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GeauxTigers1 12-17-2015 09:56 PM

RHD Japan-Amuse Vestito Wing Issue-please help
 
****UPDATE! RHD Japan has been amazing. They did some research on the wing and have determined it's actually a Dry Carbon set up they sent me. Which explains the cloud from when the Resin was sucked up. The shop I spoke with taught me a TON about carbon Fiber today and they are incredibly knowledgable. That being said, he is 100% confident in being able to make this wing absolutely shine and even complimented how nice the piece was as he's seen quite a bit of Carbon Fiber in this "raw" stage. Will update with pics when it comes back from the shop!***

Hey guys,

So the long awaited Wing just came in today! :D Hood side mirrors, pillars, fenders, and lip are going to be a bit longer but this is the first piece! I was a bit sad to see the condition it came in though, but all minor and easy fixes EXCEPT this:

Carbon fiber looks EXTREMELY cloudy and just awful. Almost like a protective wax coating? Can't figure it out though. Tried to wash off and once it dries it just goes right back to it's cloudy state. I don't want to buff it until I hear back from RHD, but can anyone put my mind at ease as to what to do?

All the carbon fiber looks like this. Notice the cloud look, even some patches that look extra cloudy and surface scratches in the haze itself:
http://i.imgur.com/ygdNYbK.jpg
Side view really shows this:
http://i.imgur.com/X9t5tLg.jpg

Gurney Flap came in perfect and exactly how I'd expect CF to look. You can see the cloudyness even more when I place these up next to each other:
http://i.imgur.com/4cdRh7N.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TwkhzyK.jpg

The minor parts but still disappointing that I can fix. First chip is on the upper rear and will be covered up with the gurney flap:
http://i.imgur.com/LegQeB1.jpg

Second chip is right where the Carbon Fiber meets the fiberglass. This I plan to have the pearl white just paint over it. The line will essentially start right where this chip starts:
http://i.imgur.com/oHQlHkt.jpg

TerribleONE 12-17-2015 10:20 PM

Yikes sorry to see this man. Looking forward to actually seeing the gurney flap installed though iv been thinking about getting one

GeauxTigers1 12-17-2015 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3370659)
Yikes sorry to see this man. Looking forward to actually seeing the gurney flap installed though iv been thinking about getting one

Have you ever seen the CF come in like this? Really hoping it's just something I need to buff out. I don't understand how it could become this cloudy? They had to of seen this, how in their right mind they think they can ship this is beyond me. Worried to see how this goes. Also ordered a crap load more from them so not a good sign that this is the first piece that came in.

GaleForce 12-17-2015 10:53 PM

Have a bodyshop sand it down, then clear coat. It should be ok.

street2soul 12-17-2015 11:03 PM

that doesnt look right.. definately contact vendor first and see what they propose

street2soul 12-17-2015 11:05 PM

my buddy's dry carbon fiber spoiler doesn't look as nearly as cloudy or uneven like this. only "matt" feel. i would expect the same finish from this vendor, but never dealt with them so don't know what they're quality is.

TriNismo 12-18-2015 12:22 AM

RHD Japan-Amuse Vestito Wing Issue-please help
 
Ordered a few items from RHDJapan and never had any issues with quality, including a Zele CF radiator shroud which was excellent condition, so this puzzled me that they would ship these out in those condition. Shipping back to Japan for refund would be a huge pain..If anything, get them to refund you partially for what you paid, maybe that's enough $ to go get it fixed. Good luck


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GeauxTigers1 12-18-2015 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 3370673)
Have a bodyshop sand it down, then clear coat. It should be ok.

This is what I'm PRAYING but obviously I need to hear from RHD before touching it. I sand it down, still doesn't look right and then I'm seriously f'd

GeauxTigers1 12-18-2015 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TriNismo (Post 3370704)
Ordered a few items from RHDJapan and never had any issues with quality, including a Zele CF radiator shroud which was excellent condition, so this puzzled me that they would ship these out in those condition. Shipping back to Japan for refund would be a huge pain..If anything, get them to refund you partially for what you paid, maybe that's enough $ to go get it fixed. Good luck


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Ya man, nothing but great things from them. And they've been wonderful thus far with customer service so I can't imagine they'd send it like this one purpose unless I'm missing something. Maybe it's in it's "pre-prep" stage and a body shop will know just what to do. I thought it was odd that the wing came so fast (it was about 6 weeks) so who knows how long this thing was sitting at their warehouse :/

GeauxTigers1 12-18-2015 01:07 AM

GREAT news!! This actually might just be in it's rawest form. I did some researching and found a video of a guy restoring his carbon fiber hood. Right after he wet sands it down at 5mins 10s, it looks exactly like my wing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJhQk-5H6Bg

Then at the end, he puts on a clear coat at 9 m 16s and she's all purty. So I bet the body shop knows exactly what to do. ;)

Ima excited again!:ughdance:

Apex2Apex 12-18-2015 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 3370673)
Have a bodyshop sand it down, then clear coat. It should be ok.

