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Apache_Driver 12-05-2009 12:36 PM

My RX-8 was a rock/bug magnet. I had a clear bra installed shortly after purchase and it did help out a lot, but not to the degree of a leather bra. On my red 8, I thought the black bra actually improved the way the front end looked, but I agree that they are butt ugly on our 370s. Regardless, I make frequent 300+ mile drives home, and you can't beat the protection that a good leather bra provides for long road trips. Sounds like many of you are comfortable with layering clear bras for extra protection, but for me the 300 dollar investment in something that I only use for long trips is a winner.

To be honest, I don't understand why this is such a heated topic. If the car is yours do whatever you want to protect it to the best of your ability. If a leather bra just makes you nauseous, then clearly they aren't for you. I don't think there's much of an argument, however, for saying that a sheet of plastic or two provides more protection against road debris than a thick leather pad. It may be an acceptable substitute for some, but better? That just violates whatever common sense I have left, which isn't much I assure you.

Cheers

370Zsteve 12-05-2009 12:40 PM

My favorite color is Green. :rofl2:

kdo2milger 12-05-2009 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 309379)
My favorite color is Green. :rofl2:

:mad: no its not!!!

its blue :gtfo2:

antennahead 12-05-2009 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apache_Driver (Post 309372)
My RX-8 was a rock/bug magnet. I had a clear bra installed shortly after purchase and it did help out a lot, but not to the degree of a leather bra. On my red 8, I thought the black bra actually improved the way the front end looked, but I agree that they are butt ugly on our 370s. Regardless, I make frequent 300+ mile drives home, and you can't beat the protection that a good leather bra provides for long road trips. Sounds like many of you are comfortable with layering clear bras for extra protection, but for me the 300 dollar investment in something that I only use for long trips is a winner.

To be honest, I don't understand why this is such a heated topic. If the car is yours do whatever you want to protect it to the best of your ability. If a leather bra just makes you nauseous, then clearly they aren't for you. I don't think there's much of an argument, however, for saying that a sheet of plastic or two provides more protection against road debris than a thick leather pad. It may be an acceptable substitute for some, but better? That just violates whatever common sense I have left, which isn't much I assure you.

Cheers



:iagree:

I did add however that from personal experience, my 3M clearbra does protect very well and has zero defects after 8 months of steady highway use.

frost 12-05-2009 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 309379)
My favorite color is Green. :rofl2:

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 309381)
:mad: no its not!!!

its blue :gtfo2:

You two are redonkulous, everyone knows the best color for a Z is titty pink! :mad:

HTP AutoWorks 12-05-2009 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 309097)
I'm not putting false information about anything. And its funny you should mention the "tire" incident you had. That is exactly what one of the incidents I was refering to when I had a clear bra on my Shelby GT and it didn't do sh*t. The foot long piece of tire "gator" flew off the back of a semi and slammed the front passenger portion of my front fascia. It actually pierced the clear-bra leaving a ragged edge in the clear-bra material and made it to the actual bumper plastic leaving a tread mark outline and indentation that to the day I sold the car never came out.

Now on my 370Z I had the same thing happen but I had the leather "80's technology" bra on. It slammed the car even harder than the other incident with the Stang as this "gator" was larger and rocked the 370Z when it hit it. I immediately pulled over to the side of the road expecting to find all kinds of damage....and there was absolutely nothing at all. Even the "80's technology" leather still remained intact. It just had a flat-black scuff across the leather at the strike point which came off very easily using some leather cleaner and conditioner.

So spare me your knee-jerk "sales job" when I can show that "80's technology" works any day of the week because it NEVER fails and isn't a pure CRAP SHOOT like when using "modern-day clear-bra technology". :thumbsdown:

And BTW...just because a clear-bra makes its way onto some exotic brand of vehicle has absolutely nothing to do with how well the clear bra will actually protect the car. So HTP AutoWorks, do you want a shot at the "proven technologies" title?

