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radarlove 02-28-2014 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by H2O_Doc (Post 2712900)
That's what I do, by moving the decimal point.

My Z makes 3165 hp. Not bad for NA. It runs a 1.27 sec quarter mile (I move that decimal point too, just the other way).

Now that's funny!!!

RICAN 02-28-2014 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2712915)
The cars pulls alot harder. I'll say that much.

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How much did they charge u for the tune?

///PureSwank 02-28-2014 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RICAN (Post 2713189)
How much did they charge u for the tune?

Uprev license 300 tuning 400

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Gibby1113 02-28-2014 01:49 PM

Well then nvm I clearly did not read what Z1 posted w/ that 400hp package :rofl2:

synolimit 02-28-2014 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2713236)
Uprev license 300 tuning 400

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Lol dear lord, someone made some money. The license isn't even half that.

FPenvy 02-28-2014 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2713526)
Lol dear lord, someone made some money. The license isn't even half that.

:ban:

also the license is $300.

it's $600 for a license and your own personal cable/software.

///PureSwank 02-28-2014 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2713526)
Lol dear lord, someone made some money. The license isn't even half that.

Ban this troll. Thank me later mods.

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synolimit 02-28-2014 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2713542)
:ban:

also the license is $300.

it's $600 for a license and your own personal cable/software.

well my tuner is just giving free licenses away. funny how that works. $450 is the total. possibly $500 if youre not a regular. least it isnt the aussie guy that paid over $1600 for his.

SPOHN 02-28-2014 04:16 PM

The only way to break 340 is E85 or 96 and higher octane.

synolimit 02-28-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2713618)
The only way to break 340 is E85 or 96 and higher octane.

challenge accepted. :tup:

///PureSwank 02-28-2014 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2713610)
well my tuner is just giving free licenses away. funny how that works. $450 is the total. possibly $500 if youre not a regular. least it isnt the aussie guy that paid over $1600 for his.

Your tuner is a special circumstance. I wonder why he is doing that....

///PureSwank 02-28-2014 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2713618)
The only way to break 340 is E85 or 96 and higher octane.

Give me a link to a 370z E85 Setup.

SPOHN 02-28-2014 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2713629)
Give me a link to a 370z E85 Setup.

Don't have one. Z1's shop car runs E85 on 1000cc injectors and put down 249whp

FPenvy 02-28-2014 04:24 PM

Highest hp 370z NA??
 
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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2713610)
well my tuner is just giving free licenses away. funny how that works. $450 is the total. possibly $500 if youre not a regular. least it isnt the aussie guy that paid over $1600 for his.

Bro the license is $300 for them too. The 450 is 300 license and 150 for the tune.

Most places charge 500-600 for a time because of a $300 license fee then dyno time and labor.

You're an idiot and this place is much better when you were banned lol

FPenvy 02-28-2014 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2713625)
Your tuner is a special circumstance. I wonder why he is doing that....

See above post.

synolimit 02-28-2014 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2713625)
Your tuner is a special circumstance. I wonder why he is doing that....

idk. been going to him and working with him since 09 when he was doing my subis. he charged $400 for those, $350 to me after a year or so of returning. then i started doing my own. now that im back because i cant tune unless i buy all the software because its not free like Rom Raider in the subi world, my price is $450. he told me the credits you need to buy are $180 from uprev. my cost is only $150 though. the other $300 is for his pocket. that or maybe he's still getting charged $180 from uprev but cutting his price down for me.

RICAN 02-28-2014 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2713637)
Don't have one. Z1's shop car runs E85 on 1000cc injectors and put down 249whp

you mean 349whp bro?

synolimit 02-28-2014 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2713639)
Bro the license is $300 for them too. The 450 is 300 license and 150 for the tune.

Most places charge 500-600 for a time because of a $300 license fee then dyno time and labor.

You're an idiot and this place is much better when you were banned lol

i dont believe it. do you have proof? why would he charge every car with open source tuning like subis and evos $400 a tune but only make $150 for G's, Z's and GTR's? he'd be insane to price cut like that.

