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Chuck33079 05-30-2014 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Navyboy916 (Post 2840917)
You can run up to 12:5:1 on pumped gas that's the compression of the fr-s and brz boxer motor. You don't have to run e85 or even 100 octane


Those are direct injection, so it's not quite apples to apples. They can get away with higher compression and leaner afrs.

Navyboy916 05-30-2014 06:03 PM

Here is the video when I road in the JUN z34 last year when I visited JUN headquarters. The car has the same cams and compression setup and mind you is untuned. Listen to when the driver steps on it. The pulled hard and idled normal. Again it's untuned this is what you car should sound like.
Fairladyz ride along from JUN AUTO - YouTube

1slow370 05-30-2014 06:05 PM

if the civic guys and SBC's can run 12:1 on 91 and 93 im sure our motor can too. Being that it was tuned in germany they most likely used 98 or 100 ron fuel. Also we have better tuners for the vq here as well, i would bet the vvel on that car was untuned.

brucelidat 05-31-2014 08:05 PM

If cams pistons and rods could really get us to 350+whp on 91 pump gas, it'd be pretty tempting depending on the costs.

brucelidat 06-01-2014 02:16 AM

So to recap from those who know, to install the cams correctly, you would need rods and pistons as well? Anything else? Does anyone have links to the pistons and rods that would go with the cams? Just curious as to cost.

elia_ebyss 06-01-2014 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 2842205)
So to recap from those who know, to install the cams correctly, you would need rods and pistons as well? Anything else? Does anyone have links to the pistons and rods that would go with the cams? Just curious as to cost.

CTD-GERMANY have what u ask 👍 or go with jun they have stroker kit and cam

elia_ebyss 06-01-2014 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 2842036)
If cams pistons and rods could really get us to 350+whp on 91 pump gas, it'd be pretty tempting depending on the costs.

Im using 93 octane and 5w30 red line oil with mods and cam i hit 361.4 whp before tune and now with tune have 378.6 whp. Yestrday night

My proplem solve with vvel rest

Thank you navyboy918 and cdoxb800

mikey1600 06-01-2014 07:48 AM

that's great! you are still running all standard gear?

do you have dyno results of before and after you can post up please? would love to see the tuned dyno graph.

Eclipz 06-01-2014 08:59 AM

If the dyno is legit he is the new NA king. Sorry mike the powdercoater :O

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6MT-Z34 06-01-2014 09:12 AM

Also, I'm pretty sure more ppl will go that route if the price is right for all the parts

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Eclipz 06-01-2014 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by elia_ebyss (Post 2842419)
CTD-GERMANY have what u ask or go with jun they have stroker kit and cam

Ive been on the jun website before and all they have for sale for the 370z is the cams and a bigger throttle body. I think their stroker kit is a prototype and not for sale yet

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ZKraken22 06-01-2014 09:59 AM

Even if he is at 378 we still don't have a baseline. Alot of information not on the table.

xxAGAVExx 06-01-2014 10:33 AM

Great job! Glad the vvel reset got you back in track.


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6MT-Z34 06-01-2014 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ZKraken22 (Post 2842537)
Even if he is at 378 we still don't have a baseline. Alot of information not on the table.

A baseline is good to see by how much those mods increase power but at then end if he's pushing 378 those are great results

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DEpointfive0 06-01-2014 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 2842036)
If cams pistons and rods could really get us to 350+whp on 91 pump gas, it'd be pretty tempting depending on the costs.

You gotta be the stateside beta tester for this bro.
I missed my chance while my engine was out because there was no evidence or reasoning as to this mod working. But time to man up! :p

brucelidat 06-01-2014 11:04 AM

Elia, what were your trq numbers? Can you post your dyno sheet?

brucelidat 06-01-2014 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2842571)
You gotta be the stateside beta tester for this bro.
I missed my chance while my engine was out because there was no evidence or reasoning as to this mod working. But time to man up! :p

Maybe, trying to figure out hat I would need and how much actual cost would be.

Although navyboy is the real beta, he's just not done yet.

Navyboy916 06-01-2014 11:33 AM

No problem glad you were able to get it corrected.

brucelidat 06-01-2014 11:43 AM

Jun themselves only claim 15-20whp gains from the cams which is why anything more than that is hard to believe without other supporting mods. We all know manufacturers usually post optimistic gains. That's a big thing holding me back from trying the cams unless there are some supporting mods that make some of these high numbers easier to have confidence in.

Navyboy916 06-01-2014 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 2842609)
Jun themselves only claim 15-20whp gains from the cams which is why anything more than that is hard to believe without other supporting mods. We all know manufacturers usually post optimistic gains. That's a big thing holding me back from trying the cams unless there are some supporting mods that make some of these high numbers easier to have confidence in.

Thats 15-20 hp with no other mods. When I visited JUN they said that the cams were made to be used with stock everything even stock air boxes. To me that's pretty good

1slow370 06-01-2014 12:52 PM

well i've got do my headgaskets how much are these lol, you don't need pistons and rods unless the cams hit the pistons which these don't you need cams, and when they are being put in you need to have them shimmed with different thickness lifters from nissan to reset the clearance to the cam, and tuned.

