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chuckd05 10-14-2009 05:19 PM

PW 370z Bumper Color Very off
 
I have an 09 370z, I love the car so far, but my Z almost looks like it is two different color whites... and three if you include the front bumper because its not as bad as the rear but still no where near the same color as the other parts of the car...

the PW is very nice, but my rear bumper is so much more yellow tinted than my mud flap or fender or trunk, same with front bumper but not as bad. But both are definatly noticeable.. I know its not always exact but mine is pretty bad, if a paint shop gave me my car like this I would demand a re spray ... I didnt really inspect the car as much as i should of i guess and it disgusts me that I didnt notice this . :roflpuke2:

here are the pictures with the lowsy iphone camera... I will remove these with better ones with my digital camera tomorrow.


**** UPDATE - WENT TO THE DEALER SHIP SHORTLY AFTER POSTING THIS, THEY AGREED 100% THAT IT WAS NOT SATISFACTORY, TOOK PICTURES AND CONTACTED NISSAN AND GAVE ME AN APPROVAL FOR REAR BUMPER TO BE SPRAYED (THE ONLY THING I PUSHED FOR AT THAT TIME) .. AND AS PROMISED NISSAN RE PAINTED MY REAR BUMPER AT THEIR IN HOUSE BODY SHOP AND CAME OUT MINT

#2 NISSAN HAS NOW AGREED TO SPRAY MY FRONT BUMPER AS WELL, I WENT IN APPROX 1 MONTH AFTER I GOT THE REAR BUMPER DONE, INQUIRED ABOUT THE FRONT BEING OFF AS WELL, AND WITH ZERO HASSLE MY SERVICE MANAGER SNAPPED PICS, SENT THEM TO NISSAN AND IT WAS APPROVED, HAVE AN APPOINTMENT AT PERFORMANCE AUTO BODY IN SMITHTOWN, NY NOVEMBER 30TH, AS YOU CAN SEE THEY MATCHED THE REAR WAY BETTER THAN OEM, AND IM SURE THE FRONT WILL COME OUT THE SAME, I COULD NOT BE HAPPIER ****


The paint quality on the 370z seems very good but in my case, my front and rear bumper color was way off. What bothers me is that a few people had to stamp this car as good to go, when it had obvious blemishes.

Before:http://inlinethumb50.webshots.com/24...425x425Q85.jpghttp://inlinethumb10.webshots.com/45...425x425Q85.jpg

After:http://inlinethumb32.webshots.com/42...425x425Q85.jpghttp://inlinethumb11.webshots.com/46...425x425Q85.jpg

clear is as strong as factory in the rear, and the paint matches 99%. I have zero issues with this outcome and it was repainted.


The Rear came out perfect and I am now going to inquire about getting them to cover the front bumper re spray as well.. I deserve it IMO as a brand new car should match to a very reasonaly extent.

Here are the front bumper befores....

I picked my car up on a Sunday, It was painted on day 17 of me owning the car which was this past Tuesday. Im going to go in this Monday about the front bumper because with the rear now repaired, I am so much more satisfied. But now I keep looking at the front bumpers discoloration and it bothers me even more... Most people don't notice it, but a few definatly do.

[URL=http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2742167890101642812PQeYPz]http://inlinethumb61.webshots.com/14...425x425Q85.jpg

Modshack 10-14-2009 05:25 PM

That's because all the plastic parts are painted at another location and at a different time than the body. They all come together at the assembly point. Sometimes the match is good, sometimes not.

Steven 10-14-2009 05:31 PM

hmm i havent noticed any color difference on my PW that i just picked out. i am very picky about those types of things so i would have noticed.

i hope someone can chime in with a answer.

chuckd05 10-14-2009 05:38 PM

i know the paint on the plastics is off sometimes. But i feel as if mine is really really off... Im sure nissan will do something about this.

phelan 10-14-2009 05:43 PM

Probably worth a shot to take it back and see if they'll do something about it. No guarantees though, I doubt it'd be considered a "defect". Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Technik330 10-14-2009 06:07 PM

This is the exact reason why I've been having a hard time choosing between the magnetic black or the pearl white.