FPenvy 02-28-2014 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2713660)
i dont believe it. do you have proof? why would he charge every car with open source tuning like subis and evos $400 a tune but only make $150 for G's, Z's and GTR's? he'd be insane to price cut like that.

I'm sure if they are one of uprevs dealers then they may get a discount on the license.

Why do you think pretty much every tuner charges between 500 and 600 for a tune. Typically it breaks down as $300 for the license, $100-150 for dyno time and 100-150 for tuner labor time.

synolimit 02-28-2014 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2713673)
I'm sure if they are one of uprevs dealers then they may get a discount on the license.

Why do you think pretty much every tuner charges between 500 and 600 for a tune. Typically it breaks down as $300 for the license, $100-150 for dyno time and 100-150 for tuner labor time.

they are.

damn dude so we found out why now. thanks for all the rude comments for no reason when i was actually right on what i pay and what they charge.

///PureSwank 02-28-2014 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2713687)
they are.

damn dude so we found out why now. thanks for all the rude comments for no reason when i was actually right on what i pay and what they charge.

If you re-track you actually made a comment about how much I spent. When in reality not every Shop is an Uprev dealer. So the norm here on average is most pay 300 for a license. How is he at fault?

synolimit 02-28-2014 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2713694)
If you re-track you actually made a comment about how much I spent. When in reality not every Shop is an Uprev dealer. So the norm here on average is most pay 300 for a license. How is he at fault?

I didn't know there was a difference. Why wouldn't they all be the same? If you have a cable and you tune, you should all be the same. But whatever, I'm at fault for not knowing that. At least I didn't resort to being rude, calling ban and its better without him comments.

Mike 02-28-2014 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2713111)
yea i've noticed lol

also when mike said his 342 dropped to 320 when on a different dyno that wasnt Z1's dyno kinda says a bit towards that. dont get me wrong i love their products and amazing customer service. just a big number is all.

That was not on a different dyno. It was on the same dyno during a dyno day at Znationals.

Mike 02-28-2014 08:18 PM

btw, as for labor for a tune, it should be pretty high. I know John spent well over 6 hours of dyno time tuning mine.

2sl0w 02-28-2014 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 2712789)
I dyno'd 342 at Z1's dyno when I got my tune. At Znationals, it was in the 320s during the dyno competition on a hot day with heavier wheels, but still was the highest NA Z there, by a good margin that day.

I think they were using 4th gear at the dyno competition to save the dyno brake. Hence the lower numbers.

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synolimit 02-28-2014 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2713111)
yea i've noticed lol

also when mike said his 342 dropped to 320 when on a different dyno that wasnt Z1's dyno kinda says a bit towards that. dont get me wrong i love their products and amazing customer service. just a big number is all.

Z1 does std correction. 66 degrees vs 77 in sae I believe. It will always show higher. Sae is industry standard. Take off 4% is what you need to do. That's why the motor shows 332 stock vs low to mid 270's at the wheel on dyno jets in sae which is the correct numbers and 18% drive train loss.

2sl0w 02-28-2014 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2713107)
Nobody else got numbers that high with their headers. Z1 makes good stuff, but they seem to have a very "marketing-friendly" dyno.

Mike has and other cars have gotten within the range as well. It is not just the headers in that package that make more power... The modified plenum is crucial.

Z1 used their intake (which is similar to a gen 3) and a tomei single exhaust + test pipes. If you have gen 3 or equivalent with a High flow exhaust the 400hp package works as advertised.

With just the headers and a tune from someone other than z1 you are right... cars haven't been hitting 340+. But they don't have the manifold or a Jon Parham tune LoL.

And as far as the accuracy of z1's dyno ... I doubt there is a dyno out there that has run more 370z's. They have a wide range of results and would not market their kit at 400 crank HP if they weren't ready to stand behind it.


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synolimit 02-28-2014 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 2sl0w (Post 2714034)
Mike has and other cars have gotten within the range as well. It is not just the headers in that package that make more power... The modified plenum is crucial.

