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Rusty 08-17-2013 06:51 PM

Help, the Z won't start
 
Ok, drove about 4hrs to Ocean City Md. today. The Z ran great. Pulled into the camp ground where my camper is at. Shut the Z off. Set up the camper. Started the Z up to move it, and shut it off with no problems. Go to restart the Z about 15 minutes later. The engine cranks over, tries to start, spudders and dies. Check for codes with UpRev. No codes. Thinking it may be vapor locked, now thinking the fuel pump has died. When I pulled into the camp ground. The gas gauge was showing 3 dots. got the camper next to me to run me to the gas station. Got another 4 gallons of gas to put into the gas. Had 6 dots showing. Tried starting it. Same thing. Left the Z sit for 2 hrs. Tried starting it. It does even spudder now. and the gas gauge shows no dots. Help!

DEpointfive0 08-17-2013 07:43 PM

Doesn't sound like it, but just to check our bases, steering lock?

Rusty 08-17-2013 08:18 PM

No. After hitting the start button. It would try and start. The engine would fire and stumble for awhile, then die.

Super Werty 08-17-2013 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2450729)
No. After hitting the start button. It would try and start. The engine would fire and stumble for awhile, then die.

somebody stick something in your exhaust? go look

roy'sz 08-17-2013 11:20 PM

Bad fuel sender? Here is a tip push ignition twice....if you dont hear the whine of the pumps....then there is your prob.

Rusty 08-18-2013 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by roy'sz (Post 2450885)
Bad fuel sender? Here is a tip push ignition twice....if you dont hear the whine of the pumps....then there is your prob.

I got phunk's race kit for fuel staruvion. I can hear hear phunk's fuel pump prime, but I never could hear the stock fuel pump prime even when I was stock.

roy'sz 08-18-2013 09:13 AM

When I change maps from anti-theft to my tune setting I hear it prime everytime. what does the voltage read on your car? Maybe the battery is goin?

roy'sz 08-18-2013 09:15 AM

I just re read and saw that there is no dots after your had 6. If your not smelling gas then I wonder where it went.

DEpointfive0 08-18-2013 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by roy'sz (Post 2450885)
Bad fuel sender? Here is a tip push ignition twice....if you dont hear the whine of the pumps....then there is your prob.

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2451080)
I got phunk's race kit for fuel staruvion. I can hear hear phunk's fuel pump prime, but I never could hear the stock fuel pump prime even when I was stock.

If you tell someone to turn it to the on position you can put your ear to the fuel filler and hear it

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Originally Posted by roy'sz (Post 2451093)
I just re read and saw that there is no dots after your had 6. If your not smelling gas then I wonder where it went.

I guess? If he poured gas in and didn't notice it on the floor... Then we have a totally different issue

roy'sz 08-18-2013 12:06 PM

Yeah im scratching my head on this one

DEpointfive0 08-18-2013 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by roy'sz (Post 2451249)
Yeah im scratching my head on this one

Makes 2 of us, lol

SouthArk370Z 08-18-2013 12:19 PM

It appears that the fuel level sensor and the fuel pump are both acting up. Double check the pump and sensor wiring, starting at the pump/sensor and working your way toward the front of the car. Could be a bad pump/sensor - check pressure at the engine fuel rail.

DIGItonium 08-18-2013 01:04 PM

It happens to me as well at least once a week. It'll rev to idle, then drop down to 0 and die. Press down on the gas pedal a bit as it revs up on start.

roy'sz 08-18-2013 01:19 PM

Maybe fuel filter?

DEpointfive0 08-18-2013 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 2451312)
It happens to me as well at least once a week. It'll rev to idle, then drop down to 0 and die. Press down on the gas pedal a bit as it revs up on start.

ONCE A WEEK?!?!?! What the f is wrong with your car?

Rusty 08-18-2013 03:14 PM

I'm at a campground with limited tools on hand. :( I put another 4 gallons of gas in it. Now the fuel gauge shows 1 dot above 1/2 tank. I got the covers off of the fuel tank on the right side. I can hear phunk's fuel pump prime, but the stock fuel pump is quite. My thinking is that the stock fuel pump went roses up. :mad: Tomorrow, I,m renting a U-haul truck and trailer to get the Z home on Tuesday. Then I will have all of my tools to use.

roy'sz 08-18-2013 03:18 PM

Sounds like Low fuel pressure. Call nissan1, if you have extended warranty they help with towing.

DIGItonium 08-18-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2451336)
ONCE A WEEK?!?!?! What the f is wrong with your car?

No clue. Maybe it needs a dyno tune since it's still running the out of box tune from Sam@GTM. I sent them my datalogs a year ago, and I never heard anything since. Been doing this for over a year. No codes. I'm thinking it's too rich or something.

Wonka2581 08-18-2013 03:44 PM

In to see what the problem was... Good luck

Rusty 08-19-2013 10:25 PM

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Made it home. The wife told one of her friends, "Poor Nismo. It got an upset fuel pump. It no worky." At least she can put some humor into it. Now the work beginning. When I find out what's wrong. I'll up date this thread. ;)

DEpointfive0 08-19-2013 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2453150)
Made it home. The wife told one of her friends, "Poor Nismo. It got an upset fuel pump. It no worky." At least she can put some humor into it. Now the work beginning. When I find out what's wrong. I'll up date this thread. ;)

Sorry, but at least you can fix it, and you're safe!

olddudesrule 08-23-2013 03:47 PM

Any resolution, Rusty??

Rusty 08-23-2013 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by olddudesrule (Post 2458691)
Any resolution, Rusty??

Not yet. Working 12hr nightshifts don't leave much time for anything. My next days off are Monday and Tuesday. So that's when I plan on digging into it. ;) phunk gave me some directions in which to go in. :tiphat:

megalapagas 08-23-2013 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 2451312)
It happens to me as well at least once a week. It'll rev to idle, then drop down to 0 and die. Press down on the gas pedal a bit as it revs up on start.

Really?? Man I thought I was the only one? 0.o hmm maybe I need a tune haha :D

megalapagas 08-23-2013 06:35 PM

Good thing u found the problem and gonna work on it soon OP Good Luck Mate!

Rusty 09-05-2013 07:17 PM

Up-date. Got it fixed. :tup: Self-inflicted problem. :shakes head: When I installed phunks road race fuel pump. On one of the fuel hoses. I put the hose clamp too low on the fitting. This allowed the hose to slip off of the fitting over a period of time. :shakes head: I would like to thank phunk for all of his help in getting this straighten out. :tiphat: :tup:

1st 09-06-2013 11:52 AM

Good to hear baby girl is up and running. :tup:

Mitco39 09-06-2013 12:25 PM

Its nice to know that I am not the only one to do stupid things while working on cars :) Glad you fixed it.

SouthArk370Z 09-06-2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 2475836)
Its nice to know that I am not the only one to do stupid things while working on cars :) Glad you fixed it.

Not by a looooonnnnnggggg shot. ;)


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