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gussyturbo z 12-02-2012 03:45 PM

WTF! Is wrong with my clutch!!
 
It is all the way into the ground and it will not come back up and I cannot start the car. WTF!!

jcosta79 12-02-2012 03:49 PM

Check your clutch fluid, it's probably black and needs a flush and re-fill. It's a common problem and shouldn't happen if the fluid is flushed regularly.

dP3NGU1N 12-02-2012 04:21 PM

Other possibility is the CSC failing.

Trips 12-02-2012 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 2043009)
Check your clutch fluid, it's probably black and needs a flush and re-fill. It's a common problem and shouldn't happen if the fluid is flushed regularly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N (Post 2043042)
Other possibility is the CSC failing.

:iagree:

on both


Op you may want take a look underneath the car for possible fluid leak.

If so?

The Clutch Slave Cylinder or Clutch Master Cylinder may need to be replaced.

Either way it's looking like a dealer visit unless you have the tools and knowledge to do the work yourself

MJB 12-02-2012 05:07 PM

OP, its probably a faulty CSC like mentioned above. If your Z is still under warranty you should be fine. I would just buy a heavy duty CSC like this one from Zspeed- ZSpeed Performance Replacment HD Clutch CSC Heavy Duty Slave Cylinder Kit

^These are the way to go. Our stock CSC are crappy plastic design that seem to fail left and right.

gussyturbo z 12-02-2012 06:05 PM

It was leaking!! So it might be the slave cylinder hope the dealer doesn't say anything about the stillen supercharger. What do you guys think? Is this a common problem with the z? I only have 20,000 miles.

SPOHN 12-02-2012 06:41 PM

Might be an ''IF'' on what the dealer does. But I'd personally handle it myself. Buy a new clutch and HD CSC.

gussyturbo z 12-02-2012 07:13 PM

Well looks like she's going to the dealer tomorrow and getting it checked out. Thanks peeps!:mad:

cheshirecat 12-02-2012 07:47 PM

people really need to start reading what's been written about the clutch problems before posting a new thread, do a search or at least try to look... I mean there's the same question on this very page. :/

diddy535 12-02-2012 07:57 PM

If you have a supercharger and its the oem clutch might not be a bad idea to upgrade it to something that can handle some of the extra power.

gussyturbo z 12-02-2012 08:01 PM

Sorry thread monitor! I'm new and still learning I guess I just needed help and needed an answer.

axmea? 12-02-2012 08:43 PM

hope it is covered by warranty. Most likely it's both MC and CSC.

gussyturbo z 12-02-2012 08:59 PM

I did notice that the resovior was empty!

Staples 12-02-2012 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gussyturbo z (Post 2043413)
I did notice that the resovior was empty!

Stock concentric slave cylinder failed, same thing happened to me. I ended up replacing mine and going with the ZSpeedPerformance upgraded heavy duty one, haven't had an issue since.

TreeSemdyZee 12-02-2012 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 2043078)
OP, its probably a faulty CSC like mentioned above. If your Z is still under warranty you should be fine. I would just buy a heavy duty CSC like this one from Zspeed- ZSpeed Performance Replacment HD Clutch CSC Heavy Duty Slave Cylinder Kit

^These are the way to go. Our stock CSC are crappy plastic design that seem to fail left and right.

+1 to Zspeed. Since you're in Mansfield, it's a pretty short trip to Cincinnati (assuming that's Mansfield, OH).

gomer_110 12-02-2012 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 2043485)
+1 to Zspeed. Since you're in Mansfield, it's a pretty short trip to Cincinnati (assuming that's Mansfield, OH).

Z Speed's in Dayton, not Cincinnati.

Glokwork 12-02-2012 09:57 PM

I'm confident its the CSC, the same exact thing happened to me a couple months ago with only 12k miles. They will probably give you crap about the SC but do mention to them its a junk part with a long history of failures and I do believe there is a TSB on this.

phunk 12-02-2012 10:14 PM

Ya almost definitely the CSC. I did the Zspeed CSC when I upgraded my clutch. 18,000 or something miles ago, no problem.

As for the warranty... I would be very cautious before arriving at a dealership with a supercharged 370z and asking for any warranty work. I believe that you can DEFINITELY get this covered under warranty... but I would call around and test the waters anonymously and see which dealer you find appears to be the most mod friendly. Some dealers can be real jerks about modifications.

Once your car is there, they know they get the work. They get paid better to charge you versus the warranty. So I would try and make the arrangements by phone first.

TreeSemdyZee 12-02-2012 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 2043541)
Z Speed's in Dayton, not Cincinnati.

Pooh. I thought they had set up in Cincy a few years ago.

gomer_110 12-02-2012 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 2043603)
Pooh. I thought they had set up in Cincy a few years ago.

Well based on their website it's Dayton.

gussyturbo z 12-02-2012 10:38 PM

No Mansfield Texas. I'm going to take it to the dealer tomorrow it's still under warrenty.

