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jwick 06-24-2014 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2872205)
Wrong, wrong, wrong on so many levels. All lubes, synthetic or not, break down with use. And even if they didn't break down, the essential additives do. Then there is the stuff that even the best filters can't remove.

Well he might be kind of right. There is one machine I have ran synthetic in for it's entire life without changing....

MY LAWNMOWER:roflpuke2::tiphat:

wsarver 06-24-2014 10:58 AM

I wouldn't even think of running synthetic in my mower lol. It's just a mower :-P

Fountainhead 06-24-2014 12:04 PM

Hey, besides, I like touching my car! Changing the oil every 3750, I know all about that, (it's not your grandpa's oil anymore) blah, blah, blah, but hey, if I wanted to be prudent and penny pinching I would have bought a CRZ hybrid thing and ran 0W-20 synth.

jwick 06-24-2014 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wsarver (Post 2872235)
I wouldn't even think of running synthetic in my mower lol. It's just a mower :-P

Yeah...I did it mainly as a joke. I had a spare bottle or RP on the shelf and figured it had to be better than the crap they included in the box. Sold that mower to my brother several years back. Still runs perfectly.

chii370 06-24-2014 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 2871900)
Quit spreading your filth around here. I ran RP for all 140k miles on my IS300. Changed it every 5k. It never was as clean as when it went in. Went in purple came out looking like every other syn I've ever drained from a car.

OP you are better off ignoring anything Chii posts:tiphat:

no reason to get hostile because you disagree. Would appreciate you not badmouthing me. just saiyan. If you wanna bad mouth, come on out to manassas park VA I would be happy to teach you some manners free of charge "except your inevitable hospital bill".

Bitch comments from others aside, it seems I was wrong. oh noes, end of the world. oh wait, how about I just admit to it and we move on. No need to be childish cunts about it. defense justified.

falconfixer 06-24-2014 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chii370 (Post 2872723)
no reason to get hostile because you disagree. Would appreciate you not badmouthing me. just saiyan. If you wanna bad mouth, come on out to manassas park VA I would be happy to teach you some manners free of charge "except your inevitable hospital bill".

Bitch comments from others aside, it seems I was wrong. oh noes, end of the world. oh wait, how about I just admit to it and we move on. No need to be childish cunts about it. defense justified.

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Plasmite 06-24-2014 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by falconfixer (Post 2872731)
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fairlady_z34 06-25-2014 12:44 AM

so is it better to run mineral or synthetic? isnt it better just to follow the instructions of the owners manual?

mike444 06-25-2014 12:52 AM

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uhhh... guys lol?

fairlady_z34 06-25-2014 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by exsanity (Post 2871842)
As a matter of fact I don't believe you.

I have done many a Google search on Synthetic vs Mineral oils and how synthetic oil works. The fact is, the fundamental difference between synthetic oil and mineral oil is synthetic oil is manufactured chemically and mineral oil is natural, obviously right? But what that means is the individual molecules of oil in synthetic oil are all the exact same size due to the manufacturing process, nothing in nature is ever exactly the same.
http://www.kewengineering.co.uk/Auto...ineral_oil.jpg

This allows the synthetic oil to break down evenly where mineral oil has varying molecule sizes that cause the oil to become thicker the longer it is used.

Sources:
How Stuff Works: Synthetic vs. Conventional Motor Oil
Synthetic oil technology


i thought mineral oil is just distillation from crude oil which means that its thicker than synthetic? wouldnt you want thinner oil especially cuz our car gets hot?

exsanity 06-25-2014 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by fairlady_z34 (Post 2873368)
so is it better to run mineral or synthetic? isnt it better just to follow the instructions of the owners manual?

From what I've read, and this is just my opinion, it seems like synthetic is the way to go, the only disadvantage is the cost increase.

exsanity 06-25-2014 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by fairlady_z34 (Post 2873377)
i thought mineral oil is just distillation from crude oil which means that its thicker than synthetic? wouldnt you want thinner oil especially cuz our car gets hot?

It's thicker than synthetic because of the varying size of molecules. Synthetic is engineered to coat engine parts, so the viscosity doesn't change throughout the life of the oil.

fairlady_z34 06-25-2014 01:01 AM

thank you very much exsanity... synthetic is what i use, just wanted you guys to clarify

mike444 06-25-2014 01:11 AM

So, not trying to turn this into a synth vs. conventional here..theres plenty of that already.

Let me start off by giving facts about my car and where I live and my driving style:

- I live in south fl, so its hot/humid virtually year round
- Manual 09 Z
- Drive like a granny(not an understatement lol)
- No tracking or racing(if you do thats cool)
-Sport pkg

So, from what I read, looks like I might experience some leaks but only for the first change because its "cleaning" the gunk out.. w.e that means. I just don't want the car to take a step backwards by switching I understand it better for the car but the whole point of the thread was to see if you guys have any input on if its a step forward by changing now at 66k. Anyone dare to give a straight answer?

Also as for the tranny fluid, I have also read and been told "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" I have never changed the tranny oil as mentioned above, I find the shifting normal but maybe I'm just a dummy lol what are some symptoms of our Z's screaming "I need a tranny oil change please!"? Same question refers to the VLSD.

As for brake pads I ordered: "Wearever Platinum Premium Ceramic Pads", if theres any reason I should return it and get something else by all means let me know.

mike444 06-25-2014 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 2870197)
I went from dino oil to synthetic after about 75k in my SC300. Car never leaked until I made this change. Synthetics tend to clean up sludge in your engine. When this happened in my SC300 it created a leak at the main seal. From an engine standpoint I see no issues with it but I will never switch to synthetics in any car I own based on my experiences with it creating a leak.

This! Anyone think this could be a consistent problem in a Z with 66K?


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