If the description of the part(s) he bought matched what was shipped I would agree. If they are not, I'll be damned if I am going to invest more money into fixing something that I shouldn't have to fix because of poor quality.

Hotrodz 12-18-2015 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Apex2Apex (Post 3370866)
If the description of the part(s) he bought matched what was shipped I would agree. If they are not, I'll be damned if I am going to invest more money into fixing something that I shouldn't have to fix because of poor quality.

I would agree if you he was not talking about a company that is halfway around the world. The lesser of the evils is to fix it so you can enjoy it and move on!

GaleForce 12-18-2015 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Apex2Apex (Post 3370866)
If the description of the part(s) he bought matched what was shipped I would agree. If they are not, I'll be damned if I am going to invest more money into fixing something that I shouldn't have to fix because of poor quality.

It's a part that requires finishing. Like most bodykit pieces, paint and clear coat is required.

The main issue I see with this part is the chip on the edge and I would ask the vendor for a partial refund because of that issue.

TerribleONE 12-18-2015 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 3370892)
It's a part that requires finishing. Like most bodykit pieces, paint and clear coat is required.

The main issue I see with this part is the chip on the edge and I would ask the vendor for a partial refund because of that issue.

:iagree:

GeauxTigers1 12-18-2015 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3370885)
I would agree if you he was not talking about a company that is halfway around the world. The lesser of the evils is to fix it so you can enjoy it and move on!

Exactly this. No response from them last night. We shall see

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 3370892)
It's a part that requires finishing. Like most bodykit pieces, paint and clear coat is required.

The main issue I see with this part is the chip on the edge and I would ask the vendor for a partial refund because of that issue.

This is great, and I really hope that is the case as I was disappointed last night. I've ordered CF in the past but never JDM like this so it just wasn't exactly what I was expecting. The chips I agree, but nonetheless the gurney flap will be a perfect fix. ;) Thanks guys! Will post up pics after the clear coat!

TerribleONE 12-18-2015 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3370955)
Exactly this. No response from them last night. We shall see



This is great, and I really hope that is the case as I was disappointed last night. I've ordered CF in the past but never JDM like this so it just wasn't exactly what I was expecting. The chips I agree, but nonetheless the gurney flap will be a perfect fix. ;) Thanks guys! Will post up pics after the clear coat!

I'd be curious how much that wing slows you down if you do another 1/2 mile event :rofl2:

Hotrodz 12-18-2015 10:29 AM

Lower it the car by an inch or so and problem solved. :p

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GeauxTigers1 12-18-2015 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3370957)
I'd be curious how much that wing slows you down if you do another 1/2 mile event :rofl2:

HAHA! My next 1/2 mile event I'll actually have some great tires so I'll be able to use 2nd rather than be in 3rd from a 40mph :P So it'll be much faster, Mainly bc of the wing tho. LOL

sunkist350z 12-19-2015 09:44 PM

I would have whom ever you ordered it from have pick it up and send you a new one. Send them the pictures of the damaged carbon. I have most of evo-r carbon stuff on my car and they look great 2+ years just installed his carbon lip flawless carbon.

GeauxTigers1 12-19-2015 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z (Post 3372145)
I would have whom ever you ordered it from have pick it up and send you a new one. Send them the pictures of the damaged carbon. I have most of evo-r carbon stuff on my car and they look great 2+ years just installed his carbon lip flawless carbon.

That's awesome man! Ya really no reason it should look like this. I've already messaged them and it's been 48 hours with no response. Attached pics and everything. I'm heading to a shop on Monday just to see their thoughts. If I don't hear back from them by then I'm going to be disputing.

kenchan 12-20-2015 05:44 PM

i never liked RHD.

btw, my ings+ splitter came unfinished like dat. i sanded i down, clearcoated it, and polished it at the end. looks :yum:

sunkist350z 12-20-2015 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3372455)
i never liked RHD.

btw, my ings+ splitter came unfinished like dat. i sanded i down, clearcoated it, and polished it at the end. looks :yum:

I would stay away from RHD japan, japanparts.com been around 15+ years when I had my fd3s I ordred many carbonfiber parts from that site. My panspeed carbon wing came clearcoated already as it should have already especially paying good money for the amuse wing.