Well I am not sure what you mean by "taking a shot at the title" but I will put a clear bra up against a leather one any day of the week. For one I wont get laughed at for having something that ugly on a beautiful car. Two the clear bra will protect not only the front but also the rocker panels, lights, A pillars... pretty much every square inch of the car if you want it where your leather bra will only protect part of the front. 1 headlight along will cost more than the installation of a clear bra. Three with a clear bra you do not have to worry about the bra vibrating at high speeds... once dirt gets underneath it is will be abrasive on the paint. And everyone knows how soft paint is on todays vehicles. And lastly I will not ever have to worry about taking it off and putting it back on. Its on 24/7 translating to more vehicle protection all of the time... not just when you have it on. So if we want to make this a test then sure... I guess with a mouth like your you surely have something in mind... or are you just all hot air??? :stirthepot:

antennahead 12-05-2009 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 309379)
My favorite color is Green. :rofl2:

:gtfo2: Blue dude

:p

ZKindaGuy 12-05-2009 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 309256)
Reading these posts, I wish ZKindaGuy was a CamaroKindaGuy so he could go join those folks. Did no one ever teach you that it's not what you say, but how you say it?

:icon23::icon23::icon23::icon23::icon23::icon23:

ZKindaGuy 12-05-2009 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HTP AutoWorks (Post 309484)
Well I am not sure what you mean by "taking a shot at the title" but I will put a clear bra up against a leather one any day of the week. For one I wont get laughed at for having something that ugly on a beautiful car. Two the clear bra will protect not only the front but also the rocker panels, lights, A pillars... pretty much every square inch of the car if you want it where your leather bra will only protect part of the front. 1 headlight along will cost more than the installation of a clear bra. Three with a clear bra you do not have to worry about the bra vibrating at high speeds... once dirt gets underneath it is will be abrasive on the paint. And everyone knows how soft paint is on todays vehicles. And lastly I will not ever have to worry about taking it off and putting it back on. Its on 24/7 translating to more vehicle protection all of the time... not just when you have it on. So if we want to make this a test then sure... I guess with a mouth like your you surely have something in mind... or are you just all hot air??? :stirthepot:

Hey I said what I had to say and I provided the examples to prove my point. And there are alot of other people of the same opinion as well. Just read through the posts after you tried your infomercial bit. It seems to me you are the one that has to do the convincing, not me.

ZKindaGuy 12-05-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Apache_Driver (Post 309372)
My RX-8 was a rock/bug magnet. I had a clear bra installed shortly after purchase and it did help out a lot, but not to the degree of a leather bra. On my red 8, I thought the black bra actually improved the way the front end looked, but I agree that they are butt ugly on our 370s. Regardless, I make frequent 300+ mile drives home, and you can't beat the protection that a good leather bra provides for long road trips. Sounds like many of you are comfortable with layering clear bras for extra protection, but for me the 300 dollar investment in something that I only use for long trips is a winner.

To be honest, I don't understand why this is such a heated topic. If the car is yours do whatever you want to protect it to the best of your ability. If a leather bra just makes you nauseous, then clearly they aren't for you. I don't think there's much of an argument, however, for saying that a sheet of plastic or two provides more protection against road debris than a thick leather pad. It may be an acceptable substitute for some, but better? That just violates whatever common sense I have left, which isn't much I assure you.

Cheers

Its heated because Mr. HTP Autoworks had to latch onto my initial post and try to make an infomercial out of what I INITIALLY said.

He argues from a completely false premise that "modern technology" is better than "past technology" which is a huge bunch of :bs:. As the other posts here are testifying too the "old technology" leather bra's protect far better than the clear junk.

Apache_Driver 12-05-2009 09:51 PM

Well unfortunately I cannot side with either one as I will have both the clear bra on my car for daily driving, and save the leather one for long trips stored in the garage. Overkill, maybe, but I'll put my front bumper up against anyone else's after I put some serious mileage on the car.

I'm not too sure why anybody should be "laughed at" for having a leather bra on their car. Seems a bit much to me. But heck if that's the way it is then so be it. It's my damn car and I'll put a pink boa on the front of it if I want to.

Cheers.

370Zsteve 12-05-2009 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Apache_Driver (Post 309895)
Well unfortunately I cannot side with either one as I will have both the clear bra on my car for daily driving, and save the leather one for long trips stored in the garage. Overkill, maybe, but I'll put my front bumper up against anyone else's after I put some serious mileage on the car.

I'm not too sure why anybody should be "laughed at" for having a leather bra on their car. Seems a bit much to me. But heck if that's the way it is then so be it. It's my damn car and I'll put a pink boa on the front of it if I want to.

Cheers.

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Micas 12-05-2009 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 309095)
No what is a travesty is an attitude that one shouldn't try to take care of what they do have so that it lasts longer and maintains the highest possible value. I'm glad you aren't living in my neighborhood.

