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///PureSwank 07-15-2013 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Joepro (Post 2405856)
I came to this conclusion as well, my first thought actually, but WOT should still be WOT, no matter how fast or slow it is pressed, I will continue my tests before I pass final judgement. I wish I had engine monitoring software so I could see the throttle %.

Wot is Wot. But the factory lag is removed and there is nothing that you can do about that regardless how fast you press the peddle down. And this is aside from a more aggressive responsiveness that this devixe gives you. Its a hell of a differece when both of those are combined.

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Baer383 07-16-2013 12:49 AM

When you redo the throttle maps in Uprev from scratch the throttle lag is removed,but most people won't take the time to do this but I have.:tup:

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Chuck33079 07-16-2013 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2405866)
Wot is Wot. But the factory lag is removed and there is nothing that you can do about that regardless how fast you press the peddle down. And this is aside from a more aggressive responsiveness that this devixe gives you. Its a hell of a differece when both of those are combined.

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Right. But the side effect of increasing the signal by 30% means that the car will think it is at WOT at 70% pedal travel. The white paper showed it pretty clearly with charts of the throttle position and the signal sent to the car. You can't have it both ways. If you increase the rate the throttle opens, you reach maximum earlier.

SATX_NISMO 07-16-2013 07:44 AM

I'll be installing the Apexi Version soon, I will keep you guys updated. I figured I would go with a company Im very familiar with and had great experiences with.

///PureSwank 07-17-2013 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2405998)
Right. But the side effect of increasing the signal by 30% means that the car will think it is at WOT at 70% pedal travel. The white paper showed it pretty clearly with charts of the throttle position and the signal sent to the car. You can't have it both ways. If you increase the rate the throttle opens, you reach maximum earlier.

I completely agree that WOT is WOT. Thats understandable. My point is that the Sprint Boosters lag removal and quicker response will get you up there alot quicker. Therefore, the one WITH it will most likely outrun the competitor. This ofcourse having 2 stock 370z with the exception of one carring a sprint booster. I don't know why so many try to discredit what this little device does. It really is the best bang for your buck. HANDS DOWN.

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Chuck33079 07-17-2013 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2407201)
It really is the best bang for your buck. HANDS DOWN.

Considering it costs half of an Uprev tune that accomplishes pretty much the same thing and a lot of other stuff as well, I'd argue the exact opposite.

Edit now that I'm not typing on my phone- Of course you'll feel a noticable difference with the Sprint Booster. I've never argued that fact. Since you're compressing 100% of the throttle opening into the first 70% of pedal travel, it'll feel much better. My point is that all it's doing is moving you into a different area of the stock throttle tables faster. That's all it can do. It has no access to the ECU. The values in the stock tables suck. Why not just use Uprev to adjust the values in the tables? You'll get the feel you're looking for, but preserve the shape of the throttle curve and not hit a dead spot between 70% and 100% pedal travel.

///PureSwank 07-17-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2407315)
Considering it costs half of an Uprev tune that accomplishes pretty much the same thing and a lot of other stuff as well, I'd argue the exact opposite.

Edit now that I'm not typing on my phone- Of course you'll feel a noticable difference with the Sprint Booster. I've never argued that fact. Since you're compressing 100% of the throttle opening into the first 70% of pedal travel, it'll feel much better. My point is that all it's doing is moving you into a different area of the stock throttle tables faster. That's all it can do. It has no access to the ECU. The values in the stock tables suck. Why not just use Uprev to adjust the values in the tables? You'll get the feel you're looking for, but preserve the shape of the throttle curve and not hit a dead spot between 70% and 100% pedal travel.

There is already various testimonies on this forum from people with uprev tunes that have stated their uprev tune did NOT have such a big impact on throttle lag and responsivemes as the sprint booster did. Now, their either all lying or all paid 600 dollars for bad tunes. Ill be needing a tune soon when my headers come in and according to countless testimonies across multiple forums and various owners from audi, BMW, chrysler, nissan, suburu, etc etc... it seems to keep everyone happy. I think its pretty much speaks for it self. Its been well worth every single penny spent on. It still catches me off guard as a matter of fact. Everybody seems to love what it does. Have you tried this device? I'm just wondering.

Oh and their is a 09 GTR bieng sold on cars.com for 55k and 25, 000 miles. Lol



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Baer383 07-17-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2407696)
There is already various testimonies on this forum from people with uprev tunes that have stated their uprev tune did NOT have such a big impact on throttle lag and responsivemes as the sprint booster did. Now, their either all lying or all paid 600 dollars for bad tunes. Ill be needing a tune soon when my headers come in and according to countless testimonies across multiple forums and various owners from audi, BMW, chrysler, nissan, suburu, and THAT doesn't lie. I think its pretty much speaks for it self. Its been well worth every single penny spent on. It still catches me off guard as a matter of fact. Everybody seems to love what it does. Have you tried this device? I'm just wondering.

Oh and their is a 09 GTR bieng sold on cars.com for 55k and 25, 000 miles. Lol



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Like I said in my last post they did not get the throttle tables tuned they only got a/f,idle speed,timing stuff like that most tuners don't know how to tune the throttle maps if they did you wouldn't need the booster.

