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lastblueprint 11-21-2010 06:08 PM

Guys, thanks for such great input. For any one debating to get an oil cooler, you should. I have been driving my car up and down and it feels good not to worry about the car heating up to bad.

Dustin@Z1 11-21-2010 10:29 PM

Josh,
Thanks for the info. I will update that sheet when I get back to the shop and post a corrected table.

I was trying to be as objective evaluating the kits as possible. From my research putting our 370z kit together I checked out the Trans-dapt piece which appears to the same one in the images on the Stillen site. If this is not correct, let me know. I will correct this as well.

Christian,
Thanks for posting that up. That will definitly be helpful to people installing the Stillen kit.

Also, for people looking for the filters for the Stillen Kit. This may help with choosing a comparible oil filter. K&N Filters list all applications that use each of their products as well as a cross reference table. This link lists ALL known cross references for the K&N HP-1005 filter. You can search any auto parts store' website to source these filters:

K&N Filters HP-1005 Oil Filter Cross Reference Shart

Dustin@Z1 11-21-2010 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 817203)
Thanks Dustin for all this great info and comparison. I will be in touch with you when the time comes to pull the trigger on 2 oil cooler units (for two cars).

How well of an install does the 25 and 34 row work with Injen's CAI?

I personally cannot give a 100% accurate answer on this. I have not seen a Injen Kit installed on a 370z personally. I have seen ALOT of Stillen units, which is the only long tube intake I can vouch for.

Based from the pics I have seen online of the Injen kit and its installtion. I do not forsee a problem. Since the filters are relocated into the fender wells, beneath the headlights. You will not have the complications associated with routing the oil cooler lines around the filters like with the STILLEN GEN III Intake Kit. The only part I am not sure of is the replacement windshield washer bottle supplied with the kit. You may have to route the lines around the new washer bottle. Stillen, Nissan Motorsports and our Z1 Oil Cooler Kits come with plenty of line, so you can easily re-route the lines as needed.

I hope that this answers your question!

Josh@STILLEN 11-21-2010 10:50 PM

Definitely appreciate you aggregating all of the information together.. I know most look to Nissan branded products to consider especially in regards to warranty.. this one being a phenomenon as we all sit on the same playing field in regards to non-specific coverage with the factory warranty on an oil cooler, whether it's any of ours.

There is the extra step of compliance with a dealer installing it, but definitely not the time to look at something with the chance of a failure, a quality kit like these should be considered.. there have been failures with other off-brand kits, and some of them catastrophic.. :/

christian370z 11-21-2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dustin@Z1 (Post 818371)

Christian,
Thanks for posting that up. That will definitly be helpful to people installing the Stillen kit.

Also, for people looking for the filters for the Stillen Kit. This may help with choosing a comparible oil filter. K&N Filters list all applications that use each of their products as well as a cross reference table. This link lists ALL known cross references for the K&N HP-1005 filter. You can search any auto parts store' website to source these filters:

K&N Filters HP-1005 Oil Filter Cross Reference Shart

I have to admit though, I wish I could use the regular filters like your kit. It is kind of frustrating that the only thing restricting the Stillen supplied thermostatic plate is that one spot where the sealing lip gets thin which means you have to choose a filter with a wider seal.

Dustin@Z1 11-21-2010 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 818409)
Definitely appreciate you aggregating all of the information together.. I know most look to Nissan branded products to consider especially in regards to warranty.. this one being a phenomenon as we all sit on the same playing field in regards to non-specific coverage with the factory warranty on an oil cooler, whether it's any of ours.

There is the extra step of compliance with a dealer installing it, but definitely not the time to look at something with the chance of a failure, a quality kit like these should be considered.. there have been failures, and some of them catastrophic.. :/

No problem. I think as more and more of these products come on the market, it will become increasing important for everyone to know the differences between the kits so that they will be able to make a more educated decision before they purchase.