Well, that's.. uh.. psychotic.

Dude.. you've clearly lost your mind when you've internalized discussions about a car into a rage about personal crap about who lives in your neighborhood.

Seriously.. people enjoy their cars.. and the various things that are involed with them.. but you've gone completely over the rainbow, lost your mind, one flew over the cookoo's nest crazy in response to a thread.. about a car.. on the internet.

I fear for anyone who actually knows you in person.

Apache_Driver 12-05-2009 10:17 PM

370Zsteve,

That pic... I peed a little :rofl2:

Cheers

Master_Ly 12-06-2009 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 309090)
I bought the Nissan full-nose mask made for the 370Z. It cost about $25.00 more than the Covercraft, however the stretch fit is perfectly skin-tight so there is absolutely no looseness or folds to be seen anywhere. And the Nissan mask has the plastic hooks...no use of velcro at all.

From the looks of the Covercraft in the picture it doesn't look well designed given the folds in the material. It looks rather loose and ill-fitted.

The picture was when I was test fitting and I noticed that many are saying the same remarks so I clarified my reference about the picture in my initial post; may bad on the confusion. But I did not know the OEM has hooks. I may have to look into that! Thanks for your input.

Master_Ly 12-06-2009 11:32 AM

Advocates or those who has had experience with clear bras, how hard is it to remove after having it on for a very long time (e.g. 5+ years)? I ask out of curiosity since the majority do have clear bras versus the classic kind, with the exception to Apache_Driver! :)

antennahead 12-06-2009 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Master_Ly (Post 310203)
Advocates or those who has had experience with clear bras, how hard is it to remove after having it on for a very long time (e.g. 5+ years)? I ask out of curiosity since the majority do have clear bras versus the classic kind, with the exception to Apache_Driver! :)

The guy that installed mine uses steam to heat and remove the clearbra, and says they will come off easily in the hands of a pro who knows what they are doing.

ZKindaGuy 12-06-2009 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micas (Post 309906)
Well, that's.. uh.. psychotic.

Dude.. you've clearly lost your mind when you've internalized discussions about a car into a rage about personal crap about who lives in your neighborhood.

Seriously.. people enjoy their cars.. and the various things that are involed with them.. but you've gone completely over the rainbow, lost your mind, one flew over the cookoo's nest crazy in response to a thread.. about a car.. on the internet.

I fear for anyone who actually knows you in person.

Yada..yada...yada....

HTP AutoWorks 12-06-2009 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 310332)
Yada..yada...yada....

Wow you really know how to make friends in here. Good luck with your leather bra... really!

by the way, you pointed out the plus's... if thats wht you call them on leather bras, you didnt even respond to what I posted. I guess it was hard to come back with anything when you are so obviousely wrong.

Master_Ly 12-07-2009 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by antennahead (Post 310239)
The guy that installed mine uses steam to heat and remove the clearbra, and says they will come off easily in the hands of a pro who knows what they are doing.

Ah, okay. I kind of vision like really bad glue residual still on there but I'm sure in a professional's hand, it would be fine.

antennahead 12-07-2009 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Master_Ly (Post 311274)
Ah, okay. I kind of vision like really bad glue residual still on there but I'm sure in a professional's hand, it would be fine.

I had my original installation done locally, by a guy that was recommended by another person in the business. This guy started out installing window tint and progressed to clearbras. He was doing all the work for the Mercedes, Porsche, and the Infiniti dealers, so I allowed him to do my car. I can't stress enough that you need someone who is experienced and has been doing this for a while to do your install, unless you are not that picky. I am too picky, and was not happy with the work. I had some stretch marks in the material, and a few places that just were not perfect. I couldn't get him to redo it, and didn't want to spend more money than the cost to replace trying to sue him...... so I found a pro in Charlotte (3 hour drive) to remove the one I wasn't happy with and install a new one. I watched him steam and remove the old one, as well as clean off the bumper. He then polished the bumper to a high shine so I would have a nice surface underneath the new clearbra. I wouldn't worry about removal down the road, from what I saw it is not an issue. Oh, the new clearbra is PERFECT. If I didn't tell people it was on the car, you would never know it.

