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370Z_RACER 08-30-2012 07:01 PM

mine is SMOOTH AS BUTTER

DIGItonium 08-31-2012 11:18 AM

I got the new transmission installed yesterday. It feels very different than the others. Going to let it break in.

Baer383 09-03-2012 11:41 AM

This the stuff I use in my Harley trans and it not nearly as clunkly,I will use this on my 6sp when I change it.

Red Line Oil Heavy Shockproof Gear Oil (58204) on eBay!

370Z_RACER 09-07-2012 03:41 PM

if your transmission goes, you don't know how to drive

Huck 09-07-2012 03:49 PM

If you post stupidity, you don't know how to drive.

I grind from 1st to 2nd sometimes at higher rpm. At first I thought I wasn't clutching all the way so I made a conscious effort to go all the way to the floor. Still happens. Same thing, skip shifting is sketchy. I took it to the dealership a few months ago, they "couldn't recreate the problem". I'm taking it back again soon.


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DIGItonium 09-07-2012 03:49 PM

Huck, I've come to accept the fact that the high RPM 1-2 shift is a hit or miss. With the other gears I don't completely take my foot off the accelerator pedal, and I can achieve some fast high RPM shifts. As long as I can daily drive without the 5th gear hiccup, I'll be fine. Everything else is smooth now.

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Originally Posted by 370Z_RACER (Post 1906559)
if your transmission goes, you don't know how to drive

You're kidding, right? I'm a smooth and fast shifter. Explain to me how I know how to daily drive a twin turbo 370Z. :rolleyes:

Baer383 09-07-2012 03:53 PM

I've learned from past experience that the more power you have the harder driving a stick becomes,so I imagine that a twin turbo would be hard I'll let you know after I put my SC in.:icon17:

DIGItonium 09-07-2012 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1906583)
I've learned from past experience that the more power you have the harder driving a stick becomes,so I imagine that a twin turbo would be hard I'll let you know after I put my SC in.:icon17:

Your opinion means nothing until you get back in the FI'd club. :icon17:

Seriously, though, that's not always the case. With daily driving, the car is pretty much stock since it is hardly in boost. When I'm in boost, it's typically half throttle around 3-4k RPM. That's usually when I'm getting on the freeway or trying to catch up in traffic.

The 1st transmission endured more punishment. With the 2nd transmission, I only had it for 3 months and it did not endure much punishment due to extreme hot weather over the summer.

What's interesting is the gearbox for all 3 transmissions (including the original) feel quite a bit different. The newest one feels so might tighter, and there is slightly more resistance. It's not notchy, but I can definitely feel the gears or something. What I find different is a noticeably louder whine in 2nd that I didn't hear before with the other transmissions.

So far no issues getting in any of the gears. No notchiness.

Baer383 09-07-2012 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 1906599)
Your opinion means nothing until you get back in the FI'd club. :icon17:

Seriously, though, that's not always the case. With daily driving, the car is pretty much stock since it is hardly in boost. When I'm in boost, it's typically half throttle around 3-4k RPM. That's usually when I'm getting on the freeway or trying to catch up in traffic.

The 1st transmission endured more punishment. With the 2nd transmission, I only had it for 3 months and it did not endure much punishment due to extreme hot weather over the summer.

What's interesting is the gearbox for all 3 transmissions (including the original) feel quite a bit different. The newest one feels so might tighter, and there is slightly more resistance. It's not notchy, but I can definitely feel the gears or something. What I find different is a noticeably louder whine in 2nd that I didn't hear before with the other transmissions.

So far no issues getting in any of the gears. No notchiness.


Why the hell did you have to have 3 tranmission?:shakes head:

Huck 09-07-2012 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 1906574)
Huck, I've come to accept the fact that the high RPM 1-2 shift is a hit or miss. With the other gears I don't completely take my foot off the accelerator pedal, and I can achieve some fast high RPM shifts. As long as I can daily drive without the 5th gear hiccup, I'll be fine. Everything else is smooth now.

I may have to accept that, but it just upsets me that in my civic, mustang, and miata I could power shift all day long with no problem, but in the most expensive car I've ever owned its pretty much impossible. How the he k are you supposed to get good times on the 1/4 mile if you have to baby the stick??



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Davey 09-07-2012 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Huck (Post 1906638)
I may have to accept that, but it just upsets me that in my civic, mustang, and miata I could power shift all day long with no problem, but in the most expensive car I've ever owned its pretty much impossible. How the he k are you supposed to get good times on the 1/4 mile if you have to baby the stick??



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Plenty of people are having issues with the GT500, Boss 302, Mustang GT, Camaro, Corvette, etc. power shifting it and/or just shifting it fast. I would say to some degree it's that these manufacturers have little experience with building a transmission that shifts reliably at 6,000+ RPM, and to some degree, it's cheap **** that seems to work OK for the test drive and/or the first 10,000 miles.

DIGItonium 09-08-2012 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1906619)
Why the hell did you have to have 3 tranmission?:shakes head:

The first one is stock. I'm on my 2nd.

I'm sure it is known the Z transmission does not like super fast shifts. I went through the same ordeal with the '03 350Z.

luigi90210 09-12-2012 11:23 AM

I rarely grind from 1st to 2nd and that was because of human error(only happened twice)

I don't drive it to hard though and when I do, I don't have any problems unless I'm being stupid

IDZRVIT 09-12-2012 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey (Post 1906805)
Plenty of people are having issues with the GT500, Boss 302, Mustang GT, Camaro, Corvette, etc. power shifting it and/or just shifting it fast. I would say to some degree it's that these manufacturers have little experience with building a transmission that shifts reliably at 6,000+ RPM, and to some degree, it's cheap **** that seems to work OK for the test drive and/or the first 10,000 miles.

You're joking, right?:ugh2: I think however, that plenty of people are having issues with how to drive a manual. Just read the posts. They're everywhere. See my vette? It has the original B-W ST-10, if you know what that is, and I shift hard all the time with it. 90000+ miles and it's never been apart. So don't come in here and say that the American auto makers don't know how to spec a tranny. My Z roadster with the 6 speed, I have no problems shifting in any gear at 7500 rpm. So, did I get the only car that has a good manual? I doubt that. A guy goes through three trannys and claims there are issues with the it? Not likely. It's abuse or lack of shifting skills.

DIGItonium 09-12-2012 10:33 PM

Um. No? What's there to prove that I can't drive a manual? It's a daily driven vehicle. It's not rocket science for the past 10 years of driving a manual. How the heck can I screw up 5th? It's not even a gear to drive hard in.

The first transmission failed after the clutch disk fused to the flywheel. Part of that problem was due to a defect in the aftermarket clutch disk that made it difficult to get in and out of gear. After fixing the flywheel and getting a new disk, 3rd gear (last gear it was stuck on) started to grind whenever RPMs exceeded 3k. The grinding got progressively worse, so I ended up getting a new transmission.

I did a few tests, and the car drove great. Then I dealt with record heat all summer, so I didn't get to drive the car as hard. Even if I wanted to drive it hard it's as easy as flooring it while in gear. What's so hard about that? After a month I notice difficulty getting into 5th. It took more effort than usual to get it in gear. All the other gears were buttery smooth. So I ignored it for 2 more months as it progressively got worse. Replacing the fluids with Redline didn't help either. My tech took it for a test drive and had issues getting into 5th as he was exiting the freeway and suggested the replacement.

So the one I have now is about 2 weeks old, and it's doing very well.

This thread is to share experiences with failed transmissions, not about who can or can't drive a manual. If some of you don't have anything valuable to contribute, then :gtfo2:


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