Z1 used their intake (which is similar to a gen 3) and a tomei single exhaust + test pipes. If you have gen 3 or equivalent with a High flow exhaust the 400hp package works as advertised.

With just the headers and a tune from someone other than z1 you are right... cars haven't been hitting 340+. But they don't have the manifold or a Jon Parham tune LoL.

And as far as the accuracy of z1's dyno ... I doubt there is a dyno out there that has run more 370z's. They have a wide range of results and would not market their kit at 400 crank HP if they weren't ready to stand behind it.


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Do you have a dyno in SAE from them? Because you can't stand behind STD. I 100% believe the dyno is accurate. I love dynojets!! But STD is just not the factor to use.

synolimit 02-28-2014 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 2sl0w (Post 2714027)
I think they were using 4th gear at the dyno competition to save the dyno brake. Hence the lower numbers.

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I don't think I've ever seen a Z done in 5th. To many people say the car will max out untuned or something or they didn't want the rollers going that fast. It should be 5th though and you are correct it will read higher. I think most do 4th though so at least the majority can compare numbers.

SPOHN 03-01-2014 06:32 AM

Z1 always uses 5th always besides when they host a dyno day. The dyno takes a lot of abuse and gets hot. While SAE might be true numbers, STD numbers are used when comparing numbers between cars.

I really careless in the end. As long as my car is not running lean, especially on the high end I'm good. My numbers are lap times and that always can get lower.

2sl0w 03-02-2014 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2714121)
Do you have a dyno in SAE from them? Because you can't stand behind STD. I 100% believe the dyno is accurate. I love dynojets!! But STD is just not the factor to use.

I'll ask Jon. They just hit 338 again with the package. #checkoutthez1motorsportsyoutubechannel

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Megan370z 03-02-2014 02:34 PM

I like to mention about how no dyno read the same ... :stirthepot:

What I would be very curious to see is a true stock baseline and those modification :tup:

but I think from what I remember stock 370z get about 270-275whp on his dyno. which sound about right at 65whp over stock...

it could be better though :stirthepot: hehe

Masterbeatty 03-02-2014 05:55 PM

Is there anyone with a running stroked 370z or g37. I've seen boosted and stroked but not just stroked. I would think they would have the highest hp NA. But it's damn expensive for a stroker kit.

1slow370 03-02-2014 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Masterbeatty (Post 2716275)
Is there anyone with a running stroked 370z or g37. I've seen boosted and stroked but not just stroked. I would think they would have the highest hp NA. But it's damn expensive for a stroker kit.

which is probably why they are all boosted, if you are going to spend that much on a motor you'd want to build it for low compression and boost it.

Masterbeatty 03-03-2014 08:39 AM

That title of, "The most powerfull N/A 370Z" means alot to some people, especially the tuner/ engine builder. I think that is more bragging rights than a boosted Z. What Shamu is doing with his VQ, i would do in a heat beat if mine wasnt a DD. Custom stroked, high compression, and HR heads:excited:

H2O_Doc 03-03-2014 09:32 AM

There are those that are truly interested in hp or torque, but what most (maybe average) people are probably interested in is acceleration, which hp is sort of an index of (notable exception, cement mixer trucks). Having said that, and as others have noted, there are ways at getting at acceleration other than hp. Of course, we have a 1/4 mile thread for indexing that.

It's interesting to look across the Zs here and to look at Zs versus other vehicles and see how power and other performance variables are (or are not) correlated. My opinion is that no other vehicle can touch the Z on a per dollar basis when you use the Charisma Corrected Performance Index (CCPI). Roughly speaking CCPI ((acceleration x top speed) ^ lateral G) x Charisma Coefficient)).

For some cars, you have to modify the Charisma Coefficient and correct for driver douchebaggery; e.g. a Viper scores very high on looks, but it's Charisma Coefficient is brought way down by the douchosity of (some) Dodge drivers.

synolimit 03-03-2014 11:34 AM

Acceleration...http://www.the370z.com/track-autocro...yone-post.html


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