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Roddy1 06-02-2014 11:05 AM

Performance charactertics of the 370z... 3rd gear
 
Hey guys,

I'm noticing that the car really hauls *** through 1st and 2nd gear, but when getting into 3rd there is a bit of a loss in how much the car is pulling.

Just curious what you guys think, or if you notice the same thing. And what you guys might have noticed improved this etc. I'm aware that every bolt on in the book and a tune would help to eliminate this, but also wondering if just something like the HFC's I have been considering would be the solution. It just feels a touch out of its powerband for a moment when getting into 3rd.

I'm talking about full throttle 7500rpm shift from 2nd to 3rd here and winding out 3rd.

7419sundat 06-02-2014 01:08 PM

Install a turbo it'll pull hard in 3rd then!

fuct 06-02-2014 01:30 PM

odd, gears 3 and 4 are my favorite!

wstar 06-02-2014 01:46 PM

You lose torque and gain wind resistance every time you upshift, just the facts of life.

Bauran 06-02-2014 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 2843662)
You lose torque and gain wind resistance every time you upshift, just the facts of life.

lol, the hell you say

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 2843640)
odd, gears 3 and 4 are my favorite!

I have the most fun in 2 - 3.

I don't know if it's just perceived difference but swapping in lightweight pulleys seemed to make me spin up faster in every gear, may help?

MasterD 06-02-2014 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 2843640)
odd, gears 3 and 4 are my favorite!

Ditto.

Though I really need to do something about 1st and 2nd gear! :confused:

fuct 06-02-2014 02:51 PM

f' first gear! not sure why our cars even have one......

1slow370 06-02-2014 03:16 PM

2-3 for me are my favorites, that and when i went on a cruise with a bunch 300zx's through missouri 6th was my favorite because i could power up hills when they had to be in 4th. haha

Roddy1 06-02-2014 03:44 PM

I have raced a few guys which are serious contenders... Maybe I am cutting a wicked reaction and 60 foot time, but I am leaving them behind or holding them of nicely in 1-2 then in 3rd i'm feeling them catch up or have the potential to go past me. All have been Higher power cars than mine, two are boosted heavily (RX7, and a GTR syline) one is LSX powered (05 C6 vert auto - stock) for reference... so maybe not much chance there..... but thats what I'm noticing.

This was of course all done on a closed course in Mexico.

7speed 06-02-2014 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Roddy1 (Post 2843771)
I have raced a few guys which are serious contenders... Maybe I am cutting a wicked reaction and 60 foot time, but I am leaving them behind or holding them of nicely in 1-2 then in 3rd i'm feeling them catch up or have the potential to go past me. All have been Higher power cars than mine, two are boosted heavily (RX7, and a GTR syline) one is LSX powered (05 C6 vert auto - stock) for reference... so maybe not much chance there..... but thats what I'm noticing.

This was of course all done on a closed course in Mexico.

Seems like this is where there powerband is coming alive or they suck at launching (or gaining traction).

But you said it they are more high power cars, so what do you expect.

P.S.....all that land you would think Canada has closed courses.

1slow370 06-02-2014 04:53 PM

I once raced an 05 gto on a closed course in mexico and he had a car on me at 130, he was auto so its not like he could screw that up after three runs.

TheBoomSpoon 06-02-2014 05:56 PM

The z is super competitive with just about anything up to 60 mph if not faster. To run against higher hp past 60 you need more power. Do a rolling start at 60 vs those and im sure you'll feel even slower.

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L33T Z34 06-05-2014 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 2843725)
f' first gear! not sure why our cars even have one......

W00T? :confused:
1st GEAR gets this car move'n. I've got single mass flywheel and 4.30 gears and can still shift to 2nd easily. Not for sure where this 1st gear is useless $h!+ is coming from. Maybe if your a 70+ old man that has slowed in his years and can't re-act to the tach.....LOL!:D
Third gear ain't bad w/gears. Of coarse w/400+ crank horsies it would be better...;)

phunk 06-05-2014 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Roddy1 (Post 2843771)
I have raced a few guys which are serious contenders... Maybe I am cutting a wicked reaction and 60 foot time, but I am leaving them behind or holding them of nicely in 1-2 then in 3rd i'm feeling them catch up or have the potential to go past me. All have been Higher power cars than mine, two are boosted heavily (RX7, and a GTR syline) one is LSX powered (05 C6 vert auto - stock) for reference... so maybe not much chance there..... but thats what I'm noticing.

This was of course all done on a closed course in Mexico.

Higher power cars are exponentially harder to drive and get through the low gears. 9 times out of 10, a bolt on 370z could probably take me in first, and possibly still be ahead through second if I am doing real bad. When 3rd gear comes, I wont know if they slammed on the brakes or kept racing cause ill put it behind me so fast it doesnt make a difference. When I race lightly modified cars, I usually only give it enough gas to just stay next to my victim until 3rd gear then I give it a go.

But yup due to the torque multiplication of gearing, the amount of power you are sending to the wheels in 3rd gear is far far lower than second gear. The tires can only contain so much... so in the lower gears, high power cars cannot use all the extra power.

6spd 06-06-2014 10:36 AM

Coming from a modded '13 WRX, I can honestly say these Z's feel like dogs in 1 and 2 compared to the WRX from a standstill, rolling is a different story. BUT... where those die in the high rpms of 1 and 2, 3rd especially, the Z just keeps on pumping.


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