Chuck33079 07-17-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2407696)
There is already various testimonies on this forum from people with uprev tunes that have stated their uprev tune did NOT have such a big impact on throttle lag and responsivemes as the sprint booster did. Now, their either all lying or all paid 600 dollars for bad tunes. Ill be needing a tune soon when my headers come in and according to countless testimonies across multiple forums and various owners, I think its pretty much speaks for it self. Its been well worth every single penny they spent on it.Everybody seems to love what it does. Have you tried this device? I'm just wondering.

It's not a given that a tuner is going to spend a lot of time dialing in the throttle tables. Most likely you'll have to make sure they know it's a priority for you. It's not a knock on the tuners, but the vast majority of them are spending an hour, maybe two dialing in the overall tune and not spending a great deal of time on the throttle tables.

http://www.the370z.com/tuning/43384-...tle-uprev.html
There's a lot of people who have gotten their throttle dialed in very well using Uprev. You could take one of the throttle tables from there and have your tuner do something like that.

If the Sprint Booster costs $300 and only deals with artificially compressing the throttle signal vs. $600 for a full tune that adds power, adjusts the throttle tables, lets you control the fan temps, etc, I just don't see the value in the Spring Booster. You do. I'm glad you feel that your money was well spent. At the end of the day that's all that's important. I'd personally rather change the tables themselves than use a device that forces the throttle to another cell on the map.

///PureSwank 07-17-2013 11:34 AM

I ran into that thread before I bought the sprint booster. Even though it does improve throttle response it seems to still cause trouble down the road as updates become available. Would this be another 300-600 dollars to adjust? A tune is well worth the money and at some points required.

Not everybody needs an all out tune. Why pay 600 dollars for a stock z all because you simply want more responsiveness with no need what so ever to change the timing on fans when you can just settle for 280 and have one hell of a change.

Guess it just boils down to that persons specific sitiation. I will be getting an all out tune some time in the near future because Ill pretty much be required to. I think then more then half a thousand dollars are well worth it.

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Chuck33079 07-17-2013 11:36 AM

Since you're going to get a tune anyway, take one of the maps from the thread I linked with you. Have the tuner program that in. That way you can give us your impression of a good Uprev throttle table vs. the Sprint Booster.

Also, you're in TX. That's reason enough to tweak the OEM fan settings.

fairlady_z34 07-17-2013 11:39 AM

if you plan to get a tune anyways isnt best to just throw in the extra few hundred for uprev and get rid of the lag? would the sprintbooster and uprev combination improve it even more?

Chuck33079 07-17-2013 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by fairlady_z34 (Post 2407742)
if you plan to get a tune anyways isnt best to just throw in the extra few hundred for uprev and get rid of the lag? would the sprintbooster and uprev combination improve it even more?

That's what we're trying to determine. If somebody takes a "known good" throttle table with them when they get tuned, it'll be easy to compare A vs B. Right now, we don't know who had much, if any, time spent on the throttle tables when they got tuned. It's not necessarily one of the things a tuner adjusts.

///PureSwank 07-17-2013 11:48 AM

The stock fan has really never been an issue even in Texas. Arizona seems to take the cake. The sprint booster could be shut off at a tap of a button so it would be fairly simple to compare both once a GOOD tune on throttle response has been placed. There have been several people on here with both that claim the sprint booster does a better job but we don't know if their tune had emphasis on throttle lag and response.

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Chuck33079 07-17-2013 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2407747)
The sprint booster could be shut off at a tap of a button so it would be fairly simple to compare both once a GOOD tune on throttle response has been placed.

Exactly. My wild *** guess is that with a properly adjusted throttle, the feeling will be fairly similar.

Driftomodachi 07-24-2013 03:27 PM

Is this the same as the spring booster? it says it only costs $59.50 vs $299 for the sprint booster

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http://www.sprintboosterusa.com/p-18...ssan-370z.aspx

///PureSwank 07-24-2013 07:11 PM

I have never tested that device. Seems like it does the same thing. I've never heard a testimony over that though. Youve might have found similar performance for a better bargain.

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Felix 808 07-24-2013 07:33 PM

From Sprint Booster's web site

"• Sprint Booster does not increase Horsepower.

• Sprint Booster does not reduce your 0-60mph times.

• Sprint Booster DOES make your car 'FEEL' faster.

• Sprint Booster is not for everyone."

Draw your own conclusions. ;)

Alkatraz 07-24-2013 07:43 PM

I wouldn't buy one, but no one can deny that a placebo effect is an effect none the less.....

SATX_NISMO 07-24-2013 08:45 PM

Thats just the harness. I'm running the Apexi version and love it. Worth the money in my opinion.

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LukasC 07-24-2013 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SATX_NISMO (Post 2417676)
Thats just the harness. I'm running the Apexi version and love it. Worth the money in my opinion.

When can I check it out tony??

Driftomodachi 07-25-2013 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SATX_NISMO (Post 2417676)
Thats just the harness. I'm running the Apexi version and love it. Worth the money in my opinion.