As far as the warranty comments are concerned. The Nissan Motorsports kit is considered as a "Race Application Part" [Nissan Motorsports will even admit this]. Therefor it is NOT covered under the Nissan Factory Warranty. It will be up to the dealer to warranty the product and the car once the kit is installed. What is even funnier [to me atleast] is that most dealerships do not even know of this kit or have a clue as to its Nissan Part # to even begin to order it.

lastblueprint 11-22-2010 01:55 PM

I agree, many dealerships did not even know of the heating problem. Also when my kit was order, there was not a part number for it. It was a back order item. Also most dealership do not have a tech that knows how to install the kit. For me to get this kit was a hassle to get, even though I got it free. I also let them install it because they told me it won’t affect my warranty. The dealership did take long to install, just the fact that it was the first Oil Cooler they had install for the 370z, they did an ok job, the only thing I did bitch about was, many missing screws. The reason I know, is the following day I dismantle my car to put a fender brace and notice all the screws missing, and there where many.

christian370z 11-22-2010 04:38 PM

Wouldn't Nissan appreciate installing an oil cooler, at least in the short term? Keeping the oil within its ideal operating temperature improves wear and tear on the internals of the engine.

Endgame 11-22-2010 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 819432)
Wouldn't Nissan appreciate installing an oil cooler, at least in the short term? Keeping the oil within its ideal operating temperature improves wear and tear on the internals of the engine.

My dealership was very willing to install the oil cooler and said no reputable Nissan dealership would deny warranty claims if the oil cooler was installed. They saw it as a preventative mod to the car.

ByP 07-06-2011 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 131395)
What does the sandwich plate do?

Make money hungry for lunch :), lol just kidding


Question
How does Motorsports Oil Cooler vs. Stillen Race Oil Cooler pair up?? they also have a race version??

ByP 07-06-2011 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 815327)
Agree with this and with what Dustin stated. Dustin told me of the way it reads oil too when i asked him. Of course though, I would, as did he and the guys at z1 also, recommend a thermostatic plate to everyone. period.

Awwh come on Creators this sounds like a non perfected product though they are still good, what i mean is how come "Motorsports Oil Cooler and Stillen Oil Cooler" complete the kit with everything that you need plus the thermostatic plate to avoid separate installs and be price Efficient???

please dont get me wrong but this just reminds me of the car guys that i grew up around who basically ended up with frankenstein cars after so many parts that should have been added since the knowledge was already known from the beginning!??

'10Anamoly 07-06-2011 08:12 AM

Isn't it a 78.5% increase in surface area..? Just did the math..

FricFrac 07-07-2011 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ByP (Post 1205413)
Awwh come on Creators this sounds like a non perfected product though they are still good, what i mean is how come "Motorsports Oil Cooler and Stillen Oil Cooler" complete the kit with everything that you need plus the thermostatic plate to avoid separate installs and be price Efficient???

please dont get me wrong but this just reminds me of the car guys that i grew up around who basically ended up with frankenstein cars after so many parts that should have been added since the knowledge was already known from the beginning!??

Almost three years later and people still don't get it...

nismo09 07-26-2011 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dustin@Z1 (Post 754842)
The air temp that day was easily in the mid to upper 80s here with little cloud cover to speak of.

Keep in mind though, these temps are on an older 300zx Non Turbo. The oil temps on a newer 370z are going to be higher. The 34 row oil cooler seems to be doing its job if you are only seeing 200-225 @ 100 degree air temp. How long are the run sessions for? An ideal oil temp is really between ~ 185 on the low side and ~200 to 210 on the high side.

In the case of the 370z. Just being able to prevent the engine from going into "Limp mode" and away from the 280 degree mark is ideal. I have heard cases where people all over the country get their Z's to react that temp just in a spirited mountain drive.

Sorry Dustin I forgot to answer your question. My sessions are 25 minutes long. I do a warm up lap and cool down lap and everything in between is go, go, go. I am doing an event this weekend and the temps will be 101-103 degrees and the Nismo will not get over 225 degrees. It is a beautiful thing.

ZForce 11-25-2011 01:05 PM

Did not see this mentioned, maybe I missed it on the previous pages, but can the extended oil filters be used?

i.e. Purolator Pure One extended oil filter part # PL14610

I just ordered two 25 row coolers w/thermostat and plastic coated lines from John @ Z1 Motorsports during their one day Black Friday sale. Anyone sitting on the fence should take advantage of the savings, today only. :tup:


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