rear hatch come
 
Hello all,

I have a rattle in my rear area and I understand there are many many things that it can possibly be and I am at my wits end with it. I have tested everything I can think of so I am calling out to try and find if anyone has solved my issue (or if there are any rattles that I don't mention here trying to fix)

Okay so I have Berk HFC's and AAM Short Tails so my exhaust is reasonably loud and has caused rattles before (like the roof liner rattle that I have fixed. Later, I installed a Evo-R Hi-wing and originally I thought that a washer falling into the hatch area was causing the issue but I have explored the hatch from every side and there is no rattle in the hatch. Because there was a new louder rattle that I have ever heard before, but it did not start the day I got the spoiler but like a week later.

The noise: a metallic rattling that intensifies as the exhaust gets louder and as the engine passes through the "hot" resonation range the rattle climbs louder and then falls off as the resonation range ends (this is low rpms up until like 5k, or that the engine noise drowns it out to the point where I cannot hear it)

What I have tried:

-Holding the spoiler to the deck while someone else rev's

-checked the hatch latch mechanism, the rattle occurs when the hatch is open and closed. So I do not believe the hatch mechanism is causing the rattle as does happen in some cases.

-Putting soft material in between every single panel in the rear hatch (part that opens when you open trunk).

-Removed allllll panels in the top hatch area.

-Checked every single bolt, the ones that hold the spoiler on, the ones that hold the little fog light on the hatch on, bolts that hold the hatch to the rear panel, holding the spoiler itself

-Checked the rear fog light panel underneath (held it while someone revv'd the engine, sound persisted and that metal panel did not move or vibrate at all)

-Checked the rattle that many people have in the roof liner that is some wire that heads to the antenna on the roof, occasionally this one acts up put putting some slight pressure on the roof where the wire is located stops this

-checked the "rattling plastic on glass" sound that is described in some issues where tapping the glass creates the rattle (this does not create the rattle for me) and putting your fingers between the glass and the plastic stops the rattle. I have checked this multiple times because as everyone says the sound travels down the glass and echos back and sounds like its in the back. And it sounds like my sound is coming from the back but this does not solve or quiet the noise.

-Removed Every single panel and piece of the rear hatch, including the spare tire and all parts and all panels. Now this one I did today and what I found is that the noise got VERY much louder. So naturally I thought it was a loose bolt or something on the metal of the rear hatch. After an hour worth of having someone else rev the engine and sitting in the hatch, trying to tighten bolts and pressing on the different panels of metal on the interior of the hatch. I cannot find any item that is loose or not properly attached or rubbing on any metallic surface.

-At this point I got outside the car with all of the panels removed and checked my license plate (which already has cardboard between the plate and the bumper) and the fog light plate again. When checking the fog light plate, my head was near the location of the "Nissan" emblem in the center and I did not hear any rattle outside the vehicle but could hear it echo'ing from the inside of the hatch. (I think)

-This caused me to try and check exhaust components themselves, so I laid under the back of the car and tried to shake the exhaust components in the hangers and the hangers creaked a little bit (which might be it idk)

-The exhaust does not have a leak or any silly "washer mods" that would create such a rattle and I am reasonably sure that all of the exhaust connections are tight enough.

Does anyone have any other ideas of what it might be. I feel like I have exhausted every thing I can think of?

And I know if I go to the stealership I'm sure they will say "well its modified so theres not much we can do". and I know its not as modified as other Z's but around here it might as well be running on unicorn magic and fairies, the way the local dealership treats me when I go in there like they cannot figure out why I modified the car at all.

Any insight that is offered would be much appreciated

KBC

ChaseZ 01-21-2017 05:28 PM

TL/DR

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disclaimer: don't actually use that lol

kbc749 01-22-2017 10:40 PM

Nice meme.