I love the Nismo in black, but don't want to have to worry about swirls, everything showing, etc. Yet I'm apprehensive to get a pearl white one, specifically because of this issue.

Try talking to the dealer and seeing what they have to offer, good luck.

Modshack 10-14-2009 06:09 PM

Even with the bad pics, that's a pretty dramatic difference....Maybe the car was Port damaged and repainted....Stuff like this happens all the time. I'd go back and chat with the dealer..

Steven 10-14-2009 06:10 PM

wow, i do see it now in your pics.. geeze that is unacceptable.

i have photographed mine many many times and do not see any color difference.

zero 10-14-2009 06:16 PM

Under certain lighting conditions the bumper and the body are not exactly color matched. I’ve seen the same on the silver. I’m happy with my PW.

chuckd05 10-14-2009 06:44 PM

the lighting definatly has something to do with it ... because in the bright of day it def does not look nearly as dramatic as those pictures... and the darkness of the photos may actually make it look worse, because the rear bumper is def worse than the front bumper and in these pictures the front almost looks worse

SpawnAeroJohn 10-14-2009 07:35 PM

Sometimes they will switch the bumpers with another PW if they have that car there. Thats if you really complain. Like roll on the ground yelling.

bullitt5897 10-14-2009 08:57 PM

Yeah im a lil late but you should def need to go to the dealer and complain. they had this problem on the GTRs ask Sharif at forged performance... he had the same problem himself with his white GTR. The Dealer will replace your bumpers for you ;) if your good you might be able to get them to get you the nismo bumpers :D you may have to offer to pay the difference but that is a price I would sure as heck pay!!!

GL PW Brethren!

simota1 10-14-2009 09:37 PM

yah man complain... lol talk about late...

Solus 10-14-2009 10:01 PM

lou may have some insight on this and whether or not its a "defect"

chuckd05 10-14-2009 10:57 PM

hmm didn't even think of that, its a relatively easy task to swap bumpers, there are several PW's there.


I am going to go in there tomorrow around dusk.. The rear spoiler that was included in my deal should be in soon so hopefully when they install the spoiler they can swap my bumpers... the rear is def off more than I would tolerate..

Thanks for the info though.. Did Sharif end up getting new bumpers ?

kannibul 10-15-2009 09:02 AM

Some colors are just plain hard to match up. I know it sounds odd with white, but, the under-material makes all the difference too.

That said, I have a black Z, and I'm very concerned about swirls and scratches. The more I touch the car, the more they happen. Eventually I'll get a dual action polisher, and hit it with that and get them all out again. Probably not for another year...and allow them to "build up" a bit.

That said, I also keep noticing what appear to be cuts on the front fascia that are from road crap hitting it - can't polish that out, but I can replace the fascia with a repainted new one....which for me will be in about 3-5 years, possibly when I get the whole car touched up and made happy-shiny again.

simota1 10-15-2009 09:15 AM

pearls is also really hard to match because u have to shoot it evenly... u shoot too much it dries a different color...

Caravanshaka 10-15-2009 09:44 AM

I have the same issue, but with my side skirts, not really my bumpers. My bumpers are a TAD off, but not enough to ever notice unless you know it was there. My sideskirts on the other hand, are terribly matched, and I am thinking about having them re-sprayed at the body shop while my car is in for fixing 1/4 of my car from the idiot girl that hit me in a parking lot...

TX_370 10-15-2009 09:46 AM

Exact same thing here. My bumpers are fine, but my side skirts are noticably off.

Zerafian 10-15-2009 10:32 AM

in for pics of your car during the day with clear shots...the time of time and sh*ttiness of the current photos makes me feel its making a difference. It cant be all that bad since you baught the car.

chuckd05 10-15-2009 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zerafian (Post 237816)
in for pics of your car during the day with clear shots...the time of time and sh*ttiness of the current photos makes me feel its making a difference. It cant be all that bad since you baught the car.



