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Chuck33079 09-08-2015 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 370bluez (Post 3304238)
This is good info. That product looks similar in nature to Frost King but thicker it would be a good layer on top of Dynamat. Btw does it smell?

Not smell at all. And their deadener is fairly cheap, so you might as well make it a full layer while you're in there.

The main culprit for the road noise is the tires, though. You can't get around that with foam and deadener.

370bluez 09-08-2015 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3304242)
Not smell at all. And their deadener is fairly cheap, so you might as well make it a full layer while you're in there.

The main culprit for the road noise is the tires, though. You can't get around that with foam and deadener.

Mine are at roughly 80% tread. While tires do make a lot of noise this car has amazingly little noise insulation. The entire trunk only has a few strips of 1/16" sound insulation. Usually there would be some kind of carpet or a wheel liner etc.

My original idea was to pull down the wheel liners and put dynamat there... then I ducked into the wheel wells and was shocked to find nothing there.

I have never had a car without wheel-well liners.

My car isn't very loud over good pavement but it is really bad over coarse pavement. I was hoping to cut that down a bit.

Dirk McGurck 09-09-2015 10:36 AM

Do you have any exhaust work?

370bluez 09-09-2015 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck (Post 3304808)
Do you have any exhaust work?

100% stock.

mishuko 09-09-2015 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 370bluez (Post 3304154)
I did... I looked at at least 10 threads. Most don't have any measurements behind their claims. And from what I could tell most seem disappointed even after covering the entire trunk etc.

The proper way to apply material like dynamat isn't to cover every single space of metal but only a portion preferably in the middle of a panel i went a bit overboard since these cars don't even have wheel well liners?! WTF is up with that. Which explains the whole pebble issue.

Unless you're looking for mass damping through the sheer weight of the material. But that would require 2-3 layers of dynamat which would weigh 50lbs and is completely insane.

i agree with that statement about 2-3 full layers being insane but i did double up on the wheel well since there was no insulation as you have pointed out.

one of the things to remember is this is a pure-bred sports car. it's not a luxury sports coupe or anything close to a 'luxury' branded car so you won't be getting the same conveniences that come with the luxury badge.

i tried just the wheel wells and the spare wheel section, went back and did the entire trunk and noticed an improvement. also going from the stock tires to re-11's made a big improvement in road noise.

the road noise is fine minus hearining the pebble pings and long drives (more than a few hours). I did a few 4 hour drives before and after the install and it definitely helped relieve the road noise stress.

370bluez 09-09-2015 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3305010)
i agree with that statement about 2-3 full layers being insane but i did double up on the wheel well since there was no insulation as you have pointed out.

one of the things to remember is this is a pure-bred sports car. it's not a luxury sports coupe or anything close to a 'luxury' branded car so you won't be getting the same conveniences that come with the luxury badge.

i tried just the wheel wells and the spare wheel section, went back and did the entire trunk and noticed an improvement. also going from the stock tires to re-11's made a big improvement in road noise.

the road noise is fine minus hearining the pebble pings and long drives (more than a few hours). I did a few 4 hour drives before and after the install and it definitely helped relieve the road noise stress.

Some truth to this but I have the same options as a Infiniti g37. Nav, leather, Bose with sub, heated seats etc. Saving 10-15 lbs in a non light 3350lb coupe seems asinine considering how much it can ruin the experience. Even with my 4-5lb hackjob the car is far more enjoyable on longer freeway runs.

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Dirk McGurck 09-10-2015 05:30 AM

The Infiniti G weighs like 400lbs more, though. And that's all sound proofing.

And the Z is a light coupe. Compared to most cars in its class it weighs a couple hundred pounds less.

370bluez 09-10-2015 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck (Post 3305383)
The Infiniti G weighs like 400lbs more, though. And that's all sound proofing.

And the Z is a light coupe. Compared to most cars in its class it weighs a couple hundred pounds less.

It is over a foot longer and has a back seat... A Porsche boxster S is 350lb lighter. Anyways ...

There aren't many 2 seater sports cars around the z size other than the corvette which is roughly the same weight while packing 100+ hp

Dirk McGurck 09-10-2015 11:18 AM

But to be fair, our floorboards aren't made of balsa wood.

mishuko 09-11-2015 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck (Post 3305704)
But to be fair, our floorboards aren't made of balsa wood.

i swear they are made of some sort of engineered metal to transfer the sound from the tires into your ear balls

370bluez 09-11-2015 08:24 PM

Put some dynamat in the wheel wells with FK on top and some frost king on the wheel liners. Really shitty pics... sorry about that. Will report DB findings later.


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Chuck33079 09-11-2015 09:07 PM

I've considered using some of the exterior spray on deadening in the rear wheel wells to really cut down the noise. That may be the ticket.

370bluez 09-14-2015 12:41 PM

Final update.

Approximately 3-4 DB decrease from stock. The car is now decent in terms of road noise and you can easily hold a conversation with a passenger without feeling like you're in a club.

Total weight add was around 4-5lbs. Totally WORTH it mod in my mind.

No this car is not a VAULT as some like to describe these experiences. But it is certainly more livable and no longer a nuisance.

TexasChuck 09-14-2015 01:12 PM

FrostKing?
 
BlueZ, What is the name of that CCF FrostKing? I haven't been able to find it.
Thanks
I like the sound deadening spray idea. If we could just get a even application.

370bluez 09-14-2015 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasChuck (Post 3308774)
BlueZ, What is the name of that CCF FrostKing? I haven't been able to find it.
Thanks
I like the sound deadening spray idea. If we could just get a even application.

I would recommend going the same route as me and adding Dynamat around the wheel wheels since it adds an initial layer of mass damping. Even with those two layers in place there is still room for improvement in that area. There is a TON of noise coming from there from the factory.

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