Navyboy916 06-01-2014 01:10 PM

Lol don't need a tune. Is made to run on stock program. Again glad to hear your VVEL reset did the trick.

brucelidat 06-01-2014 02:15 PM

When a manufacturer says 15-20, you're probably looking at more like 10-15. At probably 2.5k including labor, that's tough to justify. Is there anything else that can be done for gains while in there to make it more worthwhile overall? This is a general question out there too all you guys who know a lot more than I do (which isn't very much).

DEpointfive0 06-01-2014 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 2842740)
When a manufacturer says 15-20, you're probably looking at more like 10-15. At probably 2.5k including labor, that's tough to justify. Is there anything else that can be done for gains while in there to make it more worthwhile overall? This is a general question out there too all you guys who know a lot more than I do (which isn't very much).

Well, Jun's dyno was a joke. It was on a 3.7 vs 3.8 or something and 91 vs 100 octane

brucelidat 06-01-2014 02:21 PM

yeah, I don't trust it or the German one either. Too much unknown info which is why I am just going by the real world estimates (manufacturer advertised numbers minus 5). 2. for 10-15who is a tough pill to swallow which is why I am asking more knowledgeable forum members if there's anything to do while in there to make the overall package more enticing, like maybe 25whp gian for 3k or close to that.

elia_ebyss 06-01-2014 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 2842573)
Elia, what were your trq numbers? Can you post your dyno sheet?

Sorry sir In my country is hard to get dyno sheet without paid 70 dollar = 20 KD in my country . only get result from dyno screen

The trq is hard to get high without F.I and my result is only 279.4 and after 293

The change is big on street mybe later i show u a race vs muscle car to aproved

My new mode is : OBX LTH , ARK CBE , aem long tube air filter , 320 lph fuel , M370 manifold , universal oil cooler , stillen pulley , spec ss twin clutch W flywheel , jun cams and thermestat .. And 93 octene with 5w30 red line oil

brucelidat 06-01-2014 04:21 PM

290 is great for NA trq. We're not expecting boosted trq numbers.

elia_ebyss 06-01-2014 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 2842573)
Elia, what were your trq numbers? Can you post your dyno sheet?

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Originally Posted by Navyboy916 (Post 2842679)
Lol don't need a tune. Is made to run on stock program. Again glad to hear your VVEL reset did the trick.

You a man 😂👍

And thank u again , and dont try it beacuse the money will gone like a train , i wasted 3k with cams , 1.5k for install and 800 for cam sensor

5.2k + 1k = twin turbo

Thats make me cry to make only 30 whp 25 trq

ZKraken22 06-01-2014 06:49 PM

This is a interesting thread. You even used Obx LTH. Do you have any videos? Idle change at all?

brucelidat 06-01-2014 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by elia_ebyss (Post 2842857)
You a man 😂👍

And thank u again , and dont try it beacuse the money will gone like a train , i wasted 3k with cams , 1.5k for install and 800 for cam sensor

5.2k + 1k = twin turbo

Thats make me cry to make only 30 whp 25 trq

only 30 and 25? Are you saying your baseline before the cams/tune was 348whp?

brucelidat 06-01-2014 07:53 PM

Also, 6.2k is nowhere near enough for twin turbo. with labor and supporting mods, TT done right will be more like 15k if not more.

Elmo370z 06-02-2014 12:48 PM

The Cam cost you $3,000?

brucelidat 06-02-2014 01:25 PM

I've priced out cams plus install at about $2500 over here. Super labor intensive.

fuct 06-02-2014 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by elia_ebyss (Post 2842852)
Sorry sir In my country is hard to get dyno sheet without paid 70 dollar = 20 KD in my country . only get result from dyno screen

The trq is hard to get high without F.I and my result is only 279.4 and after 293

The change is big on street mybe later i show u a race vs muscle car to aproved

My new mode is : OBX LTH , ARK CBE , aem long tube air filter , 320 lph fuel , M370 manifold , universal oil cooler , stillen pulley , spec ss twin clutch W flywheel , jun cams and thermestat .. And 93 octene with 5w30 red line oil

damn! $70 for someone to hit "print"? thats nuts:nutswinger:

elia_ebyss 06-03-2014 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 2843600)
The Cam cost you $3,000?

Yes its cost 3k and dollar

Im order it from jun japan and our country gets funds from customs ,, the life is hard here 😐

Iam from middle east not from eur or us

elia_ebyss 06-03-2014 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 2843023)
Also, 6.2k is nowhere near enough for twin turbo. with labor and supporting mods, TT done right will be more like 15k if not more.

I agree with u

But from emirate u can get orginal power house amuse only for 3.8k with spoiler

The proplem is in emirate or bahrin or oman is hard to get cam or pistons

brucelidat 06-03-2014 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by elia_ebyss (Post 2844280)
yes its cost 3k and dollar

im order it from jun japan and our country gets funds from customs ,, the life is hard here 😐

iam from middle east not from eur or us

ouch!

calendap 06-03-2014 10:11 AM

Its pretty cool to see someone finnaly post some numbers with jun cams, I'm a real big fan of n/a power 370ish whp is pretty impressive an it seems like the car is still real streetable. An I'm sure the car feels/is real snapy with the high comp pistons. can't wait to see a video of your car, props man

Elmo370z 06-03-2014 12:30 PM

Holy ****.

brucelidat 06-03-2014 12:49 PM

I would totally do this if the gains were really 30whp and 25trq, but Jun only advertised 15-20.


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