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Q8y_drifter 07-06-2013 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2297241)
So 260 degree water is ok?
Come run a boosted car in Texas in the summer when the temperature is 100+ and the air temp off the ground is 110-120 on a daily basis. I think last summer I registered a 183 degree intake temp when sitting at a light once because of an accident and I could not move, black top plus idle plus 100 degree temp.

This ^^
I have an 08 G35 HR, not even boosted just idling in 56C (133F) ambient summer temps, water temp was at 110C (235F). That's just crazy. Between the insufficiently thin radiator, 95C thermostat and 98C factory fans temp setting, the cooling system is definitely shitty IMO.

370zrider 07-06-2013 08:21 PM

I think both radiators look good. Mishimoto's videos are excellent explaining the details of the radiator and its installation.

However I think there could be problems for people trying to fit intercoolers in the car with Mishimoto's thicker radiator.
There may not be enough space for radiator + oilcooler + intercooler.

Someone with a turbokit has this installation?

red2010z 07-06-2013 08:38 PM

I now own a CSF radiator and I will see how she hold up in the El Paso heat!

LafitteZ 07-07-2013 10:06 AM

Any of these radiators will be sufficient. I personally have a csf radiator and its been great for me. I think mishimoto is trying to step there game up a bit with there new stuff. It will be good for there business for sure. As for a NA car you could probably get away with a big oil cooler but why take the chance and run your stuff hot like that. It will begin premature wearing of parts. No reason for these cars to be in 230s to 240s. Especially not when we have good solid options like we have. Also if you have a automatic z the radiator is also your transmission cooler so you def want that to be cool. Now when it comes to boosted cars. Most of is are running gtms turbo kit or some variation of it. So you have coolant and oil passing thru the turbos only to return to the radiator and oil pan. You strap on a oil cooler that takes car of that but that also blocks some airflow to the radiator and adds heat directly in front of the radiator. Also add the 3 inch thick intercooler right behind the bumper inlet and the heat that thing will generate under boost so it's easy to tell how overwhelmed and stressed the oem radiator is. Add a good radiator with a NA or boosted setup and your engine will love you. Your ac will be much colder, oil temps colder, I've even seen under hood temps go down. Trust me is down south know what it's like to be hot and humid 80 percent of the year. Chicago is nothing next to New Orleans or cities in Texas Florida ect ect.

LafitteZ 07-07-2013 10:09 AM

They both need to get on the ball and get a upgraded fan and shroud plug and play setup!!!

red2010z 07-07-2013 10:14 AM

Yeah but made in China gives me a sour taste in my mouth.

SS_Firehawk 07-07-2013 11:00 AM

Spending money on GTM's option left me nauseous and my wallet empty. Thank you Red for picking it up btw, my parts sale softened the blow :)

red2010z 07-07-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2394697)
Spending money on GTM's option left me nauseous and my wallet empty. Thank you Red for picking it up btw, my parts sale softened the blow :)

No worries Thank you for the deal!

LafitteZ 07-07-2013 12:49 PM

Yea that sucker is eeexxxpppeeennnsssiiivvveee!!!!! Would've made me sick also.

Mishimoto 07-08-2013 01:21 PM

Our products are manufactured in a variety of facilities. Mishimoto is a global provider with offices in Delaware, Los Angeles, Birmingham, United Kingdom and Shanghai, China. All products are designed, engineered and tested in New Castle, Delaware at our corporate headquarters using state of the art machinery (CMM arms, AWD Dyno, Rapid Prototyping, etc.). The manufacturing location depends on the product we are manufacturing. For example, all of our intercooler pipes for diesel trucks are made in Los Angeles. Our stamped aluminum brackets come from Texas. The radiator referenced in this post is in fact made in China, under strict control of our American operated Shanghai branch. We actually do oversee the manufacturing as we have a supply chain office with 10 engineers that work in China and oversee the implementation of our USA designs. We try to make as many parts in the States as possible, where feasible. With that said, much like Samsung or Apple, it comes down to the engineering behind the part and the quality control of the manufacturing. With a lifetime warranty on every part we manufacture, it is safe to say our parts are of the highest quality.

jcast_0089 07-09-2013 12:16 AM

hey guys, I just had my CSF Radiator and Z1 Oil cooler kit installed on my car and drove it home and parked it. When I got out and walked over to the passenger side after letting it sit for a few minutes, I noticed some water leaking from underneath my car. I think that it is the AC leaking. Is it normal for that to happen after the AC gets recharged?

Chuck33079 07-09-2013 05:52 AM

Are you sure it's not normal condensation from the ac?

ChrisSlicks 07-09-2013 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2396719)
Are you sure it's not normal condensation from the ac?

This. :iagree:

It is normal for the A/C to drain condensation.

ColdFire 07-10-2013 01:58 PM

This discussion is prompt at the right time, summer is starting to boil and consider a radiator would be up on my list.
question for the Turbo and SS guys, is there enough space to install big oil cooler, csf radiator and intercooler?

theDreamer 07-10-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdFire (Post 2399013)
This discussion is prompt at the right time, summer is starting to boil and consider a radiator would be up on my list.
question for the Turbo and SS guys, is there enough space to install big oil cooler, csf radiator and intercooler?

Yes and no.
TT Intercooler->Oil Cooler (up to a certain size)->Radiator will work, but for the single SC guys (GTM) the space between the intercooler & radiator is to small so the oil cooler is mounted off to one side.


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