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vehl 07-14-2009 02:41 AM

Recommended Motor Oil
 
I tried looking around for what type (not brand) of M-oil can be used for the 370 but havent been able to find any. I'm stuck between 5w-40 and 10w-40, fully synthetic and synthetic respectively. the 10w costs 1/2 as much.

Our climate is always at 25-35c so it never really gets cold here. Does that mean I neednt take the cold rating too seriously, i.e. the 5w, where the 10w-40 will perform just the same when the oil's hot, ie. 40. Correct if im wrong.

Chan Chee Hoe 07-14-2009 06:38 AM

Which part of Asia are you in.?I am in S'pore...

Scribe 07-14-2009 08:26 AM

Nissan's recommendation is to use an Ester oil, not just some synthetic. It contains particles that work with the coating in the valvetrain to reduce friction. I get mine from the Nissan dealership. Cost me only 10 bucks more for my regular service over normal synthetic.

Old Chuck 07-14-2009 08:51 AM

It very well may be that the Nissan Ester oil is the best for these engines but just because a manufacturer sells something does not mean it is the best. Don't forget that they have a financial reason for selling their oil. As long as you use their oil then they make money. Their only concern is that the engine last past the warranty period and most any good oil would allow the engine to last 36,000. Again, I am not saying that the Nissan Ester oil is not the best but just because they sell it does not mean it is the best..

LiquidZ 07-14-2009 09:49 AM

Here we go again.

AK370Z 07-14-2009 10:20 AM

Before jumping on the whole Nissan Ester oil stuff, my first question to you would be WHAT motor oils (Regular and synthetic) do you have available in your country? Where in ASIA are you? Give us those answers and we'll go from there

vehl 07-14-2009 06:24 PM

im in brunei. we dont have that nissan ester oil (or at least nobody's using it). we've got mostly mobil1, castrol, shell helix, and ranges from synthetic to fully synthetic. most of the workshops including the dealer suggest using the fully synthetic 5w-40. hell they use this oil for every car probably..

Chan Chee Hoe 07-14-2009 06:40 PM

I am using Shell Helix Ultra 5w-40.

AK370Z 07-14-2009 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by vehl (Post 114218)
im in brunei. we dont have that nissan ester oil (or at least nobody's using it). we've got mostly mobil1, castrol, shell helix, and ranges from synthetic to fully synthetic. most of the workshops including the dealer suggest using the fully synthetic 5w-40. hell they use this oil for every car probably..

wow, Brunei. Very cool. Just use any synthetic that's available to you. YOu'll be fine. Nissan USA only RECOMMENDS the ester oil, it's NOT required.

Just curious, is it true that in your country public transportation and health care are TOTALLY FREE?

vehl 07-14-2009 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 114385)
Just curious, is it true that in your country public transportation and health care are TOTALLY FREE?

no, and no. bus rides are very cheap. and health care at a govt hospital is only cheap if ur a citizen of brunei.

so ur recommending synthetic or fully synthetic AK? i guess ''always go for the best'' for oil..

Chan Chee Hoe 07-15-2009 06:44 PM

Brunei is a nice place,S'pore 's army do training there,Brunei's sultan also got a large fleet of nice cars,about 2500 units store in a car park,by the way are you a Chinese.?

vehl 07-23-2009 10:11 PM

^yes i am. i think il lean on 5w-40 then. seems like the best way to go. anyone tried a -50 rating?

and 2500 cars as most ppl know is the tip of the iceberg..

kannibul 07-24-2009 04:53 PM

I dunno about overseas if oil is rated differently, 5w30 is what's recommended.

Brazilbro 07-25-2009 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 114385)
Just curious, is it true that in your country public transportation and health care are TOTALLY FREE?

nothing is ever free, our public trasportation cant even pay for it self.. I never knew it came outa my property taxes till this year.. being first year owning a house.. i cant believe i gota pay for buses that no one uses!..
sorrry just had to rant!

vehl 07-26-2009 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 124369)
I dunno about overseas if oil is rated differently, 5w30 is what's recommended.

thats the general consensus. here its a difficult find that spec, we've got 5w-40 fully syn. n i think i saw a mobil1 5w-50 fully syn.. wonder if thats any better in quelling the high oil temps..

Chan Chee Hoe 07-27-2009 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by vehl (Post 126973)
thats the general consensus. here its a difficult find that spec, we've got 5w-40 fully syn. n i think i saw a mobil1 5w-50 fully syn.. wonder if thats any better in quelling the high oil temps..

For our Asia hot weather,5w-40 is fine....actually 5w is useless here,we don't have cold winter,so most important in our country is the behind reading,40-50 should be fine...

kannibul 07-27-2009 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by vehl (Post 126973)
thats the general consensus. here its a difficult find that spec, we've got 5w-40 fully syn. n i think i saw a mobil1 5w-50 fully syn.. wonder if thats any better in quelling the high oil temps..

