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Timmer1978 10-01-2009 11:19 PM

Z1, do you know if any of those diff's you mentioned do not require the side shaft set from Nissan to make it fit? I thought it was easier putting an aftermarket diff in with the non-sports package z's.

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Originally Posted by DDMotorsports (Post 219068)
If you do not have the factory LSD then you will need the side shaft set from Nissan for the factory LSD to make it fit. ...."


travisjb 10-01-2009 11:46 PM

I'm selling my stock sport model LSD if you want to try that... $150 plus ship

http://www.the370z.com/parts-sale-pr...tml#post209154

Z1Performance 10-02-2009 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmer1978 (Post 219662)
Z1, do you know if any of those diff's you mentioned do not require the side shaft set from Nissan to make it fit? I thought it was easier putting an aftermarket diff in with the non-sports package z's.

I have not spent any time yet researching the varients of the 370z units - still learning

B1nks 10-03-2009 08:36 AM

So is it not safe to assume the 350 units are usable on the 370 ? I have been looking at OS Giken and Quaife but they don't have 370 options, only 350.

Z1Performance 10-03-2009 10:57 AM

the Cusco is the same, as for the others, I cannot say at this time

JoeD 10-03-2009 02:34 PM

Appreciate your input, Z1. :tup:

Any thoughts on the Kaaz unit?

import111 10-03-2009 03:18 PM

Kaaz only makes 2 way diffs for the 350/370Z. If you are into drifting that would be good but not for road racing/HPDE type stuff.

travisjb 10-03-2009 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by B1nks (Post 220924)
So is it not safe to assume the 350 units are usable on the 370 ? I have been looking at OS Giken and Quaife but they don't have 370 options, only 350.

pretty sure my carbonetic is same model for 350/370... mike at ddm would know for certain

Valentino 10-03-2009 05:14 PM

OS Giken fits. just installed one. the shop test drove it and no issue. Need to change a shaft (370z SPK comes one long and the other short). Changed the long shaft with a short one, replace some bearing. Nismo diff cover also fits. I'll probably write something about what i installed in my car. After i get it, and test drive it.

Z1Performance 10-03-2009 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 221143)
Appreciate your input, Z1. :tup:

Any thoughts on the Kaaz unit?

they make nice stuff, but I'm not a drift guy, so it's not my choice. It's also quite loud/grabby.

Z1Performance 10-03-2009 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by travisjb (Post 221186)
pretty sure my carbonetic is same model for 350/370... mike at ddm would know for certain

yep carbonetics is too

I suspect the Quaife is as well, but I've learned not to take such things for granted....it will take someone willing to take a chance on it to verify

Valentino - good stuff, glad it worked out! I had spoken to OS the other day and they weren't 100%. Sounds like you had to do just what everyone else does when putting it into a stock VLSD equipped Z, so that makes it easy

For those interested, we have the OS's on the shelf :)

schrute 10-05-2009 08:57 PM

Good info - thanks for all the replies.

I'm leaning toward the Quaife but it would be nice to have confirmation that it will fit before ordering. Has anyone on the forum put this one in a Z34 yet?

Mergnthwirker 10-07-2009 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Z1Performance (Post 218972)
to the OP

there is another thread that goes through the differences

The Carbonetics is a nice unit. Some (350Z's) have experienced issues with premature disk wearing, even using Carbonetics own fluid. I personally have never experienced it. The Carbon units they offer are not adjustable, so it does not allow for any customization now or down the road. That may or may not be an issue for you. They also require frequent fluid changes (every 3-5k miles) because the carbon dust from the disks contaminates the fluid. They are very smooth however and work well. You also are stuck using their fluid, so if you get it, stock up. We stock the diffs and the fluid BTW

Cusco - I've run one in my car since 2004 (I think...might be 2005!). It's a clutch type diff as well. It is adjustable from 1.5 to 2 way (2 way is for drift) and has 3 way adjustable lockup as well. With the right fluid, and the right setup (which IMHO is 60% lock, 1.5 way) it is nearly seemless. Mine makes zero noise. At a literal crawl at parking lot speeds you can slightly feel the inside wheel grabbing a touch...but you literally have to be crawling. At 5 mph, it's not present at all, for example. No special break in (no figure 8's needed!) and can use off the shelf fluid. Downside is there is a wait time for them (45-60 days at present). They are reasonably priced.

OS Giken - another clutch type diff, but has a bit of a different design. They are adjustable from OS Giken via diferent springs. Extremely careful tolerances means it is quiet and smooth. I've used them several times now on the 350Z's and they are unlike any clutch type LSD I've ever used. Higher cost vs the Cusco by a few bucks, but it's a drop in for base model cars on a 350Z (I'd have to check on the 370 base models).

Quiafe - top notch firm from the UK that has made diffs since forever. Theirs is a helical (gear) based unit. It is not adjustable at all, but it is literally so quiet and smooth, Nissan could have installed it from the factory and you would never thing it was aftermarket. A great street oriented unit. Works well for club type track days also, but not what I'd use on a full out race car.

Drexler - amazing unit but very spendy. Used by several high end OEM manufacturers, and many race teams worldwide

You can compare prices, specs, etc on our site if you like

Z-1 Performance Automotive Services Inc.

Given your conditions and needs/wants, I would select the OS Giken if this were my own car. My second choice would be Quaife.

This post is extremely helpful!! Plus +1 for you, sir!:tiphat:

travisjb 10-07-2009 05:56 PM

It is a great, informative post... but one thing i disagree with is that you have to run carbonetics gear oil on their diff. That is just a ploy to sell their overpriced gear oil. We're running motul of the same viscosity and works great. I've talked to a number of folks in the know that think this is fine.

Z1Performance 10-08-2009 04:17 PM

That may well be - but I know when we have asked them, as well as the former importer of them, both said that only a couple of fluids were deemed "ok" by the factory - one was their own, the other was by Neo and I don't think was even offered in the US. I even had asked about Motul, since we use it alot, and was told "we don't know". Doesn't mean other stuff can't be used, just what they told me. Their new fluid is reasonably priced ($50 for a gallon, I always have it on the shelf, as well as Motul and OS Giken's fluids) it's just the short change intervals with the carbon based diffs that stinks


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