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Minsu 07-25-2013 10:54 AM

What does Stalling Exactly Do
 
First day i got my car stalled 30 times didnt think twice of it but now that im getting better and not stalling on the off occasion i do stall i feel like a hoe.
what does stalling do and can one or two stalls hurt me right now?

Chuck33079 07-25-2013 10:58 AM

You're not going to hurt anything stalling the car out. Don't worry about it.

Minsu 07-25-2013 11:00 AM

oh phew cause today there was a cop in to my left as i was pulling out of a lot and i didnt see him so i retardedly let off the clutch and stalled right in front of him...sigh

enkei2k 07-25-2013 11:02 AM

It kinda hurt my neck and ears a bit when I first stalled a few times. The loud bang and jerk is rough! Scared me, I thought I got hit or something.

Cmike2780 07-25-2013 11:05 AM

Eventually it's going to take a toll on the drivetrain if you keep doing it, but I doubt you caused any real damage. Only thing I can think of is damage to the cats from the unburt fuel and/or damage to the engine mounts from the sudden jolts (very unlikely unless you stall 30 times a day). You shouldn't be stalling at all after this point. Are you new to driving a manual? Stalling every once in a while isn't a big deal, but I'd practice on an old car if you're still constantly doing it.

Minsu 07-25-2013 11:06 AM

yea it was my first manual, i got it now its been almost two weeks? its just that cop caught me by surprise because i didnt see him beside me when i was pulling out of the lot.... lol

Cmike2780 07-25-2013 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Minsu (Post 2418542)
yea it was my first manual, i got it now its been almost two weeks? its just that cop caught me by surprise because i didnt see him beside me when i was pulling out of the lot.... lol

Yeah, no worried. The car is fine. The Z was my first manual also. Sounds silly, but it's all about feeling confidence. It took me about a month before I really felt comfortable around traffic. Most nerve racking situation is when you're on an upward incline and the car wants to roll back....and stalls. I'd definitely practice hill starts on an empty road if I were you.

kenchan 07-25-2013 11:12 AM

it hurts your pride.

Minsu 07-25-2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2418550)
Yeah, no worried. The car is fine. The Z was my first manual also. Sounds silly, but it's all about feeling confidence. It took me about a month before I really felt comfortable around traffic. Most nerve racking situation is when you're on an upward incline and the car wants to roll back....and stalls. I'd definitely practice hill starts on an empty road if I were you.

First day I got the car i got stuck in incline bumper to bumper traffic. and it wasnt pretty. thats where i stalled 30 times such a stressful day that was.

Minsu 07-25-2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2418552)
it hurts your pride.

My man pride got crushed, now im not confident taking girls in my car freakin a

Chuck33079 07-25-2013 11:20 AM

The way I taught my gf to drive a manual worked pretty well. Go to an empty parking lot with no parking blocks or curbs. Find two parking spots directly across the aisle from each other. Park in one. Reverse into the other. Drive forward into the original spot. Repeat until smooth. Shifting at speed is easy. It's the low speed stuff that can be tricky.

kenchan 07-25-2013 11:21 AM

it hurts your mom's pride too watching her son fail...





no i dont remember the last time i stalled a MT car.

Minsu 07-25-2013 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2418572)
it hurts your mom's pride too watching her son fail...





no i dont remember the last time i stalled a MT car.

:gtfo2:

jburke26 07-25-2013 03:09 PM

Last time i stalled my car I parked it and saw a huge dog running towards my car and I was afraid it was going to maul my car and jump on it. So i jumped the hell out and forgot to turn it off. I was in panic mode.

Vertigo 07-25-2013 03:15 PM

makes people waiting on you get impatient

Zbrah 07-25-2013 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2418572)
it hurts your mom's pride too watching her son fail...





no i dont remember the last time i stalled a MT car.

lol take it easy on the guy, we all started somewhere. I know my dad's pride was crushed during the time he taught me to drive my first manual. It took me three weeks to finally get it down, thinking back, the fear of shame and disappointing my pop was much more pressure than stalling. Been driving manual cars many years now and I'm still not very confident with the clutch on the Z, it's so damn soft and the catch point is like an inch off the top. Props to you Minsu for sticking to it, but like everyone said in the other thread, you should remove that spring maybe it'll be easier, I know that's the first mod I'd do when I pick up my Z. Keep at it buddy.