Yea
in the bright of day it looks much much better, and yes its not terrible, all though it does look terrible in these pictures, but its certainly a little off.. my side skirts are perfect though, go figure..

chuckd05 10-16-2009 07:33 PM

the more i look the more im going to push to get front and rear sprayed.. i dont see why not, any night time picture shows great differences in the bumper...

g35300mm 11-04-2009 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckd05 (Post 239630)
the more i look the more im going to push to get front and rear sprayed.. i dont see why not, any night time picture shows great differences in the bumper...

wow... so what should i do guys? i want the white but if its one of those roll the dice things? because it doesnt seem like everyone is having this problem. just maybe half the people who buy white.. but how do i know if that will be me or not? i will need to have the car ordered regardless. so how will i know if my cars bumpers and bottom panels will be a good enough match.. i wanted to really get white but looks like i might just settle for grey.

chuckd05 11-05-2009 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g35300mm (Post 267106)
wow... so what should i do guys? i want the white but if its one of those roll the dice things? because it doesnt seem like everyone is having this problem. just maybe half the people who buy white.. but how do i know if that will be me or not? i will need to have the car ordered regardless. so how will i know if my cars bumpers and bottom panels will be a good enough match.. i wanted to really get white but looks like i might just settle for grey.

just look your car offer before you take it, and in my case they are painting the bumpers to match so i am more than happy with the white..

go for white

chuckd05 11-20-2009 11:20 PM

UPDATED THE OG POST. nissan has now agreed to re spray my front bumper as well, so my car will be matched much better than it was from the factory, i will post the after of the front as well, but as you can see from the rear, a good autobody shop CAN match the bumpers...

nissan will fix this issue I am sure with better quality control after they pay out a bunch of times for people like myself who dont accept to live with the colors not matching..

puckshaw 11-23-2009 10:54 AM

Recently got my PW Z and I think my bumpers and side skirts are off as well. It's really noticable in low light situations. In bright daylight, I can't really tell. Is it just the way the light reflects off the different materials or does it actually need to be repainted? I can't tell if I'm being too picky.

OP can you still tell a difference in low light after it was repainted?

ZKindaGuy 11-23-2009 11:12 AM

I have the PW 370Z and its skirt color is off enough to notice with the remainder of the car. Things like this on a car used to upset me but now it seems absolutely irrelevant to life.....

puckshaw 11-23-2009 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 292678)
I have the PW 370Z and its skirt color is off enough to notice with the remainder of the car. Things like this on a car used to upset me but now it seems absolutely irrelevant to life.....

Take your easy going outlook on life and :gtfo2: :mad: This thread is for OCD people only.

Just kidding ;) But it does bother me when I spend this kind of money on a brand new car and the body panels don't even match. I just want to know if it's due to the lighting or a bad paint job.

chuckd05 11-23-2009 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puckshaw (Post 292666)
Recently got my PW Z and I think my bumpers and side skirts are off as well. It's really noticable in low light situations. In bright daylight, I can't really tell. Is it just the way the light reflects off the different materials or does it actually need to be repainted? I can't tell if I'm being too picky.

OP can you still tell a difference in low light after it was repainted?

The difference in color was very drastic in low lit conditions, like parking lots at night or around sunset... Looked horrible IMO... The new paint isnt 100% exact in low lit conditions either but it is about 99% accurate and that because I am OCD.... if i complained now that would be OCD, in the begining its common sense that the car shouldnt be off by that much...

if you have this problem just take it into your dealer and have them take pictures and send them to Nissan. They will do the right thing, they did in my situation...

here is a pic of before and after in a low lit condition

AFTER REPAINT, IN A CONDITION THAT WOULD LOOK WORSE BEFORE THE RESPRAY AS THE COLOR USED TO BE TERRIBLE IN PARKING LOTS AT NIGHT WITH REGULAR LIGHTING
http://www.the370z.com/members/chuck...7-img-0469.jpg

BEFORE RE-SPRAY AROUND 1-2 BEFORE SUNSET, MUCH BETTER CONDITION THAN THE AFTER PICTURE AS FAR AS SHOWING THE DISCOLORATION
http://www.the370z.com/members/chuck...8-img-0330.jpg

ZKindaGuy 11-23-2009 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puckshaw (Post 292706)
Take your easy going outlook on life and :gtfo2: :mad: This thread is for OCD people only.