GeauxTigers1 12-21-2015 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3372455)
i never liked RHD.

btw, my ings+ splitter came unfinished like dat. i sanded i down, clearcoated it, and polished it at the end. looks :yum:

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunkist350z (Post 3372522)
I would stay away from RHD japan, japanparts.com been around 15+ years when I had my fd3s I ordred many carbonfiber parts from that site. My panspeed carbon wing came clearcoated already as it should have already especially paying good money for the amuse wing.

Ya well, just received notification for my fujimura hood so we shall see. LOL Meeting with a body shop tomorrow. I'm a little iffy on this thing. Idk even sanding it down makes me wary. Good to know someone else had this issue though and had a resolution. Depending on what the body shop says tomorrow, I'll be disputing with Paypal and my CC.

swiss370Z 12-21-2015 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 3370892)
It's a part that requires finishing. Like most bodykit pieces, paint and clear coat is required.

The main issue I see with this part is the chip on the edge and I would ask the vendor for a partial refund because of that issue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3370926)
:iagree:

+1 :iagree:

sunkist350z 12-21-2015 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3372704)
Ya well, just received notification for my fujimura hood so we shall see. LOL Meeting with a body shop tomorrow. I'm a little iffy on this thing. Idk even sanding it down makes me wary. Good to know someone else had this issue though and had a resolution. Depending on what the body shop says tomorrow, I'll be disputing with Paypal and my CC.

I would make a claim with paypal, good luck.

GeauxTigers1 12-22-2015 11:12 AM

GREAT News from the body shop yesterday! He took one look at it and knew he could take care of it. Confirmed exactly what we were thinking is that it was in it's raw form and wasn't finished yet. He did say usually carbon fiber comes actually clear coated and looking good prior but it was not a problem at all. Also, the great news is the last pic on page 1 is not a chip. He sanded it down and found some beautiful CF sitting right under it. It was actually just some residue from the fiberglass. The chip on the back part of the wing however is a chip. It's not clear into the CF itself so he said he will be able to fix it perfect, but thank god for the gurney flap regardless bc that'll be perfect. The guy REALLY knows his CF too as he has a personal '91 NSX flipping race car that is covered in Carbon Fiber that he's modding even more sitting in his garage.

Bc of christmas it's going to take a few weeks, (especially the longer time to dry and cure bc of the cold temps) but will post up pics when it comes back! Oh and still talking to RHD bc y'all are absolutely right, this deserves some sort of credit. But my main concern is the new Toy for the Z. Fujimura hood shipping notification just came in too! :D

kenchan 12-23-2015 09:42 AM

yep, should be fine. my ings turned out very nice. areas with minor voids can be filled and painted black before the clear. wont be able to tell.

Hotrodz 12-23-2015 11:40 AM

Lol, I have a couple of small areas along the edges of my hood, most people don't notice it, but I use a black sharpie and it works like a charm.

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TerribleONE 12-23-2015 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3374460)
yep, should be fine. my ings turned out very nice. areas with minor voids can be filled and painted black before the clear. wont be able to tell.

Its photoshopped... I would hope it looks good.

GeauxTigers1 12-24-2015 01:30 AM

UPDATE! RHD Japan has been amazing. They did some research on the wing and have determined it's actually a Dry Carbon set up they sent me. Which explains the cloud from when the Resin was sucked up. The shop I spoke with taught me a TON about carbon Fiber today and they are incredibly knowledgable. That being said, he is 100% confident in being able to make this wing absolutely shine and even complimented how nice the piece was as he's seen quite a bit of Carbon Fiber in this "raw" stage. Will update with pics when it comes back from the shop!

kenchan 12-24-2015 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3374527)
Its photoshopped... I would hope it looks good.

:owned: true dat..

Hotrodz 12-24-2015 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3374833)
UPDATE! RHD Japan has been amazing. They did some research on the wing and have determined it's actually a Dry Carbon set up they sent me. Which explains the cloud from when the Resin was sucked up. The shop I spoke with taught me a TON about carbon Fiber today and they are incredibly knowledgable. That being said, he is 100% confident in being able to make this wing absolutely shine and even complimented how nice the piece was as he's seen quite a bit of Carbon Fiber in this "raw" stage. Will update with pics when it comes back from the shop!

Lol, that is good news and I think was the very first question I asked you about it lmao!:p :stirthepot:


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