No, thicker oil would more than likely get hotter as it's being "squished" more...

Even then, using 40 or 50 oil could potentially damage the engine.

5w-30 should be common nearly everywhere (even overseas, unless your area doesn't have any new vehicles from the past 10 years). Look around for it.

vehl 07-27-2009 06:44 PM

^ ya that makes sense having too thick an oil. I wont stray to -50, but everyone here with the 350s are using the -40, and the dealer is too.. so i guess its different..

i might try the -30 too and see if it makes any difference..

Motulex 12-02-2009 11:38 PM

since u at Brunei, I m Motul Distributor Sarawak and u may look for me at Miri.
I do hv Motul H-Tech 5w30 100% synthetic 4L (Made In Singapore) or Motul 300v Power Racing 5w30 100% synthetic double ester 2L (Made In France)

Our Motul Oil is pure fully imported! I do posted some advertisment at brunei website but kena deleted! maybe control by BSM*(SHELL) so cant enter Brunei yet!

Motulex 12-02-2009 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chan Chee Hoe (Post 127356)
For our Asia hot weather,5w-40 is fine....actually 5w is useless here,we don't have cold winter,so most important in our country is the behind reading,40-50 should be fine...

in asia tropical country, the max is using xW-50, but i m sure your new ride wont need xW-50!!!

try the low viscosity 0w30/5w30!! all the oil will flash over 200 degree celsier, do your engine reach that temperature? somemore our tropical temperature is hot right? but our radiator is working and the termostate is work on time too! so wont getting high temperature except something wrong to your engine cooling system!

strong recommend Motul Engine oil & Lubricants for Nissan, Subaru and etc!!
Motul Nismo Competition Oil available too!!!

kannibul 12-03-2009 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by in.the.dark (Post 113782)
Nissan's recommendation is to use an Ester oil, not just some synthetic. It contains particles that work with the coating in the valvetrain to reduce friction. I get mine from the Nissan dealership. Cost me only 10 bucks more for my regular service over normal synthetic.

Not quite - Nissan recommends using their oil which has particles in it to work with the valvetrain, and is suspected to have Esters.

Outside of that, the manual says you can use any oil as long as it meets specs outlined in the manual, which is pretty much any 5w-30 on the shelf these days...but, I'd at least recommend a reputable synthetic.

vehl 12-03-2009 06:15 AM

i'm fine with the synthetic i have at the moment. i read in my manual the car takes all sorts of oils from 5w-30 to 10w-40 so it wudnt really make much difference. the high oil temp is a wellknown issue, and annoyingly it rises really quickly at high revs.. my direction should really be an oil cooler but we'll see..

370Zsteve 12-03-2009 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 305393)
Nissan recommends using their oil which has particles in it to work with the valvetrain, and is suspected to have Esters.

You talking about Nissan Ester Oil? :icon14:

http://www.z1motorsports.com/g37_370...600&page=popup

Motulex 12-04-2009 06:20 AM

What is ester oil and how is it different than conventional oil?

Ester oil is synthetic base oil that has been chemically synthesized. Typically ester oils are used in passenger car air conditioning compressors, refrigerators, and other industrial applications. Esters are one of the classes of synthetics that have been used in Mobil 1 products as well. Esters are stable molecules, provide good solvency, and provide very good low temperature and high temperature performance in engine oils.

Joebarchuck 08-16-2010 06:13 PM

I would be scared using 5w40 or 5w50 for the car. The viscosity while hot is too much. The rule is simple go lower than recommended never higher.

Recommended by Nissan: 5w30
You can use synthetic:
-5w30
-5w20
-5w10
-0w30
-0w20
-0w10

I would recommend 5w20 though. It's always better to go a tad lower.

Jordo! 08-16-2010 06:42 PM

Allegedly Nissan's blend has a special affinity at the mollecular level for the DLC coating on the valvetrain.

Now is that really significant and will other ester oils perform just as well? Who knows?

However, I know I haven't seen an esepecially good UOA from anyone using the Nissan oil yet, which is not a ringing endorsement...

I'm going to try Castrol 0-W30 on my next change.

homelessgdog 11-07-2012 03:18 PM

I asked my first question today and I searched a little longer to find the answer by you on this post. Thank you. I did notice just from a short 20 mile drive with the Mobil 1 ester base oil that the engine was quieter. I leaned on it too to verify the engine was a little quieter. I know this isn't a Versa or a Roque so I don't mind paying a premium for the oil. The engine can't be cheap to replace if stuff happens. Thanks!!

axmea? 11-09-2012 01:06 AM

Currently using Redline but seriously considering AMSOIL Signature Series 5w30 Synthetic plus their EA15K12 oil filter. Do the research though.


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