That's what I thought. Since Apexi is "JDM Tyte yo" I knew that wasn't right. How much for the complete unit?

SATX_NISMO 07-25-2013 09:35 AM

Possibly this weekend Luke. Whats your schedule look like this weekend?

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Originally Posted by LukasC (Post 2417867)
When can I check it out tony??

I ordered through a local shop. I believe it was around 280.
You can probably find it online for a little less. Just remember its vehicle specific.

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Originally Posted by Driftomodachi (Post 2417989)
That's what I thought. Since Apexi is "JDM Tyte yo" I knew that wasn't right. How much for the complete unit?


tiger123 07-25-2013 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SATX_NISMO (Post 2418292)
Possibly this weekend Luke. Whats your schedule look like this weekend?



I ordered through a local shop. I believe it was around 280.
You can probably find it online for a little less. Just remember its vehicle specific.

Guys, this looks like it attaches to the OBDII port. Is that correct? As FYI, the sprint booster attaches to the throttle body via accelerator pedal.

SATX_NISMO 07-25-2013 06:41 PM

No its plug and play it connects between the gas pedal and stock harness plug.

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Originally Posted by tiger123 (Post 2418501)
Guys, this looks like it attaches to the OBDII port. Is that correct? As FYI, the sprint booster attaches to the throttle body via accelerator pedal.


cg2006 07-25-2013 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2405916)
When you redo the throttle maps in Uprev from scratch the throttle lag is removed,but most people won't take the time to do this but I have.:tup:

So I'm looking to do my first UpRev next month with all my mods, asking for new throttle maps will do the same thing as this Sprint Booster? Was there additional charges for it done?

blak max 10-09-2014 03:08 PM

is this mod more responsive than http://www.350z-tech.com/forums/atta...t-s3600081.jpg
?

Joepro 10-09-2014 03:17 PM

2 for regular mode...duh. need 4 to equate race mode on the SB... ;)

bhandy 08-25-2015 10:14 PM

Question on installing, with smart keys it would throw a cel when installing on my Audi and I had to leave key in house, keep door open and hood till everything went off. Is this the same for the 370? I just ordered a sprintbooster for my 2015 sport touring roadster, auto. Please advise, as I impatiently wait for ups...

Brian in Bakersfield...

mkn23 08-26-2015 06:33 AM

Does this remove the lag when you are accelerating and let go of the throttle and stepping back on the throttle?

Not sure if it's just a G37 7AT thing or for 370Z 7AT too. I get a flat spot with at least a second of delay before power kicks in again when letting go of the pedal.

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Ramage 08-26-2015 06:09 PM

I put mine in a month ago, simple to put in. I'll say this much, it is staying in red mode and it is not being removed. It completely got rid of the lag. I do not have a tune on my Z as I purchased a 15 this spring and will not tune till warranty runs out.
When that happens will prob go the TT route.

ban25 08-26-2015 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mkn23 (Post 3293959)
Does this remove the lag when you are accelerating and let go of the throttle and stepping back on the throttle?

Not sure if it's just a G37 7AT thing or for 370Z 7AT too. I get a flat spot with at least a second of delay before power kicks in again when letting go of the pedal.

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That sounds like your transmission shifting up as you get off the throttle and back down when you get back on it.

jcosta79 08-26-2015 10:07 PM

Just ordered one. I have an UpRev tune already so we'll see if it makes a difference in throttle response. If not, I have 30 days to return it and get my money back. I will let you guys know the results.

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JC-Nismo 08-27-2015 12:56 AM

Dammit, now I have to spend money again :)

mkn23 08-27-2015 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ban25 (Post 3294647)
That sounds like your transmission shifting up as you get off the throttle and back down when you get back on it.

So the Sprint booster won't actually change anything since it's the transmission selecting the gear being the issue instead of pedal response?

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ban25 08-28-2015 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mkn23 (Post 3294705)
So the Sprint booster won't actually change anything since it's the transmission selecting the gear being the issue instead of pedal response?

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Well, I don't have a Sprint Booster to say for certain. It sounds like it will help you get to full throttle faster when putting the pedal to the floor at low RPMs, but it won't decrease the time required for your transmission to shift.

jchammond 08-28-2015 03:57 AM

i'm curious how these "Sprint-Booster's" work in conjuction from a good dyno tune,,,i've seen the sprint booster video & it looks impressive on throttle response,,,but myquestion is? can you get the same throttle response from a tune/just can't select the aggressiveness?? input welcome.
ty,joby

z_nation 07-14-2016 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by stewarts2008 (Post 2368435)
you see, this is why I hate forums..... i dont NEED that, but now I WANT it

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Jhill 07-15-2016 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 3294665)
Just ordered one. I have an UpRev tune already so we'll see if it makes a difference in throttle response. If not, I have 30 days to return it and get my money back. I will let you guys know the results.

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If you already have uprev then why not have the tuner just make a more aggressive throttle map? Inwent the ecutek route and couldn't imagine a more aggressive throttle, actually seriously considering making it a little slower at just off idle.


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