You have been so very helpful.

cooltoy 01-22-2017 10:50 PM

Sometimes a funny post helps relieve the "rattle in rear" pain.

nomodsjk 01-23-2017 04:08 PM

I had this same issue but it ended up being my coilovers one of the hats was loose and every time i went over a bump i got this rattle/banging noise which drove me nuts until i figured it out. Sux man good luck to u

tonythetiger 01-23-2017 04:13 PM

i have a fast intentions exhaust and have the same rattle high pitch noise, i can only hear it up to 4500rpm, rear interior hatch is stripped out, sounds like a screw is loose. im going to try and take off rear hatch door and see if noise disappears.

jaedub 01-24-2017 12:20 PM

I had a rattle coming from the rear hatch area as well until I swapped my rear bumper. My guess is the wire, wrapped in plastic hose, that connects to the hatch/trunk light. I noticed this in particular because it's a very viberatable part that goes through a thin metal sheet that can cause quite a ruckus.

mtbdave 01-31-2017 06:02 AM

I have a fast intentions exhaust and I also notice this rattle, it's a high pitch noise... anyone find a solution. It almost sounds like a piece of dynomat in the right spot would fix it.. Lol

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SouthArk370Z 01-31-2017 06:38 AM

Get a mechanic's stethoscope* (a paper towel tube make a good substitute) and see if you can pinpoint the source of the sound.

*Not a recommendation, just an example

JARblue 01-31-2017 08:41 AM

:iagree: I have the exact one SouthArk linked, and found it very useful in diagnosing a failing power steering pump. I think it was $1.99 on sale at one of the parking lot tent sales at HF.

Try to pinpoint a general area where the noise is coming from. Also, how many miles on your HFCs? I've heard HFCs rattling when the insides start to deteriorate, but that's not terribly common.

kbc749 02-04-2017 12:07 PM

Thank you all for your suggestions! I'll look into the wire going through to the tail light here when it warms up or when I can get the rest of my tools out to my current living location (took a COOP in a different state and my tool chest was not on the list of current essentials)

And my cats have about 30,000 miles on them so I suppose it could be that but I would say that the sound does not make much noise outside the vehicle (from what I can tell because I'm usually driving) But I will take a look when I check the rest of the exhaust for loose hanger bolts and things just to be sure.

I am going to be doing Swift Lowering springs soon so I will be under the car already so it cannot hurt to check the hats on the rear suspension as well because I could very well see it coming from there.

dmarando 05-29-2017 06:00 PM

I found my rattle
 
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I had a rattle which sounded like it was coming from the hatch area, I tore all the trim off in the hatch area and my wife drive me around. The rattle was there but it was coming from outside the car right by the passenger fender. So put all the trim back on, and started looking outside the car, I took the wheel off, the wheel wheel liner, but I couldn't find anything loose. Then I notice that little plastic cover that covers the end of the chassis on the bottom right of the wheel well (see pic). It was a little loose so I took it off to see why and low and behold under it sitting on the end of the chassis was a bunch of rocks. Over time they must have gotten in from all the road work they are doing. I cleaned it out and tighten up that plastic cover and no more rattle. Hope this helps anyone that is going nuts and can't seem to see loose, check under that black cover.

BuddyH 05-31-2017 08:51 PM

I had the same problem and fixed it. It was some body sheet metal just below the latch. Had a friend drive around with me in the back and stopped the noise by applying pressure. A couple sheets of dynomat to soak up the vibrations, and it's gone. Don't know how a louder exhaust caused it, but it was an issue both me and a friend had, that was fixed with the same method. Just me .02

SG4247 05-31-2017 09:12 PM

There is a sheet metal heat shield above the rear muffler, that vibrates like crazy on my car with Akropovic CBE. I thought it was coming from the spare tire area, until I stripped the back of the rear interior out, and rode in the rear hatch area with the wife driving. The noise was coming up through the floor where the spare goes.

Then I climbed under the rear of the car, added extra bolts to the fog light bracket (didnt help), and then discovered the muffler heat shield was causing the noise. The heat shield only makes noise with aftermarket exhaust on my car.

Thinking about removing the heat shield now...

CharmCityZ 06-01-2017 07:39 PM

I had a high pitched rattle for months that was driving me insane, after taking apart the entire damn hatch area it ended up being one of the lil cargo net clips was broken off inside the panel. Replaced all 4 clips and rattle is gone..:rofl2::rofl2:

kbc749 06-02-2017 02:29 PM

Its funny that this came back up while I'm on my lunch break.

So my rattle issue continues but I found a major culprit. It appears the previous owner of my Z somehow bent down the heat shielding that is right at the Y pipe. it was bent down and touching the top of the Y pipe. It was actually worn through in some places where the constant vibrations had beaten away at the metal.

After discovering this, I bent the metal shielding back upwards to its original position and went for a drive. THE SOUND WAS GONE....for about 2 gears worth of a pull and then the metal bent back down onto the Y pipe.

