CSC and dealership..need some advice.
 

Basically I woke up one morning and my clutch just sunk to the ground.. I had to get to work that day so i just drove it to work. On my way back it pretty much died completely, luckily I got home by then.

I feel like I'm pretty sure that its my CSC.. i looked under the hood and the fluid was completely gone, the clutch pedal is gone, and my gears won't go in.

so my problem and question is with the dealership, the CSC is covered under my warranty but they said it might be my clutch pressure plate and thats not covered, I'm worried that there just trying to scare me because they quoted me a crazy price for the clutch. is it possible that its the clutch or the pressure plate? it doesn't feel like its my clutch, I'm sure its wearing down I'm at 44k original clutch but i really feel like there just trying to get out of doing a free job.

id really appreciate any advice possible...i don't want to get screwed by the dealership :tiphat:

So the dealership just called me and they said its about 3k if its not the csc, if i just have them drop the tranny and inspect the car for the issue its 650$ and if it is the csc its free.... idk what to do.

It's the CSC.

Of course they are going to tell you that you'll need a new pressure plate and disk... they aren't called "stealerships" for nothing. Its definitely the CSC. If the master cylinder were to fail, you would see the fluid leak on the carpet by the pedals.

44k doesn't seem like a lot of miles for a clutch to start dying out. I got 100k out of the factory clutch in my last car before it started to go out. I'd have them fix the CSC and see if that does the trick.

Thanks guys :tiphat:
I had my car towed and felt confident that it was my CSC... till they started quoting me 3k if it wasn't my CSC lol

Pressure plate wouldn't cause the fluid to drain out. The seals in your CSC let go.

It's the CSC bro!!!

Tell them you want to see the clutch, if it got fluid on it because the CSC went out (which it did) they owe you a new clutch too

It's the CSC, if it's not and you have the tranny out, now is the time to up grade it all, aftermarket parts are cheaper then OE, other then the CSC, but you'll never need to change it again.

Best of luck at least they are willing to fix csc under warranty some have not been so lucky.

I was told by the dealer (on my last short-block change... The 3rd.) that I needed a new clutch and pressure plate as well. My car only had 24k miles on it.:shakes head: I laughed at them, and told them to re-install the old one, I'll deal with it when it finally goes. (which will probably be 100k miles from now.)

Just wanted to update everyone, it was in-fact the CSC and it was fully covered by the extended warranty I had purchased when I first bought my Z.. And yet again they tried screwing me by telling me my transmission oil was dirty, my diff oil was dirty, my intake filters were also "dirty" when I just changed my filters and tranny oil. :shakes head: I didn't even take the car, I gave it back to them. My clutch felt off, and the engagement point was just as bad as when the CSC went out. I couldn't even drive it without stalling because of how low the engagement point was. Not sure if the clutch is adjustable? or if they just did some hack job but Im not taking that dam thing till its fixed properly. I think dealerships would have much more business if they weren't such a ripoff...

anyhow, thanks for all the responses :tiphat:

Not sure why the fluid in the trans & diff have anything to do with the failure of the csc? Did they complain about the coolant? :bs:

Now that the leak is gone. Your clutch feel would be different and engagement point would be also because it is actually disengaging the clutch with a good csc.

Notice you are in LA also. Which dealership did you take it to?

Didnt read thread if this involves trying to get your csc replaced at a stealership, pray, call every dealer you can, when **** hits the fan have nna in your speed dial, maybe try to lube a service writers pockets, if all else fails make a youtube video along the lines of "your nissan will try to kill you" get it viral and hope they try for damage correction. Your really screwed and will probably end up paying out the *** and i would either go aftermarket or oem and sell it.

lol so the reason the clutch felt as bad as it did the first time, was because the CSC literally broke again right after they installed it.

hahaha, it's a piece of crap. if you plan on keeping it, get the z1 cscek and have the dealer install it in place of the oem csc.

yeah if it goes out again ill just do that lol.
the part was installed and it broke on their first test drive, so by the time I got the car it was pretty much drained out which is why my clutch pedal felt so shitty. But they replaced it for the second time and it seems good so far :tup:

are you sure they have actually replaced it the first time, not just bled it? there is alot of shady dealer mechanics....

do you mind PM me the dealership you are dealing with so that I would avoid them simply because they are either incompetent or shady in your case.

i wonder where all the fluid goes? surely the clutch disc would be contaminated if the CSC leaked. i raised this issue with the dealer when i had my CSC replaced due to leaking (no visible fluid from outside of bell housing, but i had topped up about 3 reservoir's worth of fluid in a few months). clutch is still strong though, at 62000km

Yeah of course, not a problem!

Just be glad yours didn't end up like my CSC replacement. They replaced everything including the pressure plate, CSC etc. Well I took the car and 5th and 6th were kind of tight going into gear. Took it back they replaced the transmission under warranty (every gear shifted fine until they replaced the CSC) stating the syncro's were going out.

Now I have a new transmission that EVERY gear is tight to get into. They keep telling me that it needs a break in period to loosen up of 500+ miles and that its so tight because of the B&M short throw I have.

So now I have to find the original shifter replace it back to stock and take it back to them AGAIN! So frustrating sometimes.

Either the CSC is not extending enough to disengage the pressure plate from the disk, or there is a problem with the pressure plate. Good luck with everything. And the break in excuse is bs. A clutch should be broken in for the first 500 miles, but everything should shift with ease.

Yeah not surprised on their BS excuses haha. Though everything feels like it is disengaging correctly. Its just feels tight to push into each gear. In gear no movement from car until clutch pedal is at the correct point and that all feels fine. Still seem like pressure plate problem (sorry don't know much on how that works)? Was thinking of switching out to Redline and seeing if helped at all...?

I am really surprise that there are so many issues with replacing the CSC with factory trained mechanics. I have not replaced the CSC/CMC on the Z, but did so with other cars with external CSC. It is a very straight forward job that takes less than an hour and it involves a few bolts and brake line, then bleed the brake system.

The design of the CMC and CSC is very simple. It is just push rods and rubber seals.

As far as tough getting into gears, the clutch may not be completely disengaged or dragging. This can normally be adjusted on the push rod on the CMC. You basically reduce the free play on the clutch pedal so the clutch disc would disengage more when the clutch pedal is fully depressed. You will likely to have a higher engage point also.

Yeah no our concentric slave cylinder is mounted on the input shaft inside the bellhousing where the throwout bearing is on other cars, the whole trans need to be taken down to change it so it is minimum 4hrs with a fast tech

I assume there are major benefits with this 'expensive' design?

it's hella cheap for nissan to make

And this is why I opted for the Z1 external slave cylinder rather than an aftermarket HD CSC. If I ever have problems with the slave itself, no dropping of the transmission required. I did the Z1CSCEK install in my garage on jack stands. Never again lol

how long did it take?

Dude, post the name of the stealership! Why keeping it private info?

Edit: I'd like to know so when my csc goes out, they won't have grounds to lie to my face that they have never had this problem before. Saves us socal guys alot of hassle and time. Please!