Cmike2780 07-25-2013 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 2418919)
lol take it easy on the guy, we all started somewhere. I know my dad's pride was crushed during the time he taught me to drive my first manual. It took me three weeks to finally get it down, thinking back, the fear of shame and disappointing my pop was much more pressure than stalling. Been driving manual cars many years now and I'm still not very confident with the clutch on the Z, it's so damn soft and the catch point is like an inch off the top. Props to you Minsu for sticking to it, but like everyone said in the other thread, you should remove that spring maybe it'll be easier, I know that's the first mod I'd do when I pick up my Z. Keep at it buddy.

I agree. My dad was a total d*ck when I was learning to drive stick. Now I'm way better that he is so he can't really talk sh*t anymore.

3.7 ZPA 07-25-2013 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jburke26 (Post 2418887)
Last time i stalled my car I parked it and saw a huge dog running towards my car and I was afraid it was going to maul my car and jump on it. So i jumped the hell out and forgot to turn it off. I was in panic mode.

You got out so the dog could maul you instead? Now THAT'S love. :p It's been a long time since I've stalled this car, but it happens. You definitely didn't pick an easy one for your first MT.

Bking 07-25-2013 05:13 PM

Don't worry. I've stalled numerous times when I got my first car. Just drive more and in a few months you should be confident enough to take girls for a ride, if you know what I mean.

RiCharlie 07-25-2013 05:25 PM

I dont mean to brag but I have never had this problem...:tup:

Chuck33079 07-25-2013 05:44 PM

What's embarrassing is the random stall ill get every six months or so. Just a momentary loss of left foot coordination.

xxAGAVExx 07-25-2013 05:50 PM

I learned to drive a manual years ago, but this is the first manual I've owned, needless to say I've had a few stalls. Most embarrassing was probably meeting up with the local z club for a car show, I pull up and forget to turn off the car before letting go of the clutch, FAIL!

fryzia23 07-25-2013 05:53 PM

if you get stuck on incline again with cars right on your rear and confidence still not 100%, I suggest using parking brake to prevent rolling back. I still use it sometimes on really steep inclines. It just gives that piece of mind that you wont hit anybody behind you especially when threyre really close

dP3NGU1N 07-25-2013 06:07 PM

I stalled my 85 4runner in the left turn lane once... cop gave me a thumbs up as he drove past me. lol :shakes head:

kenchan 07-25-2013 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 2418919)
lol take it easy on the guy, we all started somewhere. I know my dad's pride was crushed during the time he taught me to drive my first manual. It took me three weeks to finally get it down, thinking back, the fear of shame and disappointing my pop was much more pressure than stalling. Been driving manual cars many years now and I'm still not very confident with the clutch on the Z, it's so damn soft and the catch point is like an inch off the top. Props to you Minsu for sticking to it, but like everyone said in the other thread, you should remove that spring maybe it'll be easier, I know that's the first mod I'd do when I pick up my Z. Keep at it buddy.

yah, just so you guys know, im only kidding around.

the point is, it doesn't really hurt the car as much as it hurts you psychologically.

remember, you drive a sports car, people expect you to be able to handle it. :D otherwise, they just smirk or giggle at you.

like having a nice suit, but you dont know how to wear it... aka trying too hard.

Magic Bus 07-25-2013 06:20 PM

Minsu, stalling your car thirty times......it's totally wasted! I'll give you $25K for it :icon17: Glad to hear you're getting much better at it. After awhile you'll just be totally surprised when you stall it.

Cbtech 07-25-2013 06:27 PM

dude i still stall mine prob once a week and i have been driving stick for over 18 years. You might want to starting off in 2nd gear its much forgiving and won't jerk you around.

Magic Bus 07-25-2013 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fryzia23 (Post 2419159)
if you get stuck on incline again with cars right on your rear and confidence still not 100%, I suggest using parking brake to prevent rolling back. I still use it sometimes on really steep inclines. It just gives that piece of mind that you wont hit anybody behind you especially when threyre really close

Maybe I'm and old guy that's driven sticks since I was 16, but the cars back then didn't even have a hundred hp. Try driving one of those without rolling back on a steep incline. You'll then realize how easy a 370 is to start up an incline, even a steep one. Even using the handbrake with these old cars was no guarantee of rolling back.

I have lived on a lower part of a mountain for the past 20 years, so maybe I'm used to it. But in all honesty, the first week of ownership of the Z, I thought it had hill assist as the car never rolled back an inch. The torque that the Z has, will hold the car in it's place up an incline, if you release the clutch to the beginning part of it's catch point and then release the foot brake.