Just kidding ;) But it does bother me when I spend this kind of money on a brand new car and the body panels don't even match. I just want to know if it's due to the lighting or a bad paint job.

I understand where you are coming from...I just grew tired of finding fault in everything. There wasn't a day that would go by that there wasn't something that wasn't right. It just takes all teh enrgy out of a person.

I think it comes with age..you just get to a point and just start noticing all the good things you have...makes the defects just seem to go away because they aren't the focus anymore....and you aren't getting drained in energy or money anymore.

puckshaw 11-23-2009 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckd05 (Post 292841)
The difference in color was very drastic in low lit conditions, like parking lots at night or around sunset... Looked horrible IMO... The new paint isnt 100% exact in low lit conditions either but it is about 99% accurate and that because I am OCD.... if i complained now that would be OCD, in the begining its common sense that the car shouldnt be off by that much...

if you have this problem just take it into your dealer and have them take pictures and send them to Nissan. They will do the right thing, they did in my situation...

here is a pic of before and after in a low lit condition

AFTER REPAINT, IN A CONDITION THAT WOULD LOOK WORSE BEFORE THE RESPRAY AS THE COLOR USED TO BE TERRIBLE IN PARKING LOTS AT NIGHT WITH REGULAR LIGHTING

BEFORE RE-SPRAY AROUND 1-2 BEFORE SUNSET, MUCH BETTER CONDITION THAN THE AFTER PICTURE AS FAR AS SHOWING THE DISCOLORATION

Thanks, that's what I needed to know ;) I called my dealer about it today. I'm going to bring it in and have them take a look.

KillerBee370 11-24-2009 09:06 AM

haha.. you should see my yellow at night under parking lot lights. Looks like the Partridge family bus. :shakes head:

FuszNissan 11-24-2009 09:16 AM

They are all off, it's hard to get plastic to match alluminum, even though they are the same paint code, there is going to be a hue differene

Caravanshaka 11-24-2009 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 293912)
They are all off, it's hard to get plastic to match alluminum, even though they are the same paint code, there is going to be a hue differene

ya, but some are WAY worse than others...my bumpers are 99% close, my side skirts are like 80% close...

imag 11-24-2009 09:59 AM

I wish they would have offered non-metallic colors. I would have much preferred a straight black to the "magnetic" black. If I had a white car, I would prefer straight white. The only one that really needs the metallic to work is the blue - it really does look great in the sunshine.

Good for Nissan for respraying. I don't blame you; if I had a new car that didn't match, I'd be bummed too, and I'm not that OCD...

NewYorkJon34 09-24-2010 02:31 PM

After installing the evo-r lip, I can def tell more that my front bumper is off colored, u can't really tell during the day, but around dusk it looks pretty bad & is annoying me since I like stuff to be perfect. I'm going to have a talk with nissan about this, lucky for me I know the GM pretty well.

kenchan 09-24-2010 03:13 PM

if they had a solid white i would've went with that too.

USMCASA 09-24-2010 03:45 PM

if it has pearl in the paint or a "flop" adjuster you aren't going to have a 100% match unless the entire car's surface its painted at the same time with the same paint. pearl coats are the hardest to match followed closely by reds and yellows as they fade the quickest.

kenchan 09-24-2010 03:47 PM

^^ wat he said.

simota1 09-24-2010 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USMCASA (Post 735841)
if it has pearl in the paint or a "flop" adjuster you aren't going to have a 100% match unless the entire car's surface its painted at the same time with the same paint. pearl coats are the hardest to match followed closely by reds and yellows as they fade the quickest.

:iagree:


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