This explains the hot cold issues where the rattle is worse in the winter because the metal contracts and ends up bent back down where the "memory" from being bent there for so long is stronger than the "original" location.

I have looked on the parts fische in every section that I can think of and cannot find a place to order that specific piece of heat shielding. This has kinda been on hold as I have been working in Missouri for 6 months and seem to be always busy. Will visit the dealer back home when I'm finished here because the one here was even less friendly (which I didnt think was possible) "Oh yeah we don't normally work on modified cars"...


Anyways in the time of silence between that metal rattling I have heard other little rattles developing, I am almost at 70,000 miles so I guess it is just a factor of time that stuff will start coming loose. @dmarando I haven't checked this area and I will definitely take a look there!

mults 06-02-2017 03:00 PM

I had a rattle in my old Firebird that drove me nuts for years. It turned out to be the rear license plate. Only when I put on a chrome frame did the noise go away.

Also, I was getting a buzzing sound from interior of the Z for a few years and I finally found that the clip for the garage door opener (on the sun visor) was loose. Once I tightened it a little, the noise disappeared.

Somethings are so simple, yet a bear to find...

littlejuanito 10-31-2017 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SG4247 (Post 3658990)
There is a sheet metal heat shield above the rear muffler, that vibrates like crazy on my car with Akropovic CBE. I thought it was coming from the spare tire area, until I stripped the back of the rear interior out, and rode in the rear hatch area with the wife driving. The noise was coming up through the floor where the spare goes.

Then I climbed under the rear of the car, added extra bolts to the fog light bracket (didnt help), and then discovered the muffler heat shield was causing the noise. The heat shield only makes noise with aftermarket exhaust on my car.

Thinking about removing the heat shield now...

:iagree: this is definitively the culprit to that metallic rattle that's heard when having an aftermarket exhaust. It comes and goes as the RPM's go up and down.

CharmCityZ 11-03-2017 11:16 AM

I had a horrible rattle in the hatch for months that drove me insane, ended up being that one of the luggage tie down clips was cracked..😂

13Xterra 01-15-2018 08:29 AM

I just spent a month tearing my car apart trying to fix this. It started after I installed the AAM Resonated Short Tails. The exhaust sounds so good but the rattle was ruining the entire experience for me. I was very close to going back to the stock Nismo exaust. I made a video about it on my YouTube channel in which you can clearly hear the rattle and how I finally fixed it. Hopefully it helps someone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://youtu.be/YxXKbfkMWq8

13Xterra 02-06-2018 03:55 PM

Guys, I am not trying to pimp my youtube channel here but after making my first video on the rattles, it happened again. This time I tore everything out of the back and started over. I finally found the source which was the motor that opens the hatch. I have read ALL the threads here regarding hatch rattles and tried alll of the suggestions. No one has mentioned the part I am talking about so hopefully this helps someone who may be going through the frustrating process of tracking down their rattle with no success. It’s the most boring video on earth so feel free to skip to the last 5 minutes or so to see the part I am talking about and how to fix it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://youtu.be/4NYFhM7Xl4A

cv129 02-25-2018 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13Xterra (Post 3728207)
Guys, I am not trying to pimp my youtube channel here but after making my first video on the rattles, it happened again. This time I tore everything out of the back and started over. I finally found the source which was the motor that opens the hatch. I have read ALL the threads here regarding hatch rattles and tried alll of the suggestions. No one has mentioned the part I am talking about so hopefully this helps someone who may be going through the frustrating process of tracking down their rattle with no success. It’s the most boring video on earth so feel free to skip to the last 5 minutes or so to see the part I am talking about and how to fix it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://youtu.be/4NYFhM7Xl4A

I have an 09 with stock exhaust. Since day one, there has been this clicking noise/small rattling noise when I go over bumps. And I always thought it was coming from the passenger side of the trunk.

Today I went down the rabbit hole and quickly realized the source of annoyance wasn't going to be as obvious as I hoped to be. Then, I came across your video, and voila!!!!!

We have the exact same problem. I threw some goo silicone lubricant on the gears (I also needed to do the same for the little metal one), and the noise went away. I also removed the trunk weight.

Thank you for sharing your relentless journey in locating this noise This has annoyed me for years!!!!!


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