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Eagle 03-21-2014 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 2747583)
Ummm...no. TCM won't allow you to over-rev the engine.

It's not any more wrong to downshift a 7AT than it is to downshift a 6MT. But, generally speaking, I wouldn't downshift a 7AT to first (just like, generally speaking, I wouldn't downshift any MT into first) while the car is moving. Not to mention that the 7AT does a pretty good job of deciding on its own when to downshift.

This is absolutely correct. Engine no go boom if you try to down shift to too low of a gear.

The car does beep at you quite a bit though

maro 03-21-2014 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by VRSean (Post 2747607)
Well that really escalated in a hurry. Yes, @NickTurnon I have had the same lag issues with my 7AT. It seems to spike out of no where sometimes in the lower gears as well. Really hard to tell when its going to happen

same issue here too ,, lags way too much at high temp especially

NickTurnon 03-21-2014 10:44 PM

Glad I am not the only one..

Why are the three people having this issue with 7AT's in Phoenix? LOL

Sean, how are your fluid levels.

Also, thanks Ghost... I appreciate your reply.
Unknowns: mileage on the car (81k) , transmission fluid level (??), fluid and filter condition (recently serviced) (Yes, Serviced 500 miles ago), does the OP get an audible 'clunk' or noise when it goes into gear. Yes, Sometimes it lags and then revs so much that the tires spin out from under me while trying to go forward haha.) Does the problem occur in D or only in 1st. (I want to say it happens in both, but maybe I am more aware of it in sport mode because I use that often to get over speed bumps and other high inclined exits. But maybe the others can chime in..

critical 03-21-2014 11:21 PM

you put it in manual mode to go over speed bumps? you're doing it wrong. anything in a parking lot should be in D

Elan 03-23-2014 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by osbornsm (Post 2746789)
Are you serious or kidding? Can't tell sarcasm over text.

It's almost the worst thing you can do to a transmission, even with a double clutch. Just use 2nd.

Really? Interesting. They should just take 1st gear out of the tranny then.

I'm not talking about full redline downshift. Like it was mentioned before, going over a speedbump at say 10 mph. :rofl2:

Got_Z 03-24-2014 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ElVee (Post 2747160)
It's not really an angry thing. You should just never actually downshift into first. You should let the car do it for you.

Besides not being good for the car (use the brakes, they're cheaper to wear out):

1- It's not very nice to the guy behind you that doesn't see any brake lights. (This is why engine braking is prohibited in some areas). The last thing you want is to get rear-ended and have the other person be able to claim they didn't even know you were braking. This is not a defense, ultimately, but it might convince someone to make you share responsibility.

2- It's a very, very, very bad habit to develop. Our Z has judicious protection from trying to drop down into first too early (this might be what you're experiencing, even), but not every car has this. You'll potentially get whiplash in some other cars if you get used to dropping to first while moving.


The intention of first gear is to get the car moving from a stop. After that, it should see no further use.

(Yes, I'm in first when I go over speed bumps, but only because I'm not going up to speed to move to second yet. That's probably about the only time you should drop down, if you're just barely rolling already. I admit, I do it on speed bumps at work since they're next to a building that bounces back the rev. And I almost always downshift early to 3rd or even 2nd when stopping, just to hear it.)


This OP. This. So much this.


-M-

luigi90210 03-24-2014 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by critical (Post 2748055)
you put it in manual mode to go over speed bumps? you're doing it wrong. anything in a parking lot should be in D

THIS or anything in general that isnt "spirited" driving, i dont see a reason to buy an auto only to shift it manually all the time

VRSean 03-24-2014 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NickTurnon (Post 2748006)
Glad I am not the only one..

Why are the three people having this issue with 7AT's in Phoenix? LOL

Sean, how are your fluid levels.

Also, thanks Ghost... I appreciate your reply.
Unknowns: mileage on the car (81k) , transmission fluid level (??), fluid and filter condition (recently serviced) (Yes, Serviced 500 miles ago), does the OP get an audible 'clunk' or noise when it goes into gear. Yes, Sometimes it lags and then revs so much that the tires spin out from under me while trying to go forward haha.) Does the problem occur in D or only in 1st. (I want to say it happens in both, but maybe I am more aware of it in sport mode because I use that often to get over speed bumps and other high inclined exits. But maybe the others can chime in..

My fluid levels are fine and my mileage is only at 23k. I've seen more issues in the early morning when the trans is cold than hot. At the same time I've put 6k on the car in the last year I've had it so it rarely gets hot. There is a pretty solid clunk sometimes when the car is in manual and the car downshifts itself into first, but I'm sure its a diff mount or something like that.

FPenvy 03-24-2014 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chops (Post 2746339)
are you downshifting into 1st? you shouldnt be doing that even in with a 6MT

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Originally Posted by Elan (Post 2746357)
What's wrong with downshifting into 1st? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 2746375)
Hmmm... torque converter maybe trying to catch up??:confused:

nooooooo downshifting into first. thats a big dont.

i accidentally downshifted into 1st on a up hill stop and put my tranny into limp mode. thought i was one gear higher and didnt look down when downshifting. seriously thought i blew out my tranny.

also saw people saying change fluid. also a dont on the 7at from what i understand.

Haboob 03-24-2014 07:53 PM

Holy **** guys, he's not downshifting into first in a manner that's going to even rev. the engine. Get passed that already.

And it's perfectly okay to not leave it in auto when going through parking lots. Just because you do it doesn't mean it's the "correct way", unless you can put up some stats or documents proving it.


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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2751523)
THIS or anything in general that isnt "spirited" driving, i dont see a reason to buy an auto only to shift it manually all the time

Well, maybe there isn't a manual option for the vehicle?

Maybe the person (in general) cannot drive manual (doesn't know how or otherwise)?

Maybe the person doesn't want a manual?

Plenty of reasons...

TheBoomSpoon 04-08-2014 10:50 PM

Parking lots? Amazon requires no braking or downshifting.

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