TreeSemdyZee 12-02-2012 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 2043606)
Well based on their website it's Dayton.

Yeah. I just found the PM from him last year that said they were 40-45 minutes further North than Cincy. Changes my travel plans slightly.

All the much better for the OP though. Closer.

TreeSemdyZee 12-02-2012 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by gussyturbo z (Post 2043607)
No Mansfield Texas. I'm going to take it to the dealer tomorrow it's still under warrenty.

Oh. To quote Gilda Radner, "Never mind". :icon17:

gussyturbo z 12-02-2012 10:42 PM

But why does it fail what's the issue with it?

gomer_110 12-02-2012 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gussyturbo z (Post 2043615)
But why does it fail what's the issue with it?

It's plastic. nuf said

SPOHN 12-03-2012 06:59 AM

Why take it to the dealer? What is a warranty going to do if they even decide to honor it with a SC? The smart thing is to buy the HD CSC from ZSpeed. You can offered a SC I'd like to think buying a new clutch, CSC, and installation of such wouldn't hurt the pocket. Being you have a SC and the tranny is going to be dropped put a clutch in there.

edub370 12-03-2012 09:24 AM

OP was this with a stock pressure plate or aftermarket? thats the only way i could see u having issues with warranty. aftermarket will put more force on the csc possibly causing it fail prematurely.

btw, if stock, how many miles have u gotten outte the stock clutch with this sc system?

gussyturbo z 12-03-2012 04:18 PM

I got the sc installed a couple weeks ago. Not that many miles yet.

russmanZ34 12-15-2012 12:22 AM

slave cylinder
 
my csc went out a couple of months ago and was fixed under warranty (i was told -/+$1200) and if it wasnt under warranty i would have def gone with the heavy duty one SPOHN was referring too. I was told these go out quicker because its (csc) is actually in the transmission bell housing and very labor intensive to replace and gets alot hotter.. and doesnt the stillen super charger come with a 3/36k warranty?

djtodd 12-15-2012 12:50 AM

I recently replaced mine with the HD CSC when I upgraded the clutch. The OEM one is a cheap plastic piece of junk. And yes being inside the bell housing doesn't make it any more durable.

If you are going to replace it, ABSOLUTELY go with the HD CSC. It's ~200 more than the OEM one, and you don't want to have to replace it again in the future (especially if you're paying someone to do the work)

dainedazz 12-15-2012 01:04 AM

Csc buddy. Stock ones are weak. Replace that asap

Benadrylz 12-15-2012 01:04 AM

This thread kind of worries me now as I'm approaching 10k miles. Is it alright to just upgrade to the Zspeed HD CSC with the stock clutch?

russmanZ34 12-16-2012 09:55 AM

is it ok to use the stock OEM clutch with the heavy duty csc
 
Yes the csc looks like it will work with many different clutches. Zspeed performance even asks you in a drop down box which clutch you have (or will have) so they can get you the right fitment for OEM or most aftermarket clutches .:rock::xmas3:

Benadrylz 12-16-2012 10:43 AM

Thanks. It's my DD, so I don't really want to upgrade clutch/flywheel and make traffic harder on myself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by russmanZ34 (Post 2062014)
Yes the csc looks like it will work with many different clutches. Zspeed performance even asks you in a drop down box which clutch you have (or will have) so they can get you the right fitment for OEM or most aftermarket clutches .:rock::xmas3:


R0bDC 12-17-2012 08:34 PM

My clutch just went out a few days ago :(, Now they want me to pay 1000 dollars to replace the slave Cylinder. Based on what I've read warranty should cover it so I'm fighting this unjustice.

Benadrylz 12-17-2012 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R0bDC (Post 2064516)
My clutch just went out a few days ago :(, Now they want me to pay 1000 dollars to replace the slave Cylinder. Based on what I've read warranty should cover it so I'm fighting this unjustice.

How many miles do you have on your Z?

Staples 12-17-2012 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R0bDC (Post 2064516)
My clutch just went out a few days ago :(, Now they want me to pay 1000 dollars to replace the slave Cylinder. Based on what I've read warranty should cover it so I'm fighting this unjustice.

Your clutch pedal went to the floor because your slave cylinder failed or your actual clutch has gone up already? If the clutch went up, that would be considered normal wear and tear.

If it's the slave cylinder, then that should be covered under warranty, unless you're running an aftermarket clutch or flywheel.

gussyturbo z 12-20-2012 01:20 AM

Thanks guys for all of the info I got it replaced and now time for some uprev tunning we will see what numbers the sc brings to the table.:tiphat:

cheshirecat 12-24-2012 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Staples (Post 2064821)
If it's the slave cylinder, then that should be covered under warranty, unless you're running an aftermarket clutch or flywheel.

3yr/36k mile yes. 5yr/60k mile no... unfortunately.


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