John

Master_Ly 12-09-2009 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by antennahead (Post 311826)
I had my original installation done locally, by a guy that was recommended by another person in the business. This guy started out installing window tint and progressed to clearbras. He was doing all the work for the Mercedes, Porsche, and the Infiniti dealers, so I allowed him to do my car. I can't stress enough that you need someone who is experienced and has been doing this for a while to do your install, unless you are not that picky. I am too picky, and was not happy with the work. I had some stretch marks in the material, and a few places that just were not perfect. I couldn't get him to redo it, and didn't want to spend more money than the cost to replace trying to sue him...... so I found a pro in Charlotte (3 hour drive) to remove the one I wasn't happy with and install a new one. I watched him steam and remove the old one, as well as clean off the bumper. He then polished the bumper to a high shine so I would have a nice surface underneath the new clearbra. I wouldn't worry about removal down the road, from what I saw it is not an issue. Oh, the new clearbra is PERFECT. If I didn't tell people it was on the car, you would never know it.

John

Very insightful. I'm glad to hear that it worked out for you in the long run. Down the road after I finish graduate school, I may have to consider this. Thank you, John!

antennahead 12-09-2009 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Master_Ly (Post 315344)
Very insightful. I'm glad to hear that it worked out for you in the long run. Down the road after I finish graduate school, I may have to consider this. Thank you, John!

You're very welcome :tiphat:

Master_Ly 01-11-2010 11:42 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Okay, after finding out that the OEM one does NOT use velcro, I decided to return my Covercraft one and purchase the OEM one. I also did realize it does fit better.

I wish I had taken a picture of the Covercraft completely fitted to give an accurate comparison because the picture in my 1st post of this thread was a test fitment. I attached some pictures of the OEM one fitted on completely.

The only PITA with the OEM one was putting it on. That sucker was super snug! But it is worth the effort!

So bottom line:
  • Fitment: OEM (much more snug)
  • Quality: TIE
  • Difficulty (putting it on): Covercraft
  • Design: OEM (just by a little because it uses industrial buttons versus velcro in certain areas)

So the winner is OEM! If this helped, please "rep" me! Thank you!

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sonic370 05-09-2010 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 309090)
I bought the Nissan full-nose mask made for the 370Z. It cost about $25.00 more than the Covercraft, however the stretch fit is perfectly skin-tight so there is absolutely no looseness or folds to be seen anywhere. And the Nissan mask has the plastic hooks...no use of velcro at all.

From the looks of the Covercraft in the picture it doesn't look well designed given the folds in the material. It looks rather loose and ill-fitted.

I agree i just put on the Nissan mask on my 370.It fits like a glove and i like the use of the plastic hooks. I'd rather look at the black bra then look at and deal with chips.

tonybui 05-10-2010 12:14 AM

What's the point of a bra ?? you trying to keep your car nice from rocks but with bra on, its already ugly !!

wishihadnav 05-10-2010 03:00 PM

^haha..not a fan of bras either.

Spec Jay 05-10-2010 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 304090)
i cant see myself getting a car bra...

ive seen too many of my friends have them and end up with a line all the way across the hood where the upper end of the bra continiously beat the hood from the wind at speed...

especially with nissan's soft paint...

thats why you get a full front clip cover. thats what i did.

Master_Ly 05-16-2010 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tonybui (Post 531296)
What's the point of a bra ?? you trying to keep your car nice from rocks but with bra on, its already ugly !!

Quote:

Originally Posted by wishihadnav (Post 531915)
^haha..not a fan of bras either.

To each his own so for me, I agree with you two. I much rather not sport a bra. BUT, as I mentioned in my previous posts in this thread, I do a lot of long interstate driving at a minimum of a bi-weekly frequency and during the spring and summer seasons, I straight up just don't want to sit and scrub off all of the ridiculous number of bugs that I kill. If having a bra to reduce the workload of cleaning my car (and minimize rock chips), then so be it. I consider it as a cleaning efficiency investment. :tup: Also, I'm the same way with waxing her so it's just as frequent.

Ztoon 05-16-2010 12:10 PM

Now, it's called the bro. Or, the mansiere.

Well, I have to tell you, it's a very interesting idea.

You know, selling bras exclusively to women, we're really only utilising
fifty percent of the market.

And, to be perfectly frank, I've always felt I could use some support. I
know, when I'm wearing Banlon, there appears to be some jiggling.

I wouldn't be caught dead in Banlon.

So uh, what d'you see in the back? Hooks? Velcro?
What?

Definitely velcro.


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