For you new guys to sticks, release the clutch till you see the rpm's on your tach decline a bit, then release your foot brake and then depress gas smoothly. You will not roll backwards. Otherwise, nothing wrong with using the handbrake.

kfull 07-25-2013 09:20 PM

I remember when I was first learning to drive stick my dad mentioned how there is a "friction point" where when you let the clutch out a certain amount, that the gears will "catch" and start the car moving. It was one of those lightbulb moments and I didn't really stall the car much after having it explained that way.

Minsu 07-26-2013 01:25 AM

yea i have the general gist of the damn thingy but like i need to park in my drive way and of course its inclined so not only do i have to go up the damn thing slowly in second but if i dont get as close to my moms car or garage door on my first try im guaranteed a stall there. sigh just stalled before i walked inside to post this post. fml and smh at the same damn time. other than that its been beautiful. now i gotta go to a social event tmr with three asian ladies , this should be interesting ill let you know how it goes

b15 07-26-2013 05:45 AM

The hand brake method messed me up on inclines more than helped. The key is to stay calm and try to do a smooth engagement. Also while it feels like you're rolling back a ton, its not really as far as you think, so long as you're quick to engage. I typically give it a little more revs awhen starting on an incline as well. Also if you're going up your incline drive slowly, do it in first. Then you can feather the clutch until you're in the spot you need to be. Dont lug it in 2nd creeping up the drive.

Don't worry about stalling here and there. I probably stalled 5-10times my first day and it went away after a few days of driving.

Haboob 07-26-2013 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2418552)
it hurts your pride.

:iagree:

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2419136)
What's embarrassing is the random stall ill get every six months or so. Just a momentary loss of left foot coordination.

Haven't stalled it yet, but I catch myself almost stalling due to this (or left leg fatigue - I have issues w/my leg so, yeah) all the time.

I catch myself riding the clutch sometimes too. :shakes head: Embarrassing.

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Originally Posted by Minsu (Post 2419580)
yea i have the general gist of the damn thingy but like i need to park in my drive way and of course its inclined so not only do i have to go up the damn thing slowly in second but if i dont get as close to my moms car or garage door on my first try im guaranteed a stall there. sigh just stalled before i walked inside to post this post. fml and smh at the same damn time. other than that its been beautiful. now i gotta go to a social event tmr with three asian ladies , this should be interesting ill let you know how it goes

Thinking about it will make it worse, trust me.

I remember stalling at an intersection (not many cars), but was so embarrassed that I took off and shifted 1-2-3 the best I ever had, because I wasn't thinking about it.








My first manual (10yrs ago) I stalled it probably 12 times in the first 3 days. I made my friend drive behind me when I had to go to work so that people wouldn't bitch/see me. :bowrofl:

Didn't really stall it much after that.

Then I got the Z... such a different feel that I stalled it several times the first few days too. I constantly catch myself almost stalling, or not shifting perfect (herky jerky feeling) still too.

luigi90210 07-26-2013 11:08 AM

at most, you will probably just wear out the clutch, honestly dont even worry about it

you will get better, i remember when i first got my Z(it technically is my second manual car but i just learned how to drive stick and i bought my Z so i really learned how to drive on my Z)

heck, i have been driving stick for over a year now and i still stall out every now and then, honestly dont worry about what others think, it happens to everyone driving a manual, no matter how experienced they are

luigi90210 07-26-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2419801)
:iagree:



Haven't stalled it yet, but I catch myself almost stalling due to this (or left leg fatigue - I have issues w/my leg so, yeah) all the time.

I catch myself riding the clutch sometimes too. :shakes head: Embarrassing.



Thinking about it will make it worse, trust me.

I remember stalling at an intersection (not many cars), but was so embarrassed that I took off and shifted 1-2-3 the best I ever had, because I wasn't thinking about it.








My first manual (10yrs ago) I stalled it probably 12 times in the first 3 days. I made my friend drive behind me when I had to go to work so that people wouldn't bitch/see me. :bowrofl:

Didn't really stall it much after that.

Then I got the Z... such a different feel that I stalled it several times the first few days too. I constantly catch myself almost stalling, or not shifting perfect (herky jerky feeling) still too.

remove the clutch helper spring, it really helps out alot, i was the same way until i removed the spring, now i have nothing but smooth shifts

Haboob 07-26-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2420052)
remove the clutch helper spring, it really helps out alot, i was the same way until i removed the spring, now i have nothing but smooth shifts

That was done on day 3 of ownership. ;)


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